Curse

Cathode_Reborn · Dec 30, 2007, 09:33 PM // 21:33

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Originally Posted by kobey

Not a problem?

Imagine this scenario:

Create character >> Pay some money to ferry guy >> Zone to Lugardis Conservatory >> Pay for HFF >> Days later, Legendary Survivor

Fair?

With or without the glitch, you can get a new char to lvl10, get ran to Gunnar's Hold, and do the boxing lair, which is much faster. Legendary Survivor has always been one of those brain-dead grind titles that people get just to add to their KoaBD, since it's far from anything impressive.

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Originally Posted by KANE OG

I've been reporting people who admit that their "run" is the exploit, screen-shotting the whole conversation.

Hope everyone else is doing the same.

KANE

Have fun spending the whole day reporting then......I really don't think anet is gonna bother when they get 100+ reports and counting.

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Originally Posted by Zeek Aran

I don't see why they didn't do an emergency 'remove all ambassadors temporarily' thing. I don't see how they can let this go on this long without doing anything.

Maybe they secretly support it and disguised it as a "bug"

After making multiple pve chars, do you think people wanna spend lots of time getting through each chapter, yet again? I think not. Just about everyone knows about this now and is taking advantage...Less time doing the missions you've already done over and over, more time getting a quick lvl20 decked out in 15k so you could move onto funner things.

When people were duping Armbraces, it was hurt the economy. The only thing being hurt this time around are people's feelings......the one's get that get bothered when they see all the lvl3's running around in high end areas. They're not affecting me in anyway so, why should i care?

wu is me · Dec 30, 2007, 09:47 PM // 21:47

haha, work hard on gw2 Anet, i really can't see anything adverse about this "bug" =P

Vinraith · Dec 30, 2007, 09:50 PM // 21:50

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Originally Posted by IlikeGW

This sounds great actually... I find it odd you're expected to play the campaign through more than once in the first place to go do things like get armor on another character. The "gated" stuff was a total step backwards in enjoyment.

Right, because why would anyone want to actually play the game with a second character.

Oh, wait...

DaCatInDaHat · Dec 30, 2007, 09:53 PM // 21:53

stop whining about how other people are taking advantage of this and DO something. glitches are a natural part of video games, they happen. you can take advantage of it just as much as anyone else can. personally, i do not like the way some people are taking advantage of it, but im not going to go crying to mommy about it....

A11Eur0 · Dec 30, 2007, 10:46 PM // 22:46

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Originally Posted by Vinraith

Right, because why would anyone want to actually play the game with a second character.

Oh, wait...

some wouldn't want to go through every hoop just to enjoy a second character. PvP characters can't have special armor, weapon skins, etc. So, one makes a PvE character to fill a gap in their gameplay experience. It's next to impossible to get groups for missions/primary quests and most of the time henchies don't fit the bill...heroes are only available in Nightfall until you get to GWEN. Sure, now you can get to GWEN at level 10 and get level 20 heroes...but that's just kinda stupid.

I'd love to have the CHOICE to get a low level character to Kodash for vabbian armor, only after beating the game at least once on another char. I'd prefer to have a choice in that matter...and I had that choice in Prophecies. Factions removed that choice...and it kills the gameplay experience. Forcing a player to take every single character through every mission just to get something they want later in the game is frankly moronic. Who does it affect? Noone. Does it make your gameplay experience any different if I have my level 5 Ele in Bone Palace? No. "zomg I had to fight my way here, why can you be here from this exploit?" Well, you could use the exploit as well.

MercenaryKnight · Dec 30, 2007, 10:51 PM // 22:51

They didn't ban anyone the first time they "fixed this". They didn't ban anyone who brought items to presear by actually modding the texmod to let them use the button. It isn't like duping where everyone would know getting free items= destroy economy.

Worst that could happen is maybe they find a way to take the towns off your char? I don't think they'd even bother with a temp ban. In my opinion if they were going to ban people they'd of been banned when they "fixed" the exploit.

genofreek · Dec 30, 2007, 11:00 PM // 23:00

Holy crap, this has EXPLODED. It was bad enough earlier today, but I can't go through a single outpost except maybe Maguuma Stade without seeing ads for ferries.

Vinraith · Dec 30, 2007, 11:07 PM // 23:07

It hurts everyone when it's possible to bypass the game and cut straight to the rewards. There's not much point in playing anymore when that's the case. Given how widespread this has become it's hard to see how the damage to the game isn't rapidly becoming irreperable. Rollback time, it seems to me.

maraxusofk · Dec 30, 2007, 11:25 PM // 23:25

w/e anyone who wants the trick used it already. the pre searing item glitch didnt get anyone banned, whereas the duping did. all i say is ban those who profit from the glitch and leave those who do it for fun alone. absuing a glitch for profit is NOT ok imo.

Terraban · Dec 30, 2007, 11:28 PM // 23:28

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Originally Posted by Vinraith

It hurts everyone when it's possible to bypass the game and cut straight to the rewards. There's not much point in playing anymore when that's the case. Given how widespread this has become it's hard to see how the damage to the game isn't rapidly becoming irreperable. Rollback time, it seems to me.

Do you play with other people to get through the game?

If 99% of the population blazes through the game and gets their armor and quits playing, will that somehow stop you from playing through the game to get your armor?

Will them people skipping through the game, that would be playing through with heroes and hench somehow effect your game?

