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lacasner · Mar 21, 2007, 01:00 AM // 01:00

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So should i continue working on my drunkard/sweet tooth title? Or any other title? Why get so attached to chars that are going to go up on some guild hall wall that nobody will look at or care about?

I know I won't

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3 million players is a mistake?

Look at the active players buddy, the prophecy campaign days are over.

Inde · Mar 21, 2007, 01:00 AM // 01:00

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Originally Posted by Sub Frost

First just like to thank for the well organized 1st Post, and the the constant reply's of Gaile regarding some questions, nicely done

Thanks Sub Frost! The dev quotes will of course in the next day or 2 be available in our Game & Dev Tracker forum as well.

Teddi · Mar 21, 2007, 01:00 AM // 01:00

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Originally Posted by Teelana Singh

I do not understand why people are complaining about something that they haven't even played. It just makes no sense. People jump to conclusions way too early. We don't know how they are going to level or how quickly.

Exactly.
They are judging their opinions on a page of text. it is 1 year away - things can change. This always happens with big announcements. Calm down. Take a breather. Then just wait.
And see, if maybe, it will turn out alright.

Ouchie · Mar 21, 2007, 01:00 AM // 01:00

I need an official what will be transferred through hall of monuments ---- titles ---items ---will I be known as a desendant of someone who was a KoaBD--- can i keep my name ----is it reserved for me ----can i create the same look ----will there be the human form ~ lets face it my beloved ranger is NOT mating with a char to make a weird family tree

lucifer_uk · Mar 21, 2007, 01:01 AM // 01:01

I wonder how many sites are going to be offering power leveling services for GW2???

I also wonder how many people are gonna pay for it too!!

Cataclysm · Mar 21, 2007, 01:01 AM // 01:01

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Originally Posted by Relambrien

Well, from the looks of it I won't like GW2 as much as I liked the original Guild Wars...but we'll see. I'm willing to give it a try, since I trust Anet, and we'll see where it goes from there.

I would assume that since ArenaNet spoke about infinite levels, that the level number wouldn't increase your abilities after a certain point, but just be a measure of how much experience you have. For instance, say after level 20, no more power ups, but your "level" still increases to show you have more experience.

I'm curious about this Hall of Monuments...

I hope so too

And WTF does UAX mean?

lacasner · Mar 21, 2007, 01:02 AM // 01:02

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They are judging their opinions on a page of text. it is 1 year away - things can change. This always happens with big announcements. Calm down. Take a breather. Then just wait.
And see, if maybe, it will turn out alright.

I know in fact the game will be excellent and breathtaking, but without bringing my other characters over, whats the point of even starting again? So they can simple be deleted because of gw3?

FireFox · Mar 21, 2007, 01:02 AM // 01:02

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Originally Posted by Cataclysm

I hope so too

And WTF does UAX mean?

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/UAX

mqstout · Mar 21, 2007, 01:02 AM // 01:02

GW2: 180 degree turn from everything that made Guild Wars a great game, with extra rotten cheese on top.

I'm kind of glad I haven't felt like finishing Nightfall lately because of the insanely un-fun end game stuff in it. I'm already well on my way to stepping away from the franchise that is now a bigger smoldering pile of rubble than Ascalon.

I'm still waiting -- praying -- for the announcement that it's a giant, convoluted April Fool's joke. ArenaNet has completely turned away from the masses of Guild Wars players with this. They listened to the extremely loud, misguided, minority on various forums. They've already been discovered the problems with this by the difficulty of the game being well beyond that which most players can tolerate for enjoyment, and are fixing that with Hard Mode and a general non-hard-mode nerf.

We play Guild Wars for a reason. Lack of griefing (by instances); achievable-by-casual-play level cap, skill-over-time-spent (for most things), not needing to devote and schedule one's life to it (party limits reasonably small, and easily filled with heroes/henchmen), nice action-oriented gameplay without the hunter-gatherer resource gathering/crafting crap, versatility of characters and ease of having many of themto fit different moods and play styles depending on the day, etc. No stupid jumping/swimming nonsense... I'm glad I'm not the only one sick to my stomach reading this.

And all this after the wonderful announcement of Fun Mode/Hard Mode and GW:EN being an expansion instead of a campaign...

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Originally Posted by sakura75

One advice. Get rid of titles, please. I prefer playing with people who knows me by name instead of by rank. Some rankless players are more fun to play with than some ranked players.

Too late. A.net has already shown they believe people to love titles and that they add to a game. Expect GWEN, if not GW2, to be all like title point grinding.

bamm bamm bamm · Mar 21, 2007, 01:02 AM // 01:02

From what I can gather, as well as increasing the level cap, it seems they are making the character level almost irrelevant to actual effectiveness. If I had to guess, I would say that with Guild Wars they set out to make a game that fixed all the things they saw as wrong with the games of the time, but in doing so they feel they went too far in the other direction. They made a game that became almost clinical. It would seem that they want GW2 to sit somewhere in the middle. Keep the skill>grind/time axiom, but inject some depth that is intrinsic of other mmorpgs. Increase level cap, but reduce its overall importance. Keep the mechanism that feeds those with a psychological need for repetition (GW has never been able to adequately feed them) but make the entire system superficial. I hope they get it right. If they pull it off it could be huge.

I'm fascinated how people can so easily lose perspective to the point of "feeling sick" over this information. Over a subject we still know absolutely nothing about. Once we know the context and if the reality bears resemblance to these incredible overreactions, I'll be right there declaring my migration. Until then I'd like to maintain a measure of common sense.

tomcruisejr · Mar 21, 2007, 01:02 AM // 01:02

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Originally Posted by Lonesamurai

jesus christ, Gaile has already posted both in this and in the last post, NO MONTHLY FEE IN GW2!!!

