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Clarissa F · Jan 23, 2008, 11:06 PM // 23:06

The problem with WoW isn't the cartooniness as much as male characters looking like Mark McGwire circa 1998 and female characters looking straight out of the Bada-Bing. Don't get started on the lame combat graphics.

On topic, GW2 will be way beyond the graphics of Aion. It's coming out about a year after, so think of the games it will face off against. And with Age of Conan taking a lot of the fan base that can actually vote, welcome aboard more 'tards raiding their lawn money for a game. -Sigh-...good times...

A good thing is, they've really geared the storyline towards other species, with the Charr dominating Ascalon like the Golden Horde, and Palawa Joko bitch-slapping the Sunspears. Humans will be wedged into Lion's Arch and Cantha, which will be a hermit kingdom. It will be interesting enough, and the graphics and art good enough, to attract plenty of casual gamers, which is who they have always wanted.

Zinger314 · Jan 23, 2008, 11:37 PM // 23:37

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Originally Posted by Aera Lure

Its cartoony style is more of the sort one would see on Nickelodeon. I'd rather see an animation style that's a bit more refined, with colors a little less oversaturated and designs that are less goofy. WoW's look was originally what turned me away from it and I never gave it a second chance. Still wont.

Oddly enough, I heard that exact same argument 5 years ago...when people were critizing The Legend of "Celda": Wind Waker. Look how that turned out.

Shadow Kurd · Jan 24, 2008, 12:26 AM // 00:26

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Originally Posted by Lonesamurai

It does, £8/$15 a month

How u know?
If it does, I'm forgetting all about it.I don't play enough to pay for play

Lonesamurai · Jan 24, 2008, 12:28 AM // 00:28

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Originally Posted by Shadow Kurd

How u know?
If it does, I'm forgetting all about it.I don't play enough to pay for play

I asked and its pay to play and thats the price of allpay monthly NCSoft games

Aera Lure · Jan 24, 2008, 03:03 AM // 03:03

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Originally Posted by Zinger314

Oddly enough, I heard that exact same argument 5 years ago...when people were critizing The Legend of "Celda": Wind Waker. Look how that turned out.

Seemed to work well enough for Zelda, to my eye, both at that time and looking back on it now. I'd even like an MMO in a cel shaded style, just not WoW's goofiness and garish colors. Its more the implementation of the style than the idea that bothers me about WoW's graphics. Seems not to bother a great, great many people though. Just saying for myself that it turned me away and kept me away.

I could actually use a little more fancifulness in GW. I like what I see in Aion, but all that really does is open the door a little. I'd have to play it as well.

Nevin · Jan 24, 2008, 03:31 AM // 03:31

The only thing I don't like about Aion is what I don't like about 99% percent of MMO's. You guys have to see the actual "gameplay" videos, not a trailer. Its literally the same old kill one monster, move to the next, and so on and so forth.

Mordakai · Jan 24, 2008, 03:19 PM // 15:19

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Originally Posted by Clarissa F

The problem with WoW isn't the cartooniness as much as male characters looking like Mark McGwire circa 1998 and female characters looking straight out of the Bada-Bing. Don't get started on the lame combat graphics.

I'm not going to argue that you're wrong...

but do you honestly believe Guild Wars has better combat graphics?

Bryant Again · Jan 24, 2008, 03:28 PM // 15:28

"Better Combat Graphics" in terms of what? Flashy special effects?

Mordakai · Jan 24, 2008, 03:39 PM // 15:39

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Originally Posted by Bryant Again

"Better Combat Graphics" in terms of what? Flashy special effects?

I'm just saying, I don't find the combat animations of either game particularly amazing.

Of course, in both games I'm spending more time watching skills recharge, health bars, etc, than the actual combat anyway.

And the idea that GW's females aren't sexed up, and that male warriors don't look like Conan, is ridiculous.

I love comparing WoW to GW, but let's not get silly with our accusations!

Bryant Again · Jan 24, 2008, 03:46 PM // 15:46

In RPGs in general, animation is a huge nasty nit-pick for me. Don't know why, don't know still. But if the game has iffy animation, I'm gonna have a hard time enjoying it. It sucks, I know : (

That aside, I'd consider both WoW and GW to have pretty nice animation. There are a few exceptions to both: Male humans in WoW may run like a stick up their bum, and male rangers/eles/rits/paragons have an annoying as hell hop in their run. In terms of combat animations, GW may have the upper-hand in a few instances. But casting animations in WoW are pretty bad ass.

Craywulf · Jan 25, 2008, 12:27 AM // 00:27

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Originally Posted by Mordakai

I'm just saying, I don't find the combat animations of either game particularly amazing.

Of course, in both games I'm spending more time watching skills recharge, health bars, etc, than the actual combat anyway.

And the idea that GW's females aren't sexed up, and that male warriors don't look like Conan, is ridiculous.

I love comparing WoW to GW, but let's not get silly with our accusations!

I would love to see GW2 add some blood and gore like Conan. Or at least have a toggle to control the amount of gore displayed in battle.

It certainly would attract a lot gamers. I don't think casual players would mind it.

Nevin · Jan 25, 2008, 12:34 AM // 00:34

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/21407.html <--- Aion

Thats Aion's "combat graphics" at its best I assume. Personally I love the style of Aion from the graphics to the animations, but for me the gameplay still is just too underwhelming.

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/28912.html <--- Age of Conan

As for Age of Conan.. Well that game has sorta been dismissed by a large number of people. It was a lot of hype, the actual gameplay looks more like mashing your click key whilst looking at your target. Now how different is that really from just point and clicks? Yes theres some awesome decapitation in the game, but by the looks of it, that probably only happens once in a blue moon.

For PvP though, I'd have to say.. As of right now the PvP combat in Aion looks more exciting then Age of Conan, but thats because its flashier and prettier.

Lonesamurai · Jan 25, 2008, 03:02 AM // 03:02

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Originally Posted by Nevin

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/21407.html <--- Aion

Thats Aion's "combat graphics" at its best I assume. Personally I love the style of Aion from the graphics to the animations, but for me the gameplay still is just too underwhelming.

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/28912.html <--- Age of Conan

As for Age of Conan.. Well that game has sorta been dismissed by a large number of people. It was a lot of hype, the actual gameplay looks more like mashing your click key whilst looking at your target. Now how different is that really from just point and clicks? Yes theres some awesome decapitation in the game, but by the looks of it, that probably only happens once in a blue moon.

You know, neither of themare getting me all "juicy" to want to play them... But then neither is Warhammer Online and even in the beta, I'm barely playing that too...

Aion looks like traditional grindy MMO and AoC looks frankly clunky from what we've seen so far... especially as its supposed to be DX10.1 and a shiny example of what DX10.1 has to offer...

I'm just more than happy on EvE Online and coming back to GW when my guild need another team member to flesh out a team

Buster · Jan 25, 2008, 05:59 AM // 05:59

It's really about taste. WOW is more cartoony, GW is more detailed, Aion seems to be a cross of both lol. I dunno, it just depends on what you like I guess.