Curse

RhanoctJocosa · Feb 02, 2008, 09:54 PM // 21:54

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Originally Posted by ibreaktoilets

Syncing RA isn't that great a way to get glads. You're much better off just TAing with your organised team if you don't suck.

1) WM disagree. 2) What if vsing R/W R/P Mo/W Rt/Me for 5 hours isn't your idea of fun?

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Originally Posted by Ctb

I think it's more griefing, typically, than glad farming. We came up against a Ranger spike team in RA once who took gret joy in taunting our Random group for losing. It was pretty stupid.

It's cheating, it should be bannable, but how you're going to catch and prove syncing, I don't know. I also, personally, haven't really seen it more than once, so I can't say as I've noticed that it's very pervasive.

It's just another one of those exploits where pathetic little people with pitiable lives can annoy the rest of us to make themselves feel less powerless for a litte bit, I suppose.

Noone takes embittered responses seriously. Go have a cry, come back, and try post again. Syncing has been around for a very long time, and it's definitely not something that should be removed.

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Originally Posted by makosi

I made a thread about this a while back and Andrew Patrick posted saying that he'd relay it to the community board (or a similar establishment - I forgot). He said that it would be dealt with if it was considered a great enough problem and it hasn't been dealt with yet so I'll assume it's not being taken seriously.

Or that it really isn't a great enough problem?

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Originally Posted by Isileth

Yeah the guy with the most did it through synching.

Because you totally know how they got every single one of their points, right?

Everyone is seriously overexaggerating the problem. The majority of sync teams are R/Mo + Mo/W, and unless they have two other competent players what's stopping your team from beating them? The odd full team sync is annoying, but they definitely aren't invincible. I can't remember the last time I've lost to a full team sync in RA, besides one vs. WM in early 07, which was probably one of the best RA matches of my life.

To conclude:

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Originally Posted by yesitsrob

But to be honest does it matter? Unless you're playing RA to title farm it shouldn't affect you, and Gladiator thing is a pretty bad title anyway.

QFT, it's funny how hypocritical people are.

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Originally Posted by makosi

Even if synch-joining isn't that great at glad point farming, it's still a grievance for the random team who have their successful, consecutive run spoiled by a well-synergized rit-spike team using Vent.

It cannot be justified nor excused.

I've gotten about 1700 of my glad points from RA, and I have never, ever, seen a 4 team rt spike. Besides, a strong RA team would easily roll rt spike- your team obviously lacked disruption and enough damage to wipe their 3-4 spirit lights and one or so weapon of wardings.

Ctb · Feb 02, 2008, 10:00 PM // 22:00

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Go have a cry, come back, and try post again.

/ignore

Also, stop cheating in RA.

makosi · Feb 02, 2008, 10:01 PM // 22:01

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Originally Posted by RhanoctJocosa

Or that it really isn't a great enough problem?

That's purely subjective, and whatever the dev team decide to do or not do about it is up to them. I'm only in a position to give opinions.

What isn't subjective is that it is cheating however great or small it may be and the creation of this thread suggests that it is causing grief to those who play normally. Isn't that cause for concern?

I can say that I have beat sync teams and got my glad points too, but that's not the point and is irrelivent to the topic. Everyone knows they aren't invincible but they are at an undeniable advantage.

Tab · Feb 02, 2008, 10:04 PM // 22:04

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Originally Posted by RhanoctJocosa

1) WM disagree.

WM played when it was 10 for a glad point, no matter how many consec you have. With the new system you may aswell TA.

Sub Frost · Feb 02, 2008, 10:08 PM // 22:08

Synching in RA = Pathetic

Nothing more to add.

RhanoctJocosa · Feb 02, 2008, 10:18 PM // 22:18

Ok, I'll continue cheating in RA, and will continue to gain gladiator points, roll bad teams and have fun while doing it. You can continue crying on guru about a "problem" that's been around since the beginning of RA, and let everyone know how bad you are.

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Originally Posted by ibreaktoilets

WM played when it was 10 for a glad point, no matter how many consec you have. With the new system you may aswell TA.

