Curse

jezz · Jan 11, 2008, 07:53 AM // 07:53

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Originally Posted by Taki

Don't waste your time argueing with children or adults who never quite managed to grow up.

The fact that the BMP will be available to most people who want it is a good thing. Had ANet known that the demand would've been as high as it was, there's no question that they would've tried to offer a more suitable solution. It was even stated, truthfully or not, that they didn't believe the content was enough to sell on it's own.

The problem is that there were a lot of crying from people who really wanted to collect the GWEN box/contents and at the time were faced with three choices:

Buy the retail box at a lower price and miss out on the BMP content.
Buy GWEN at a higher price in the online store and then buy a second copy at a retail store for the box.
Buy $30 worth of content from the online store and miss out on the box.

None of those options are favorable to the player. The ideal situation would have been to buy at the lower retail price to get their box and then buy the BMP separate. But that wasn't an option at the time so one way or another they had to make a sacrifice if they wanted both GWEN box and BMP access. This is why some are unhappy and I understand that. However, it did work out great for ANET, at the expense of these players/fans, because if they really wanted both they had no choice but to buy GWEN/$30 of unwanted stuff from the online store and ANET got a bigger cut of the sales that way.

So if you were like me and were planning on buying GWEN online or didn't care about a collectable box, then the BMP was truly free. But if you were one of those who wanted the box and the BMP, then it was not free - it actually came with either an opportunity or real cost.

agree with you..

i was one that bought extra slots to get BMP(have box too)..but i dont regret it, i needed some storage mules anyway.
i dont think that advertising it as a promotion(get free with online purchase), but will sell at later date in-store! would of done their promotion much good.

promotion was confusing maybe misleading but i dont think it was deliberately done to upset anyone.

nobody forced me to purchase, was my choice like it was everyone elses..should except the decision you made and move on.

prism2525 · Jan 11, 2008, 07:57 AM // 07:57

Didn't bother to read all 14 pages of this, but can Anet remove customization from BMP items on release date?

It's only fair now that it's available to everyone.

zwei2stein · Jan 11, 2008, 08:06 AM // 08:06

Note to self: never take part in such stupid promotion, qq and wait few months.

Hollow Gein · Jan 11, 2008, 08:15 AM // 08:15

Woot...That's about it I'm afraid

VanDamselx · Jan 11, 2008, 08:38 AM // 08:38

The only reason I am disappointed was because I was led to believe I wouldn't be able to get another shot at it, so I had to actually borrow money off a friend during a very inconvenient financial time.. Now, I'm better off and I could have actually saved money. I really had no intention of buying GW:EN upon release, but I wanted the BMP and since my friend was so willing to lend me money for it, I figured I would be able to pay them back after things got better.

Also, to those who ask how we couldn't see this coming: no one started complaining until the weapons were announced and everyone found out how nice they were. Many thought they were just 4 lousy missions with shitty greens. No one seemed to care too much during the time the promotion was actually going on. The majority of the QQers came out when they realized the weapons actually had nice skins.

I just don't think it's fair to call it a limited time offer and then turn around and offer it for sale to others. It was deceiving from the start. It's not that I don't want others to have it, but I wish I had been told that it would be offered for sale at a later date.

Shuuda · Jan 11, 2008, 08:42 AM // 08:42

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Originally Posted by zwei2stein

Note to self: never take part in such stupid promotion, qq and wait few months.

Indeed, the QQers always have victory. Here's my take on this.

- Anet should sell the BMP is the store.
- HOWEVER, people who buy it that way should not be able to get the weapons.
- I get to laugh at the people who continue to whine because they only want the BMP for the weapons.

Perfectly fair.

Twisties · Jan 11, 2008, 08:51 AM // 08:51

I think most of us guessed the Mission Pack would be released later on. Those of us who forked out the money during the special promotion, and I did for all my accounts, have had the last few months to play the missions, get the weapons and other stuff. Now, those who couldn't afford it at the time, or are just new to the game have the same opportunity to have extra fun.

Doesn't matter what ANet do, someone is always going to complain.

My one suggestion for the On-line store though would be to have the Collectors Edititions available for purchase, or for an upgrade key the same as they have done for the original Prophecies. I live 4 hours drive from the nearest city, the only way I can purchase games is on-line. I love the fact that the on-line store is digital. I don't have to wait weeks for a box, or have to pay extra postage for something that is just going to sit in the cupboard.

genofreek · Jan 11, 2008, 09:04 AM // 09:04

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Originally Posted by Faer

I believe that it would be in ArenaNet's best interest to, in the future, if they plan to offer something like the BMP for a $30 price tag (all of those people who spent $20-$30 more than they should have for content from the in-game store will understand this better than those who did not) and then a $10 price tag later, they should make their plans known to those that might have some crazy need to save money while still getting a gaming fix.

If, as some might counter, they were not originally planning for this, then perhaps next time around, they should. The way they did it, both sides will complain. If they were to say "from Date A to Date B, we're giving this to people who spend $X in the online store, and they'll have Y months of access to it before we sell it for $Z separately later on", I think it would work out much more in their favor. There are plenty of people who will pay for first access (lolpreorders), so why not just make all future promotions that are doomed to go the way of the BMP work in such a way?

Either way, I don't care much about what happens to the BMP. I got my playtime, and I got my weapons. Beyond that, it's not really my issue, other than to be slightly disappointed at the way the marketing was handled (which, as a customer, even without a subscription, I have a slight right to be disappointed at).

