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Jamison0071 · Jan 14, 2008, 10:14 AM // 10:14

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Originally Posted by -Loki-

I still don't get why people enjoyed Nightfall more. It was horribly long and drawn out, almost as much as Prophecies was, in a big desert. Yeah, different kinds of desert, but a big desert still. Factions campaign was short, but with the exception of Danikas voice acting, somewhat enjoyable, and the environments were some of the best in the series.

My thoughts exactly.

And welcome to Guild Wars and the forums, Kaydee.

glountz · Jan 14, 2008, 10:15 AM // 10:15

Bored of GW, I personnally switched to WoW. But I play GW every now and then.
If you are 5 people, make a guild, and recruit people with the same age/mentality to have a strong group of 10-12 people active.
Then, you will be able to enjoy most of GW has to offer. PuGs are baed, people met on the fly in PVE in GW are baed, you will only take fun and pleasure playing with your guildies through a voice com. Guild wars have a lot of content to offer, but after having finished campaigns once or more, you will eventually be bored unless you'va a strong competitive team that will play PvP.
Buy the chapters in this order : Nightfall (for heroes) then GwEN (for heroes + skills + people) or Factions as you wish (for comps mainly, Factions possess skills like Broad Head Arrow or Spoil Victor that are very powerful).
Skipping one chapter will make it harder, in addition, you won't be competitive in PvP.

Kaydee · Jan 14, 2008, 10:24 AM // 10:24

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Originally Posted by Jamison0071

My thoughts exactly.

And welcome to Guild Wars and the forums, Kaydee.

Thank you

arcanemacabre · Jan 14, 2008, 10:51 AM // 10:51

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Originally Posted by -Loki-

I still don't get why people enjoyed Nightfall more. It was horribly long and drawn out, almost as much as Prophecies was, in a big desert. Yeah, different kinds of desert, but a big desert still. Factions campaign was short, but with the exception of Danikas voice acting, somewhat enjoyable, and the environments were some of the best in the series.

Factions has the most beautiful areas in the game, except for the completely unbearable slums of Kaineng. Nightfall was, in my opinion, the most fun of all the games. Sure, visually, it's possibly the worst (tiresome deserts and the "ugh" feeling of desolation and torment), but the freedom of the areas, the overall fun-factor to mobs and quests, the unique missions (such as Dasha Vestibule, Tihark Orchard, etc) and the feeling of being able to [kinda, half-assed] control the storyline made it the most fun.

I have 9 characters (with a 10th perma-pre), and they have all made it at least to the Bone Palace, with 6 having beaten Nightfall, and I still love it. It just doesn't get old for me. GW:EN got old for me after the first time through, and so did Factions. Prophecies still has a little appeal for me, but not the missions, just the explorables.

I think it really depends on the person, though. Factions has a more RPG feel, since it is so restrictive by the storyline. The downside to that is the storyline of Factions is just horrible, predictable, and as mentioned before, riddled with bad voice acting which makes many of the cutscenes unbearable. The Nightfall story was much better, but the game was made a bit more open, and more of an MMO feel than a classic RPG. Just depends on what you like more, I guess.

However, if you like PvP and competition more, Factions is the way to go.

Turtle222 · Jan 14, 2008, 01:35 PM // 13:35

Buy it mate, it is totally worth it. we get new players coming in all the time

. But playing with people you know is something spectacular. Knowing each other's moves and playing patterns make this game very entertaining.

Rocky Raccoon · Jan 14, 2008, 01:44 PM // 13:44

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Originally Posted by Kaydee

Well in a mmorpg i also like talking to more people that just my core of friends, thats one of the bonus sides of a mmorpg. So if a game is empty and its just me and my friends (excagerated sp?) its not as fun as if the main towns is full of people

if you know what i mean.

But from what i can hear, it seems the game is still going strong.

Find yourself a good guild with an alliance and you will have plenty of people to play with and socialize.

stretchs · Jan 14, 2008, 02:01 PM // 14:01

Welcome to Guildwars Kaydee. I would have to echo the sentiments of several posts here. If you enjoy the game, I would suggest getting Nightfall or EotN first, then go to Factions. As well, see if you and your merry band of friends can find a guild of pve people so you can indeed enjoy the social aspect of the game. That is the main reason I too still play gw, of course I tried wow and almost cried at how BAD the graphics were, that was a short 14day trial key. =]

Good luck and hope you continue to enjoy the game as much as many of us have regardless of some of the poopoo'ing trolls on this forum.

freekedoutfish · Jan 14, 2008, 02:07 PM // 14:07

Honestly, DO NOT listen to people who rant on about the game dieing and places being empty blah blah blah. Any online RPG or MMO is going to have locations which are empty why others are full.

That is no reflection on whether the game is worth playing or about to die. Obviously most older players end up sticking to set locations like elite zones and higher end areas, but that doesnt mean lower end areas cant be played.