True, but TA is in a terrible state atm which means many people sync RA to enjoy the 4v4 format.

Isileth · Feb 02, 2008, 10:22 PM // 22:22

I have to ask RhanoctJocosa, why is your time more important than others?

Why do you think its ok to cheat in RA so you have can have fun while ruining it for others?

eloogosciu · Feb 02, 2008, 10:26 PM // 22:26

I must say Random Arena isnt really random and that topic proves it totally. Im pissed with fact whenever I play any offensive build the opposite team has usually one monk or 2 or more, and when I'm playing monk or support class I have at least another one in mine team. It's just stupid, they should change the Random Arena sys, and avoid that synchro thing, it just kills the idea of RA.

Blu · Feb 02, 2008, 10:31 PM // 22:31

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Originally Posted by RhanoctJocosa

I've gotten about 1700 of my glad points from RA, and I have never, ever, seen a 4 team rt spike. Besides, a strong RA team would easily roll rt spike- your team obviously lacked disruption and enough damage to wipe their 3-4 spirit lights and one or so weapon of wardings.

The words strong and RA together were kinda oxymoron imo.

makosi · Feb 02, 2008, 10:44 PM // 22:44

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Originally Posted by RhanoctJocosa

I've gotten about 1700 of my glad points from RA, and I have never, ever, seen a 4 team rt spike. Besides, a strong RA team would easily roll rt spike- your team obviously lacked disruption and enough damage to wipe their 3-4 spirit lights and one or so weapon of wardings.

"My team" were not *my* team. They are 4 other randomly selected people whose skillbars I don't know or can't influence. The rit spike (albeit pre-nerf) were 4 rits camping in a horde of offensive and defensive spirits on a platform in The Crag map. Anybody who goes near the spirits is 3, 2, 1 spiked down and pummeled with ghosts chucking stuff at them. Even a Magebane ranger can't get close enough to disrupt the spirit spamming.

On other occasions I have seen 2 Asscasters, 1 support rit and a ZB monk, with the same tag, which is difficult to break considering 2/4 of your team are on the floor taking +100dmg from Toxic Shock and spammed with Augury of Deep Wound. That sort play is not fair for a random team to have to face.

You can't expect a random team to have sufficient disruption and mitigation to deal with synchs.

RhanoctJocosa · Feb 02, 2008, 10:47 PM // 22:47

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Originally Posted by Isileth

I have to ask RhanoctJocosa, why is your time more important than others?

Why do you think its ok to cheat in RA so you have can have fun while ruining it for others?

Does the EULA forbid syncing in RA? No. So it's not cheating. Also, I don't know what district you play in, but in ID is full of good players, and just because you sync doesn't mean you'll automatically get 10 wins.

People sync, people have fun, people get glad points. Cry about it all you want, nothing's going to change.

I don't know what the point of this thread was, but if the OP is trying to make a LFSync list then add me to it if you want, I play a lot less in RA nowadays but if I'm free I'll come.

Nemo the Capitalist · Feb 02, 2008, 10:49 PM // 22:49

its called using ur head...

Cheap way to get it

But dont ppl think surivor via HFF is cheap as well to purists

same thing but pve rather than pvp

* food for thought*

Coloneh · Feb 02, 2008, 10:49 PM // 22:49

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Originally Posted by Onarik Amrak

It's just Guild Wars.

RA is not guild wars

zwei2stein · Feb 02, 2008, 10:53 PM // 22:53

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Originally Posted by RhanoctJocosa

Ok, I'll continue cheating in RA, and will continue to gain gladiator points, roll bad teams and have fun while doing it. You can continue crying on guru about a "problem" that's been around since the beginning of RA, and let everyone know how bad you are.

True, but TA is in a terrible state atm which means many people sync RA to enjoy the 4v4 format.

If you want to just roll bad teams while gaining some points, go PvE.

If enjoying 4vs4 format means rolling nubs instead of facing competition on level, again, PvE is opening its welcoming arms. you for sure would be better fit for that gameplay.

