Curse

Red Sonya · Jan 18, 2008, 11:26 AM // 11:26

Yeah hero key bind makes hero spiking so much easier now.

Lagg · Jan 18, 2008, 01:18 PM // 13:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

Just in case you guys missed it, we have a Dev Update with some discussion of today's skill changes. Catch it here.

Could we get a comment on why the Norn Blessings weren't touched (yet)?

Having some official word on the issue would appease a large and concerned part of the PvE crowd.

Thank you.

Numa Pompilius · Jan 18, 2008, 01:32 PM // 13:32

No significant changes, just peanuts. I thought this was supposed to be a "major rebalancing"?

Continued screwing of PvE with the ridiculously overpowered PvE skills. ANet, seriously, not all who play PvE are hardcore farmers. Kill Ursan already!
(And while you're at it, remove all in-game effects of titles as well)

ManMadeGod · Jan 18, 2008, 02:12 PM // 14:12

magebane was way too strong.
it's still strong because it can not be blocked.

lol @ necro "buff"
trash skills are still trash.

snikerz · Jan 18, 2008, 02:26 PM // 14:26

Anti-Ursan whiners still at it lol, it will never be touched simply because its not overpowered on its own, its the consumables, end of story.

don't take my word for it though, go test the dps in the gtob and compare it to a nuker.

HayesA · Jan 18, 2008, 02:37 PM // 14:37

Pretty lawlz balence update. I play mostly ele, and chilling winds might be worth a second look.

and lawlz. no ursan nerf. They're never going to nerf it guys. Get over it.

Numa Pompilius · Jan 18, 2008, 02:43 PM // 14:43

@snikerz: it isn't the raw dps. Raw dps mean shit all. There's a reason people vanquish with 5 ursans, not 5 nukers, and it's that you get perma-knockdown combined with damage mitigation and armor-ignoring damage without any planning or thought or skill at all.

Eli Rela · Jan 18, 2008, 03:27 PM // 15:27

and that affect YOUR gameplay how? Let people use whatever they want, it is a game, it is PvE, you do not want to use it, then don't.

Eli Rela · Jan 18, 2008, 03:30 PM // 15:30

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Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius

No significant changes, just peanuts. I thought this was supposed to be a "major rebalancing"?

Continued screwing of PvE with the ridiculously overpowered PvE skills. ANet, seriously, not all who play PvE are hardcore farmers. Kill Ursan already!
(And while you're at it, remove all in-game effects of titles as well)

Let others play as they want, it is PvE, we have 1000 of ppl who like steamroll over mobs vs 10 uber elitists who are so 1337, their 1337ness is dripping from their ears, go play WoW, do us a favor.

lyra_song · Jan 18, 2008, 03:32 PM // 15:32

"Let people play how they want" routine going on again.

When will people realize this is a failed argument?

Eli Rela · Jan 18, 2008, 03:37 PM // 15:37

What is it? A gestapo? Or KGB? I thought we do have rights to play as we want, and yes I do realize the this is a failed argument in the world where e-peen is the king.

lyra_song · Jan 18, 2008, 03:44 PM // 15:44

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Originally Posted by Eli Rela

What is it? A gestapo? Or KGB? I thought we do have rights to play as we want, and yes I do realize the this is a failed argument in the world where e-peen is the king.

This game, like it or not, has a community.

And even though an individual player's specific actions within their instance do not affect the community, the direction in which Anet takes the game to tailor the game for those player types AFFECTS ALL PLAYERS.

No. Im not telling you to NOT play Ursan. Thats your choice.

Im telling Anet, STOP PUTTING THIS KIND OF CRAP IN THIS GAME.

Understand the difference?

I dislike Ursan for the same reason i dislike any broken or overpowered skill, it doesn't make the game better, it makes it worse.

Darkobra · Jan 18, 2008, 03:45 PM // 15:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius

No significant changes, just peanuts. I thought this was supposed to be a "major rebalancing"?

Continued screwing of PvE with the ridiculously overpowered PvE skills. ANet, seriously, not all who play PvE are hardcore farmers. Kill Ursan already!
(And while you're at it, remove all in-game effects of titles as well)

If you're not a hardcore farmer, why does it affect you enough to want them to kill it? Not that it affects my gameplay one way or another. I just want to know why something that doesn't affect you actually bothers you.

Shadowspawn X · Jan 18, 2008, 03:54 PM // 15:54

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Originally Posted by TurtleTurtle

Ursan = hate from all those elitists that farmed DoA prior to EoTN and made bank. I understand them wanting the nerf, it can make a bad player decent, takes the skill out of elite missions and hurts their income. But Anet wants more than a select few people enjoying the game (well sorta, don't think Polar Bear mini.)

The problem is lamers, UB'ing their way though vanquishing and missions, as long as that broken skill is out there protector, guardian and vanquisher are crap titles. Doesnt have a thing to do with DoA on why its bad for the game.

The Meth · Jan 18, 2008, 04:27 PM // 16:27

Ursan isn't overpowered, its decently powered. Give any group 6 warriors with a decent build that easy to use and you will beat anything in pve. Ursan just makes said decent build standardized. There are far more overpowered PvE skills then any of the blessings. I'm not against nerfing all PvE skills, but Ursan is definitely not the one that should get hit first.

RTSFirebat · Jan 18, 2008, 04:56 PM // 16:56

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Originally Posted by Swift Thief

Nothing wrong with it.

Wrong! Winter is broken and does not convert elemental damage to ice.

Ouchie · Jan 18, 2008, 04:59 PM // 16:59

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Originally Posted by Darkobra

If you're not a hardcore farmer, why does it affect you enough to want them to kill it? Not that it affects my gameplay one way or another. I just want to know why something that doesn't affect you actually bothers you.

Getting a group who doesn't want you to be a bear is difficult already

. Even my hubby wants me to be a bear

I am not saying people shouldn't be a bear - I just don't see the appeal but If I really wanna pug I have to

zwei2stein · Jan 18, 2008, 05:02 PM // 17:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by lyra_song

This game, like it or not, has a community.

And even though an individual player's specific actions within their instance do not affect the community, the direction in which Anet takes the game to tailor the game for those player types AFFECTS ALL PLAYERS.

No. Im not telling you to NOT play Ursan. Thats your choice.

Im telling Anet, STOP PUTTING THIS KIND OF CRAP IN THIS GAME.

Understand the difference?

I dislike Ursan for the same reason i dislike any broken or overpowered skill, it doesn't make the game better, it makes it worse.

Bingo! This is what ursan related hate is all about.

Inde · Jan 18, 2008, 05:52 PM // 17:52

Okay, first post has been updated with the dev comments.

Second, can we please not turn this into another Ursan thread. There are plenty of other threads to do this in and has been debated to death.

Bryant Again · Jan 18, 2008, 05:54 PM // 17:54

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Originally Posted by Inde

Second, can we please not turn this into another Ursan thread. There are plenty of other threads to do this in and has been debated to death.

They either A. Are already closed or B. Get closed and yelled at for ressing them. We can't win, no matter how hard we try :_ (

That said, the Hero hotkeys are pretty slick. I never really asked this before now, but has anyone found the lag of using a hero skill kinda annoying? Would be cool if they made them activate properly...