I could see if the game required you to play with other people to get through...if everyone skips through then you have nobody to play with. However, since almost everyone plays through with H+H or friends, then this is rather irrelevant. Skipping straight to the rewards? Of what? Better looking armor? Oh no. They skip straight to the "rewards" then buy their armor, then what are they going to do?

People ruining the game for themselves really doesn't have any impact on anyone else. They lose the "fun" of playing through the nooby mid-level places. The exploit doesn't damage GW itself, anyone can still have just as much fun if people use the exploit or not. The exploit however can negatively impact the users gaming experience, but if they want to do that, who cares? It isn't like they get some huge advantage over you.

Edit: And has anyone tried this with a PvP character? Now that would be funny.

gone · Dec 30, 2007, 11:44 PM // 23:44

LoL yea, there is NO advantage at all in being able to get to an endgame area with a re-rollable low level char...I mean, we all delete our lv 20's after we beat a campaign, just so we can re-collect endgame rewards, then purge(Factions/NF/Gwen).

I bet with a 'simple' system, you could collect a lot of books, amulets..etc.etc...in a very short time.

make-ferry-beat-purge.
rinse-repeat

Terraban · Dec 30, 2007, 11:46 PM // 23:46

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Originally Posted by flubber

LoL yea, there is NO advantage at all in being able to get to an endgame area with a re-rollable low level char...I mean, we all delete our lv 20's after we beat a campaign, just so we can re-collect endgame rewards, then purge(Factions/NF/Gwen).

I bet with a system, you could collect a lot of books, amulets..etc.etc...in a very short time.

make-ferry-beat-purge.
rinse-repeat

And that gets you? A load of green items that are no better than what most people already use. Hell, they are hardly better than collector items. No advantage.

gone · Dec 30, 2007, 11:47 PM // 23:47

rotflmao.

NO it gets me GOLD. FAST GOLD.

he who has the gold, has the advantage.

arcanemacabre · Dec 30, 2007, 11:50 PM // 23:50

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Originally Posted by Terraban

People ruining the game for themselves really doesn't have any impact on anyone else.

Well, to be fair, this bug can have some negative impacts on the community. Some notable ones include cheapened end-game items (since people could create characters, zone to Imperial Sanctum/Abaddon's Gate and get run through mission, repeat), cheapened black moa minis (same thing, bit more complicated, but most of the time spent running everywhere is severely cut), and the more obvious killing of running services (not that it's a huge deal, but still).

Though honestly, if this was made to be a feature instead of a bug, the first two flaws could be redesigned to compensate, and the third problem is something I think many of us could live with.

Terraban · Dec 30, 2007, 11:51 PM // 23:51

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Originally Posted by flubber

rotflmao.

NO it gets me GOLD. FAST GOLD.

he who has the gold, has the advantage.

What advantage do you have with gold? Can get the drunkard title faster? Oh noez my game is totally ruined. Sweet tooth title? Hell I may as well just quit playing, it is ruining my life that you got the sweet tooth title

But, you only get GOLD FAST GOLD if people buy the amulets. Which, the supply will skyrocket, and people selling them, the demand will go down. So you will just be left with a lot of amulets, which you will trade for a lot of greens, which are nothing special. Congratulations and welcome to Skill > Time/Gold

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Originally Posted by arcanemacabre

Well, to be fair, this bug can have some negative impacts on the community. Some notable ones include cheapened end-game items (since people could create characters, zone to Imperial Sanctum/Abaddon's Gate and get run through mission, repeat), cheapened black moa minis (same thing, bit more complicated, but most of the time spent running everywhere is severely cut), and the more obvious killing of running services (not that it's a huge deal, but still).

Though honestly, if this was made to be a feature instead of a bug, the first two flaws could be redesigned to compensate, and the third problem is something I think many of us could live with.

Yeah...the end-game thing could be viewed as negative, but its impact is still very small. As far as I know, end-game weapons are not in high demand as is. They are easy to obtain either way. So this just makes something easy to obtain easier to obtain.

gone · Dec 30, 2007, 11:54 PM // 23:54

really rotflamo.

my paypal account likes fast gold. see how that works?

lulz @ ingame advantages...that isn't where this is going.

Terraban · Dec 30, 2007, 11:57 PM // 23:57

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Originally Posted by flubber

really rotflamo.

my paypal account likes fast gold. see how that works?

lulz @ ingame advantages...that isn't where this is going.

Gold sellers will not be selling amulets to fund their gold selling sites. What is it? 1 million gold for 20 bucks? Thats what? 100 Amulets for 20 bucks? 100 trips through the game, then managing to sell 100 Amulets to people for 10k each? Come on.

arcanemacabre · Dec 31, 2007, 12:00 AM // 00:00

Yeah, gold-sellers don't do in-game trades other than un-ID golds. I seriously doubt they would bother with amulets/books, especially if anyone can do this and the prices of them decline to that of orange dye.

gone · Dec 31, 2007, 12:01 AM // 00:01

the 'fastness' of this possible farm terribly outweighs the 'come on'

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not all gold sellers are in sweat shops, in a 3rd world country. some are 'private'

arcanemacabre · Dec 31, 2007, 12:06 AM // 00:06

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Originally Posted by flubber

not all gold sellers are in sweat shops, in a 3rd world country. some are 'private'

And those that are "private" know of much faster ways of getting gold. This is a waste of time for anyone other than those who just want the greens, plain and simple.