Isileth · Feb 02, 2008, 10:54 PM // 22:54

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Originally Posted by RhanoctJocosa

Does the EULA forbid syncing in RA? No. So it's not cheating.

Well you said yourself it was cheating.
Besides the EULA does mention using exploits, synching is exploiting the system to get a non random team into RA.

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Originally Posted by RhanoctJocosa

Also, I don't know what district you play in, but in ID is full of good players, and just because you sync doesn't mean you'll automatically get 10 wins.

Having a 10 second headstart in a race doesnt mean you will always win either, but its a damn good advantage.

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Originally Posted by RhanoctJocosa

People sync, people have fun, people get glad points. Cry about it all you want, nothing's going to change.

At the expense of the players on the other team.
Why do you feel that is ok?

Your having fun so its fine right? Screw the other people who are playing the game.

Solange · Feb 02, 2008, 11:01 PM // 23:01

the point of the thread was to get attention to it, get peoples thoughts about whats going on in this area of the game

Why call it random arena if its not random?

Why make new players have to get 5 wins in a row to unlock team arenas and other parts of the PVP island if they have to deal with unfair play like this to try to move on and get better? - New guild wars players might move on but not in the sense of bettering their guild wars pvp skills...maybe to world of warcraft - what happens to guild wars if no new blood refreshes the pvp community?

And its funny how you even call it cheating yet go along and justify it to say its not against the EULA and are proud of what you are doing, seeing you come on here and brag about what you're doing it makes me feel why bother going into this area...

Random Arena is the ONLY pvp area in the game where you get into a game this fast without having to setup a team...but you obviously do setup teams so...whatever

Games rely on fair play or there is no game at all

RhanoctJocosa · Feb 02, 2008, 11:12 PM // 23:12

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Originally Posted by Isileth

Well you said yourself it was cheating.
Besides the EULA does mention using exploits, synching is exploiting the system to get a non random team into RA.

Having a 10 second headstart in a race doesnt mean you will always win either, but its a damn good advantage.

At the expense of the players on the other team.
Why do you feel that is ok?

Your having fun so its fine right? Screw the other people who are playing the game.

This whole post is just a whine, but I'd like to know where I said it was cheating.

yesitsrob · Feb 02, 2008, 11:14 PM // 23:14

I think actually the state of TA is one of the reasons why people might synch a lot. TA is just a cess pool of faggotry really. With the game not being balanced for 4v4 some TA gimmicks are quite strong, or at least more-so than HA/GVG gimmicks are. It's less obvious in a way because well, a lot of the people that run said gimmicks are really bad. Even if you don't lose to gimmicks much, I personally don't with a friends list groups, (they do tend to kill RA group streaks though) they are just immensely unfun to face and there is no shortage of them.

TA is just organized RA, but you can organise it to an extent that you can run some really really dull shit and a lot of people do that - Personally I don't like facing some shit guilds running 3 paragons and a monk or 4 ritualists or some boring shove monk spike.

So yes, as long as TA is completely crap. Then syching RA sounds kinda fun for some grab and go pvp with a friend.

Solange · Feb 02, 2008, 11:16 PM // 23:16

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Originally Posted by RhanoctJocosa

This whole post is just a whine, but I'd like to know where I said it was cheating.

you edit your post so i can't

I pwnd U · Feb 02, 2008, 11:24 PM // 23:24

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Originally Posted by Solange

you edit your post so i can't

He edited his post 3 minutes after posting it and almost 30 mins before being told he said it was cheating. Sorry, but I highly doubt he took out the words that said it was cheating. No way he would of had that foresight.

It's RA, yes it's suppose to be random but there have been many times when I have been RA'ing along with a couple of other guildies. And yes I have randomly got another 1 or 2 guildmates on my team because it was a slow hour. We weren't syncing, just playing RA for fun. It happens sometimes. Yes syncing is a way to kinda get around the system and have a better chance to win but it's nothing new. I have seen plenty of RA teams that have got a great spread of professions and none of them had the same tag. It happens. I have been on a random team that beat a sync team. Just because you sync doesn't mean you get an auto-10 win streak.