Curse

ProgTes · Jan 24, 2008, 09:52 PM // 21:52

That's one hell of a job you did there, congratulations. I for one would like to know the build just because of the 24 shards, but still, 4 hours would be too much time for me ^^

As for the 4 horsemen, you won't be able to do that without tanking the 2 parts. I did the entire FoW with a guildie and rest heroes, twice, and I did UW with 3 guildies and 4 heroes IIRC. Just let an obsidian tank tank one side (or in your case yourself, if you can maintain invulnerability, sort of) and let the rest of the party do the hacking on the other side. You really need to have spell immunity though or you won't last long enough for the other side to finish their job. Obsidian tank does the job nicely, especially when under the effects of the Almighty Consumables

eximiis · Jan 24, 2008, 09:53 PM // 21:53

@op

Open up your heart and other ppl will do the same for you !!!

Like MagmaRed already said, UW and FoW is already done with 2-man.

And to answer your other question, the quest "four horsemen" as been done with a 2 man.

furin · Jan 24, 2008, 09:54 PM // 21:54

At Sir Magma:

There are things that wiki doesn't show or say. Locations where one can aggro both groups perhaps? Certain skills that might be particulary good against the bosses and their fire ele's. Non-elite ones perhaps?

Besides, nobody's forcing you to read or take part in this thread. I'm not saying that you can't, I'm just saying that maybe you shouldn't, cause it's not your thing?

Carboplatin · Jan 24, 2008, 09:55 PM // 21:55

the only way i can see the 4 horses be taken down is with 2 tanks. They come from two sides and grouping them without aggroing the reaper is next to impossible

edit - i take it back. check these guys out

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10244027

ProgTes · Jan 24, 2008, 09:59 PM // 21:59

When in a party with 8, 1 tank on one side, and 7 on the other side will do. The only thing that matters is if the lonely tank can survive long enough. Which the obsidian tank can.

furin · Jan 24, 2008, 10:00 PM // 22:00

I have been going over having spell breaker on my monk to put on the reaper in combination with life bond. Have the reaper tank one side while I kill the other side on my dervish. The problem with that however is that I would have to get rid of life barrier, and without life barrier I can't take the ripostes from the aatxe at the beginning, so I'd have to replace that with something non-elite. Which is rediculously hard with the amount of skill slots I have for spare.

MagmaRed · Jan 24, 2008, 10:16 PM // 22:16

As far as I know, you will need at least 1 of 3 skills to be able to tank either side. Since you want to do it with 2 characters, you will need 2 of them.

[skill]Spell Breaker[/skill]
[skill]Obsidian Flesh[/skill]
[skill]Vow of Silence[/skill]

Chrono Re delle Ere · Jan 24, 2008, 10:37 PM // 22:37

Let's assume that the derv is using vow of strenght + aura of holy might, + a LOAD of enchantments from the monk (+ strenght of honor to deal more dmg and this kind of things)+ mystic regen + heket's rampage + holy dmg (I think that it also makes dps higher) and I think that you can actually manage to kill 2 shadow monks...lets put in a mystic vigor and you have full HP 24/7....

lets also assume he is spamming vital boon to don't let mesmers strip most important enchantments rofl

Sub Frost · Jan 24, 2008, 10:42 PM // 22:42

Personally i like to do fow/uw with full or almost full groups(get bored while doing it solo/duo), but gratz on your efforts though.

Sergeant of Marines · Jan 24, 2008, 10:45 PM // 22:45

Good job, just very interested in the builds though =D

Jeremy Untouchable · Jan 24, 2008, 11:09 PM // 23:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by R Langdon

the only way i can see the 4 horses be taken down is with 2 tanks. They come from two sides and grouping them without aggroing the reaper is next to impossible

edit - i take it back. check these guys out

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10244027

LOL...cerb is well known as one of the best 55's ever...

RazorEdge · Jan 24, 2008, 11:16 PM // 23:16

Nice going furin

gg

And yeah, usually you have someone with anti-spell elites guarding one side, while others rush the other one. With 2 man, I guess you have to figure out another way to do it.

I'm speculating if it would be possible to aggro both groups before they get to the reaper. As soon as they spawn maybe.