GWs a really good game and all 3 campaigns and the expanson are worth buying and playing. They all add something new and different and worth experiencing.

The game will last a long time yet and it has a hell of a lot of content to play through with just one character. Do not listen to nagative views and just play the game how you want.

At the end of the day, the entire game is soloable if you cant find anyone. But with 5 friends playing along side you, that is more then enough for support whenn you need it.

Just enjoy yourself and get stuck in.

jackie · Jan 14, 2008, 02:08 PM // 14:08

GW doesn't have same kind of social dimension in it like WoW, you won't find yourself talking/playing with random ppl while doing quests and exploring the world. Guild Chat / Alliance Chat, well basically your friends are nowadays only decent source of social activity in GW.
Outposts are pretty much just lobbies where most just grab henchies/heroes and go on their own.

RhanoctJocosa · Jan 14, 2008, 02:21 PM // 14:21

The game is definitely dying. Don't waste your money on anything else imo, just wait for GW2.

Mork from Ork · Jan 14, 2008, 02:53 PM // 14:53

If you are getting it for the pve aspects and to play with friends you already know - then buy it, by all means.

If you are looking for online social interaction - well, at almost 3 years it is getting a bit long in the tooth. Death is not int the immediate future but no game lasts forever and with no ability for player mods it is coming to the end of its lifespan.

BenjZee · Jan 14, 2008, 03:16 PM // 15:16

well you managed to get through the emptyness of propheices ok? as you are doing it as a group of friends (which sounds great fun) you shouldn't have problems on missions. There are a few inwhich you need actual players; they help well with the ones where you have to pick up items.
as for choice of which campaigns. Get them all...dont listen to the people who hate them. Theres 100s of hours of gameplay and fun to be had. I suggest playing them in order.

Make one character per campaign to experience the tutorials etc and quests. Complete the camnpaign with one cahracter then decide upon your favourite to be your main. Use this character to go through the other 2 games.
MOve onto eye of the north afterwards. I think it would be alot more fun playing them in the order. You could try waiting for your mates to complete the game before you move on to the nesxt

Torqual · Jan 14, 2008, 04:45 PM // 16:45

Get Factions, choose Kurzick / Luxon, and play Alliance Battles. Buy some much nicer armours.

Get Nightfall, get Heroes, face the toughest areas in GW.

The only issue you will have is that most guilds are made up of people who've already completed all 3 campaigns and are doing 'grind'. You are in a very lucky situation as it's all new for you.

I recommend doing all three campaigns just as the 5 of you with Henchmen and Heroes. Don't play with other people as most players you meet will be incredibly arrogant and impatient with new players. They will just be rude and insult your skill bars. They will tell you where to stand and what skills to use, and spoil just about every surprise in the game. Lack of people is NOT a problem. You only need other people when you want to play PvP.

I played all three campaigns together with the same group of 3-5 real life friends and we purposefully excluded people that had already done the content because, when it happened, it was a pain in the ass.

Play the campaigns, make your own mistakes, learn how to be good and don't take other people's spoilers or 'uber-leetzor' builds.

Actually most people on here will envy you. All that 'new' content ahead. It's a great game...enjoy yourselves.

Gambit Shinobi · Jan 14, 2008, 05:32 PM // 17:32

To the OP:

If you came from WoW and considered yourselves hardcore players in that game, then Guild Wars won't satisfy the hunger of never-ending content and grinding. If you're all hardcore, you will finish the other 3 GW games within 1-2 months easily. From there, if you're hardcore enough, you can grind in GW for titles, elite gear/weapons, and try to make enough money to get into the extremely rare mini market, controlled by a handful of cheaters and other hardcore legit players.

I myself came from Final Fantasy XI (stopped playing over 2 years ago) and was hardcore in that game. I started GW about 2+ months ago and played through Guild Wars and beat Factions, Nightfall, and Eye within 1 month on 1 character and I now have 4 more lvl 20s. While I haven't done all the quests or dungeons in all games, I got through the main missions rather quickly and easily. So the content in GW PvE will not hold you and your hardcore friends through to GW2.

Having said all of that, if you guys are just looking for a game to keep you occupied through the withdrawl of WoW, getting the other GW games might be a good choice. After you're all done with PvE, you can get into PvP. Supposedly, that's where the true GW gaming is at. Also, I don't really think GW will die in the near future. But the playerbase is obviously not as large or vibrant as it used to be. Either way, buying all 4 GW games isn't nearly as expensive as paying for WoW for half a year... especially if you can find good discounts on GW games.

Keithark · Jan 14, 2008, 06:43 PM // 18:43

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Originally Posted by Gambit Shinobi

To the OP:

If you came from WoW and considered yourselves hardcore players in that game, then Guild Wars won't satisfy the hunger of never-ending content and grinding. If you're all hardcore, you will finish the other 3 GW games within 1-2 months easily. From there, if you're hardcore enough, you can grind in GW for titles, elite gear/weapons, and try to make enough money to get into the extremely rare mini market, controlled by a handful of cheaters and other hardcore legit players.