Oh and for those interested!

and yes, Morello works for ANet

I'm stressing the monthly fee thingie coz it looks like peeps don't appreciate a great game, WITH NO MONTHLY FEES.

Loviatar · Mar 21, 2007, 01:03 AM // 01:03

ASIDE FROM DRUNKARD since i have the spiked eggnogs already i have stopped any grinding for titles that will not carry over anyway and only provide some small unspecified benefit while grinding 20 GW2 levels may give me more benefits in a fraction of the time. (if i get it)

WHO ELSE HAS PUT GW1 TITLE GRIND ON HOLD?

FireFox · Mar 21, 2007, 01:03 AM // 01:03

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Originally Posted by Swift Thief

SWeet! No humans in GW2!!!

please tell me what you read that made you think that

jayce · Mar 21, 2007, 01:04 AM // 01:04

GWEN is going to kill us all in the EOTN endgame, or something else will which is why we won't be able to transfer characters over to GW2. in any event, Anet is going to throw us a hanging curveball with chin-music in EOTN. i too wanted to keep my charater. but its not the end of the world. i overwhemingly approve of all thats been reported so far and will go out and buy a copy of PCG when it hits the stands. i only hope that there will still be necromancers in GW2.

Jayce Of Underworld

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Animate Soul Lich
Energy: 25
Cast: 3
Recharge: 0

Elite Skill. Animate a level 1...14 Soul Lich
at your location and you lose all energy. You
suffer -1 energy regeneration for each Soul Lich
you control. Whenever a Soul Lich you control
deals damage, you gain 2 energy.(Soul Reaping)

Hippie Bane · Mar 21, 2007, 01:04 AM // 01:04

Add me to the list of people who aren't overwhelmed by the press release. It seems like they are deliberately trying to alienate as many people as possible. I can't bring my old characters in? My only benefit is to see my minipets and my weapons? Thanks, but no thanks. If they keep the real Guild Wars servers up, I'll play till they turn them off. Other than that, I'm not going to play a WoW clone.

Curse You · Mar 21, 2007, 01:04 AM // 01:04

Just curious (and too lazy to find out for myself); is PC gamer sold in Canada, or at least Toronto? I don't want to walk into a store and end up looking like a complete idiot, if they don't even sell in Canada...

Inde · Mar 21, 2007, 01:05 AM // 01:05

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Originally Posted by Ouchie

I need an official what will be transferred through hall of monuments ---- titles ---items ---will I be known as a desendant of someone who was a KoaBD--- can i keep my name ----is it reserved for me ----can i create the same look ----will there be the human form ~ lets face it my beloved ranger is NOT mating with a char to make a weird family tree

Ah ha! I have the 'partial' answer to this according to the article. Your titles/achievements will be transferable and "will go down in history via a monument in your honor." It will act as a family inheritance, a place where your GW1 titles and minipets (these were the examples) are displayed and and allow access to some GW2 benefits. Such as you can put your weapons in a display case and have your GW2 characters use them. You'll have to have the Eye of the North chapter in order to gain all this though.

lacasner · Mar 21, 2007, 01:05 AM // 01:05

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Why get up in the morning, when you have to spend half the day working?

Why bother breathing, or going through the harsh things that come with living, when you're going to die some day?

It's the JOURNEY, not the DESTINATION people.

All things end, have fun before they are over. I doubt they are taking the servers down when GW2 comes up. We'll have four areas with 10 professions. That's 40 replays, plus PVP, plus titles, plus...

I've got 10 characters, out of the possible "30 completions" possible, I've done maybe six, and I play steadily. There is so much to do in this game. A lack of expansions will not take that away.

Halo 1 ended, Halo 2 ended, Halo 3 will end. Doom ended, etc. Games end, don't abandon all hope because of a fact of life.

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As to the level cap or any other information we were told about through a THIRD PARTY source.

Wait. And. See.

Do we know the change in levels suddenly puts a level 100 character in better 1v1 stance than a level 20? No. Do we know that attributes, health, and energy goes up with levels higher than 20? Nope. Not that I saw.

That's one of the things that annoyed me with GW using the arbitrary level "20". It should have just been listed as "100% completed."

That's all the number means, that you are ready for the high-end content. You are a "completed" character.

Wait. And. See.

And enjoy!

Your comparisons are flawed..none of these things are similar to mmo type games.
You simply do not understand effect of these characters on future decisions in mmo's.

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WHO ELSE HAS PUT GW1 TITLE GRIND ON HOLD?

I've put gw1 entirely on hold now..

sacul123 · Mar 21, 2007, 01:05 AM // 01:05

/jump... hell ya. Found myself using that command quite often

I enjoyed GW1 and I have high hopes for GW2.

You have to remember, it is ~2 years from now, plenty of time to get Kind of a big Deal title. Just my 2 cents lol

Hagbardnc · Mar 21, 2007, 01:06 AM // 01:06

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Originally Posted by CR3AT0R

Thanks Anet if i wanted huge player gvg id go play wow.
Seeing now that this is more or less my only choice now i WILL go over to WoW for the main reason is that they implemented it first and im willing to pay to play WoW just because they came up with this idea and didnt steal it.

Cya guys its been fun
/leaveGW

For all that have this opinion save your money. After all I don't want you to find out that WoW did build itself on the backs of other games. If you don't believe it, go check out Dark Age of Camelot. I know they for one predated WoW by years, not to mention others that had Guild v Guild on a huge stage. Hence I guess WoW did steal the entire basis of the game they "created" when you look at what pre-dated them.

/laugh