A-freaking-men. I was going to buy GW:EN anyway and all that, but I'm sort of disappointed with how they handled this. While we weren't blatantly lied to, nobody from ANet was in any rush to correct people's conceptions about the BMP being a limited time special edition until last month. Then suddenly it was the promotion that was limited time, not the actual content, wasn't it obvious to everyone winkwink nudgenudge get my drift. In retrospect we should've seen it coming. I mean, they put those NPCs right in the middle of the hub cities and let everyone look at the list of weapons. Still doesn't do much for the disappointment that I finally got some cool limited-edition piece of GW history, and now it's for sale. Not QQing, not raging, not OMFG QUITTING FOREVARS, just a little sad.

I missed out on quite a few things, CEs included, because I was a new player and had no idea they were even offered. Guess I should've made more high-pitched threads in Sardelac, because I'd like some divine auras, /dancenews, bonus weps, and a Kuunavang.

Burning Blade · Jan 11, 2008, 09:13 AM // 09:13

Crybabies need to calm down. The decision to sell BMP does not undermine their previous special promotion at all because:
- You got BMP for free from spending money on SOMETHING ELSE. Those who didnt get it before now have to spend money directly for it.
- You got all the shiny things way before other. Early adopters pay for premium. No thing special here.

Next time ANET runs another special promotion that if you spend $30 online (buy new chapter for example) during such and such period, you will get another set of even more awesome weapons for free. Would you buy online to get those weapons for free and early or you would rather buy a box version for $20 (assuming you can get this cheap price) and few months later pay another $10 just for those weapons?

Shuuda · Jan 11, 2008, 09:20 AM // 09:20

The only real problem is that Anet needs to learn what a Limited Time Bonus Promotion actually is.

Either way, aslong as they dont get the weapons, it'll be a right riot to watch on the forums.

drago34 · Jan 11, 2008, 09:20 AM // 09:20

Do people forget it was supposed to be a promotion for the online store... selling it in retail completely defeats the purpose. All the people who cried only after they found out about the skins now get their way and the loyal customers who bought it for the missions itself now get screwed over. Yay for supporting Anet since beta...

/dissapointed

Bazompora · Jan 11, 2008, 09:25 AM // 09:25

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Guild Wars fans who did not obtain the Bonus Mission Pack during our recent promotion will be able to purchase it from the Guild Wars Online Store, the PlayNC Store, and a variety of retail partners located throughout North America and Europe.

/confidence restored
(the day I'll see it at my local retailers);
I'll be gettin' Eye of the North <only chapter I did not buy till now, out of disagreement with the unavailability of the BMP at retailers> too then.

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Originally Posted by Mordakai

How long before the CE emote aura goes for $10?

Even though I have the CE divine aura, I wouldn't be as petty-minded to want others to be deprived of it ... or even worse, to complain about it.
Enjoy!

Sol Deathgard · Jan 11, 2008, 10:10 AM // 10:10

lotta crybabies here, 1st people cried cause they didn't buy anything online, now people are crying cause they did. I think of it this way, I bought GWEN for $30 & got the BMP free, while those that didn't paid $30 for GWEN & $10 for the BMP.

jezz · Jan 11, 2008, 10:14 AM // 10:14

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Originally Posted by Bazompora

/confidence restored
(the day I'll see it at my local retailers);
I'll be gettin' Eye of the North <only chapter I did not buy till now, out of disagreement with the unavailability of the BMP at retailers> too then.

Even though I have the CE divine aura, I wouldn't be as petty-minded to want others to be deprived of it ... or even worse, to complain about it.
Enjoy!

see i think there is confusion about depriving people of BMP..
nobody wants to deprive anyone..people are upset about the wording used in the promotion..
some thought it was a one time offer and if they didnt get it under the promotion they would never get it again.
like myself i already preordered and purchased box then i got 3 char slots to secure the BMP.
i had a feeling it would be released later on...but wasnt sure, so i didnt want to miss out(feeling a little foolish now) but that was my decision.

btw i couldnt care less about devine aura..unless you can destroy your enemies with it..

Sleeper Service · Jan 11, 2008, 10:17 AM // 10:17

how can i put this elegantly.

"I f-ing told you so".

will the bunch of insulting, QQing, self centered, EGOISTICAL, game quit threatening whiners please quit, log out and uninstall GW as promised.

thank you.

~ Dan ~ · Jan 11, 2008, 10:17 AM // 10:17

Good job anet

And to all those selfish brats in other BMP threads who were laughing at how they had it while others didn't - well, the joke is on you. Bai.

makosi · Jan 11, 2008, 10:21 AM // 10:21

I got the BMP the first time around and I don't mind that it's up for sale in the store. I don't understand how anybody could grudge othes some content for the sake of exclusivity.

How can it detrimentally affect me if more people do those short stories and get a shiny weapon at the end? I won't lose sleep.

Torra · Jan 11, 2008, 10:35 AM // 10:35

Yay

i didn't get it before since i wanted to buy GW:EN from a shop so i could have the box, i don't know why but i just like having the boxes

I was hoping they was gonna do this.

RhanoctJocosa · Jan 11, 2008, 10:36 AM // 10:36

Woot, I can get my hands on those epic weapons for my monk and war. yeye.

the Puppeteer · Jan 11, 2008, 10:40 AM // 10:40

It's the same thing with any new rare item in GW.
When it first comes out it's pretty much expensive, everyone wants one, lots of QQ for it.
Those who spent more cash at the begin had the pleasure of owning them while others couldn't.
Time passes and the price of the item drops - most ppl can get it now, and the ppl who got it early start complaining of spending too much gold on it.
Pretty much selfish imo. You chose to get it and in return you got some extra content & some weapons which skins are far more better than any other even tho it was completely unknown before it started.
Those who didn't get it started with the QQ ofc which I don't think helped towards selling it separately.
It is in antes goal to make more money.