I myself came from Final Fantasy XI (stopped playing over 2 years ago) and was hardcore in that game. I started GW about 2+ months ago and played through Guild Wars and beat Factions, Nightfall, and Eye within 1 month on 1 character and I now have 4 more lvl 20s. While I haven't done all the quests or dungeons in all games, I got through the main missions rather quickly and easily. So the content in GW PvE will not hold you and your hardcore friends through to GW2.

Having said all of that, if you guys are just looking for a game to keep you occupied through the withdrawl of WoW, getting the other GW games might be a good choice. After you're all done with PvE, you can get into PvP. Supposedly, that's where the true GW gaming is at. Also, I don't really think GW will die in the near future. But the playerbase is obviously not as large or vibrant as it used to be. Either way, buying all 4 GW games isn't nearly as expensive as paying for WoW for half a year... especially if you can find good discounts on GW games.

Rubbish..just that it "used to be" only 2 chapters so the people were more compressed. Now they are more spread out over all 4 chapters but they are still there. For every town in Factions that used to be full 24/7 and is now empty there is another town in Nightfall or GWEN that is full 24/7

JASON626 · Jan 14, 2008, 06:52 PM // 18:52

Prophecies - Slow paced leveling characters. PvE kinda intros you into PvP. Big map.

Factions - Faced pace level 20. Introduces Alliance battles kurzick verses Luxon. Assissins and ritualist. Two elite missions, The Deep and Urgoz.

Nightfall - An in between paced game. Introduces Heros. Very helpful to have heros instead of henchman. You can flag them away set up skills for them and attack or not attack. New character Dervish and Paragon. Elite mission is domain of anguish with 4 seperate areas to get to the final boss.

Gwen - Expansion for level 20's. Nothin really new, added consumables and npcs that say hi to you when you talk. More pve only skills. Added more optainable heros. Graphics are alittle nicer. Blah ending. 18 dungeons. 1 elite dungeon Slavers exhile, 3 areas to get to the 4th final.

The first champaign i bought was factions about 3 months before nightfall came out. Then bought nightfall then bought prophecies then gwen. Its really tough for people to say which is the best becuase I believe its based on your first expierence with GW. I alway have that familiar feel with factions its where I learn guildwars. Alot of players say prophecies but that probably where they started. Guild wars has improved alot sin the last 18 months update wise. My favorites Factions, nightfall, prophecies, then gwen.

But honestly to be competitive in guild wars you really almost need the 3 main games for the skills that each has to offer. elite and regular skills. are diffrent in each with a handfull or core skills that can be found in all.

Painbringer · Jan 14, 2008, 06:54 PM // 18:54

I suggest nightfall. You get heroes who can fill a spot if you are missing someone from you five. Also they can fill the last 3 spots. GW is not dying it is maturing

Operative 14 · Jan 14, 2008, 07:32 PM // 19:32

I'm going to repeat what a lot of people have said, but it is true. Guild Wars isn't dying, it's just that the player base is spread out among four different campaigns. And even though there are people leaving, I think a trip to Pre-Sear Ascalon, Shing Jea, or Kamadan shows how many people are also coming into the game. In your group alone you brought five new players.

I would highly recomend that you buy the other campaigns, they are definately worth it. For me, Nightfall was my favorite campaign, even though Prophicies was the one I started in. However, I would suggest you play them in the order they came out, otherwise it's sort of like skipping a book in a four part series.

Good luck in the game, and welcome to the community.

BenjZee · Jan 14, 2008, 07:34 PM // 19:34

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Originally Posted by Operative 14

I'm going to repeat what a lot of people have said, but it is true. Guild Wars isn't dying, it's just that the player base is spread out among four different campaigns. And even though there are people leaving, I think a trip to Pre-Sear Ascalon, Shing Jea, or Kamadan shows how many people are also coming into the game. In your group alone you brought five new players.

I would highly recomend that you buy the other campaigns, they are definately worth it. For me, Nightfall was my favorite campaign, even though Prophicies was the one I started in. However, I would suggest you play them in the order they came out, otherwise it's sort of like skipping a book in a four part series.

Good luck in the game, and welcome to the community.

aww, why kind all people be like you

Orange Milk · Jan 14, 2008, 07:48 PM // 19:48

If your going to PvP, you need them all.

If not, wear out Prophicies for a bit and se what ya think. Factions gets dissed on alot, but I like it and it's probably the cheapest to buy atm. IF you want more interaction, go with Nightfall or GW:EN and get in a guild/Alliance. I like the idea someone mentioned of "going in order" but like what was also said, your getting in late and more people are on the newer ones than the older ones.

@ Freaked out Fish GRATS on the first post I've ever seen you make that was not really bad, keep it up!