Curse

Phoenix Tears · Dec 30, 2007, 05:18 PM // 17:18

Don't you think too, that these Elite Tomes cost way too much ingame ?

While normal ones cost like in an average 500g... what is quite a really good price to prefer getting normal Skills via Tomes insteads to buy them with 1 Platin and 1 Skill Point ...

But Elite Tomes against that overdrive the price absolutely.. there the prices go up easily to over 10 Platin and more for certain times...while others are at like 5 Platin in regard of the Profession ...what is imo still a bit too much for them ...

Compare that with the effort of Capping Elite Skills, what costs still only 1 Platin and 1 Skill point + the effiort of hunting down the boss you want ...

I'm really at the opinion, that hunting down a boss is no reason to let shoot up the prices of Elite Tomes far over the 10 Platin mark...
Its really not so, that it takes hours to hunt certain bosses...

So i want to know, whats about your opinion about the prices of elite tomes... do you fidn them ok ? or do you agree with me. that certain ones are heavily overpriced against other elite tomes and especially against all the normal tomes.. which mostly cost in average only a tenth of what the elites get sold for...

What do you think about, when anet would implement now a Tome Seller NPC with FIXED prices for elites at for example 2 Platin and some little amount of pergament paper material..say 25 pergaments

then would have anet a new gold sink, because this would draw out money out of the game and not only change the money from account to account ..what is no money sink at all!!! + the rare material of pergament paper would finally also receive ingame a sense and reason for existence

its really no reason, to let these tomes cost soo much money, especially when every player can unlock the wanted skils first through Balthazar Points in PvP and has not to cap the Skill at all first

I'm for a Tome Seller NPC with fixed prices and ac usage for pergament paper ?

What do you think ?

Malice Black · Dec 30, 2007, 05:21 PM // 17:21

No.

No one forces you to buy them, you could actually go cap the skill you know..

Vinraith · Dec 30, 2007, 05:21 PM // 17:21

The market's set the price, and I for one think it's pretty reasonable.

/notsigned

Zeek Aran · Dec 30, 2007, 05:22 PM // 17:22

People buy tomes for 5-12k. It's their choice. Supply and demand.

garethporlest18 · Dec 30, 2007, 05:24 PM // 17:24

Since I sell them more than buy them I do not agree with your sentiments.

Also this is the cost of laziness and there are A LOT of lazy people around this game.

Kahlindra · Dec 30, 2007, 05:24 PM // 17:24

You don't have to buy elite tomes, though. As you've said, there might be less effort in going out and finding the elites yourself. It's purely for convenience, and as such, those who find them can charge whatever people will pay to be lazier.

A tome seller makes every unlocked elite available to your characters the second you hit a market town. That's going to make the rest of the game highly boring. Sure, some people like to get max armour at level 4, so I'm sure some people like to get all their elites at the beginning... but that doesn't mean it would be useful, or at all necessary, on the whole.

Tomes are a luxury good, market forces will prevail. Not a problem with me.

Squishy ftw · Dec 30, 2007, 05:25 PM // 17:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix Tears

I'm really at the opinion, that hunting down a boss is no reason to let shoot up the prices of Elite Tomes far over the 10 Platin mark...
Its really not so, that it takes hours to hunt certain bosses...

Then use a cap sig if you don't want to spend 10k+ on an elite tome..

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix Tears

What do you think ?

I think that it's just fine as it is now. It's rather easy, you want an elite skill the easy/lazy way ? pay for it.

If you don't want to pay 10k+ for it.. go get it yourself..

tryptamine_xxp · Dec 30, 2007, 05:25 PM // 17:25

id rather give 10k instead of running to get feast of corruption from that damn wurm!!! ( but i got it that way anyway

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Sub Frost · Dec 30, 2007, 05:32 PM // 17:32

Never paid for one, never will, paying 10k for something i can get for 1k doesn't make much sense for me.