BLOODGOAT · Jan 25, 2008, 09:12 AM // 09:12

So this two-man micromanaged by yourself can FoW clear in 4 hours... interesting. The only time I ever did FoW clear was with a PuG + 1 alliance-mate and it took five wretched hours, primarily because the nukers were running crap like Teinai's Heat and Firestorm. I didn't care though, I was busy mashing Blessed Signet and Ether Signet because I was bonding at 90% of the time, holding 12 enchants. So I had my own complications to worry about.

And the loot was HORRIBLE. 3 shards, including the chest, and it didn't even drop me a R8 inscribable Chaos Axe >:O
I was chapped.

Avarre · Jan 25, 2008, 09:33 AM // 09:33

The only problem when doing Four Horsemen is that the Reaper can make terrorwebs scatter with Maelstrom which can aggro them on the group. That's the only reason cerb and I have failed the quest so far. It's practically a matter of luck as to whether you get aggro dumped on you, which is annoying.

PS: All of you are approaching the 2-man tactic for it completely wrong.

MagmaRed · Jan 25, 2008, 11:22 AM // 11:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Avarre

PS: All of you are approaching the 2-man tactic for it completely wrong.

Maybe so, but saying that and not explaining is rude, and obnoxious. Perhaps some input on it, and advice for the OP would be good if you know something that can help.

Arduin · Jan 25, 2008, 11:52 AM // 11:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Avarre

PS: All of you are approaching the 2-man tactic for it completely wrong.

With comments like these this thread really deserve a lock.

I bow before your almighty GW-power, I am a mere insect compared to you uber-farmers. (I suppose this is what you people want to here, since none of you 2-man farmers are showing your build to the community, and only want to show your e-peen)

Avarre · Jan 25, 2008, 12:38 PM // 12:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by MagmaRed

Maybe so, but saying that and not explaining is rude, and obnoxious. Perhaps some input on it, and advice for the OP would be good if you know something that can help.

I'd think that not saying that would be more of a disservice, considering some of the progression going on here. You can't rely on 'tank' characters for it for the obvious reason that there isn't enough manpower in a small group to tank it. I'm sorry that I'm not going to spoonfeed the tactics for completing the quest. I'm also not obligated to tell you exactly how it is done.

Quote:

Originally Posted by furin

I have been going over having spell breaker on my monk to put on the reaper in combination with life bond. Have the reaper tank one side while I kill the other side on my dervish. The problem with that however is that I would have to get rid of life barrier, and without life barrier I can't take the ripostes from the aatxe at the beginning, so I'd have to replace that with something non-elite. Which is rediculously hard with the amount of skill slots I have for spare.

You're going to need Spellbreaker to take Horsemen, because otherwise the shatters from the Riders will cut through any prot you hold on the Reaper and result in his death. I personally can't think of another way - though I'd be very impressed if you managed it without SB.

Yang Whirlwind · Jan 25, 2008, 01:22 PM // 13:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by BLOODGOAT

And the loot was HORRIBLE. 3 shards, including the chest, and it didn't even drop me a R8 inscribable Chaos Axe >:O
I was chapped.

You're complaining? I only got the one shard from the end chest! Same when I cleared UW: only the glob from the end chest! The golds were crap too! Worst luck ever!

- ahh well, mostly did it for the HoM anyway!

Good job on playing on two comps at once! - have to be sort of tiring in the long run though!

Aera Lure · Jan 25, 2008, 01:57 PM // 13:57

The topic is really kind of pointless without the builds to discuss.

MagmaRed · Jan 25, 2008, 11:18 PM // 23:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aera Lure

The topic is really kind of pointless without the builds to discuss.

The topic has turned into an e-peen growth hormone.

"My build is awesome, I can do FoW and UW with 2 characters I play by myself! I just can't finish 1 quest, so I need your help. Oh, and I won't tell you my build because then all you noobs will be awesome like me."

Even the people offering advice seem to be using e-peen hormones here. Mods saying everyone is going about it wrong, and that he is too leet to spoon feed the noobs.

Maybe you could at least give directions to a good caterer if you don't want to spoon feed us. I personally don't care about 2 man UW/FoW, as I can do that already (just not a complete clear). But there are people who are curious for profit reasons, challenge reasons, and fun reasons. Either close this thread, or start helping those people who are curious how this stuff works.