MagmaRed · Dec 30, 2007, 05:45 PM // 17:45

Tomes (normal and elite) allow you to get a skill WAY before you normally could. I have a friend who made a new Ranger in Tyria, and had Burning Arrow at level 4, just after getting to Post-searing. Making an NPC to sell tomes is a BIG mistake. Since the tomes only drop in Hard Mode, this would allow people who do not have access to HM to buy tomes. Big deal, they can buy them from players already? That is a player market, and you want to disrupt that. The economy is already bad for selling things, so why make it worse?

Cost is not too bad. If you want a skill/elite that you can't reach yet, the tomes let you get it if you have it unlocked. Skill capping title is made easier with it, but not cheaper. It also allows people with no skill points to pick up some skills.

Reason why some classes have more expensive tomes is due to ease and rarity. Monk creatures in the game are not real common. Warriors, however, are everywhere. Also, Monks are not as easy to kill solo, and in large numbers to get tomes from. This results in a higher price for Monk tomes in general. Raptors are farmed a lot in GW:EN, which means Sin tomes are common drops. Well, guess what, Sin Tomes are dirt cheap.

I don't see a problem with the pricing on these things, and I do see a problem with your 'fixes'.

Sha Noran · Dec 30, 2007, 05:46 PM // 17:46

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitalism

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Drop of Fear · Dec 30, 2007, 05:47 PM // 17:47

the price is what ppl are willing to pay for an item...

MoriaOrc · Dec 30, 2007, 05:47 PM // 17:47

Here's how you should think of it:

Say you have a new-ish character (or maybe you just did a different campaign). You want that elite skill from the end of the chapter, but your still pretty much at the beginning. Maybe you want of Hundred Blades for your "Kickass"* new warrior build in proph, or Jagged Bones for your necro who's new in Nightfall, or something like that.

In these cases, the 5-10k you're spending lets you get the skill now, instead of beating almost the entire campaign before you get the skill you want. That's the real value of elite tomes, and that's why they cost so much.

Faer · Dec 30, 2007, 05:51 PM // 17:51

10k+? lolwut? If you are paying more than 7k for any tome, you are ripping yourself off.

Elite Tomes are a huge convenience, sort of like fast food or Internet access. You sometimes pay dumb prices for conveniences. Get used to it.

Phoenix Tears · Dec 30, 2007, 06:04 PM // 18:04

and when the tome seller gets tiered ?

i mean.. as long you haven't played through the game, the npc will sell only normal tomes ...and when u've played through the game. then the NPC will also sell elite tomes

@faer.. ive very often seen people ingame selling elite tomes for like 10P ..for example elite ele tomes or elite monk tomes..

also at the new official guild wars acution house internet site (www.gwah.de) made by the people of the german elite gw forum guildwars.info you can see there at the part for tomes that elite tomes sell there easily for 5 Platin to 10 Platin and more

Zeek Aran · Dec 30, 2007, 06:30 PM // 18:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Faer

10k+? lolwut? If you are paying more than 7k for any tome, you are ripping yourself off.

I sell Rt and Mo tomes for 12k. I'll gladly help someone willingly rip themselves off. =3

Shakti · Dec 30, 2007, 06:40 PM // 18:40

As Faer said, tomes are a convenience not necessity. You have the option of 1k+skill point+cap it. They are a convenience if you want a later elite before that char has gotten to the boss in question, or you just don't want the hassle. If 5-12kish is too expensive, do it the hard(er) way or wait. *shrug* I see no reason to add a tome trader.

Qwertyfied · Dec 30, 2007, 06:41 PM // 18:41

I never had, and probably never will get one myself. But i do see their price as justified, since one's character may want an elite at the end of a certain campaign, yet you can't be bothered to go through the whole storyline again. Hence you buy a tome, I don't see 10k as too much for that.

jon0592 · Dec 30, 2007, 06:46 PM // 18:46

It's not always the case that you can go simply cap the skill. What if it were say Healer's Covenant (If I'm wrong then insert another late-game skill) and you want that elite for your monk?

Shakti · Dec 30, 2007, 06:48 PM // 18:48

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Originally Posted by jon0592

It's not always the case that you can go simply cap the skill. What if it were say Healer's Covenant (If I'm wrong then insert another late-game skill) and you want that elite for your monk?

Not sure where you're going here....do you mean an elite that's further in a campaign than the char...? That falls under the "wait" catagory.