Curse

Ctb · Feb 07, 2008, 04:50 PM // 16:50

I read the op's comment and didn't bother to read the rest.

I'd have agreed to some extent with the silliness of banning the word if op hadn't gone onto a weird tangent about promoting homophobia.

Op, you fail. Hard.

Also, Ryker is in the thread so it's about to close, I imagine.

Pyrea · Feb 07, 2008, 04:50 PM // 16:50

It just goes to show you how people get offended at any thing. Are people really that insecure?

If someone insulted me, my family, my planet, my shoes, my clothes SO WHAT! At the end of the day everyone should be entitled to their own opinion, even if that opinion is racist, hateful or what-not.

If I came across a character or a real person for that matter whose name was I hate "X" or Homos R Us or Hitler is Gr8 or Kill this and that, I mean who cares? In fact those people are doing the rest of us a huge favour by showing their mindset.

Sometimes it makes me giggle that a string of letters numbers or sounds can tick people of, lol.

Anyway, thats my penny's worth...

Tyla · Feb 07, 2008, 04:52 PM // 16:52

Pyrea, people aren't as thick skinned as you.
Some people easily get offended.

Horace The Great · Feb 07, 2008, 04:54 PM // 16:54

Cause if those words are allowed people are going to abuse it, that is why. And "the hetero words" are allowed cause people don't abuse it.

Ctb · Feb 07, 2008, 05:06 PM // 17:06

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At the end of the day everyone should be entitled to their own opinion, even if that opinion is racist, hateful or what-not.

No, they shouldn't. Not in a commercial product.

ANET's bottom line is all that should matter to ANET in making the decision, and if ANET thinks that ANET will lose more money by allowing certain types of speech than by banning it, then ANET should ban those types of speech.

Pyrea · Feb 07, 2008, 05:11 PM // 17:11

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Originally Posted by tyla salanari

Pyrea, people aren't as thick skinned as you.
Some people easily get offended.

Hi dude

I agree with you. I suppose looking back years, I used to get offended at stuff, although now the only opinion that really counts is my own, as I cannot speak for anyone else ^ ^

Zahr Dalsk · Feb 07, 2008, 05:12 PM // 17:12

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Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief

See those symbols at the beginning? They are not Swastika.... They are reverse of the symbol. Those are Tibetan peace symbols.

At the same time, I've seen the same horizontal version used by a Nazi who ran around with those symbols saying 'Jews die in the gas chamber' in HA ID1.

A bunch of us from the American servers gathered together and spammed 'Nazis die at Normandy' back at him, since there wasn't really anything else we could do.

Ctb · Feb 07, 2008, 05:15 PM // 17:15

You could have put him on ignore instead of giving him exactly what he wanted...

Zahr Dalsk · Feb 07, 2008, 05:18 PM // 17:18

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Originally Posted by Ctb

You could have put him on ignore instead of giving him exactly what he wanted...

We were actually mildly suspicious it was either a bot or asian, since it simply repeated the same thing over and over without actually doing anything else. It was more for the benefit of the general population there.

Commander Ryker · Feb 07, 2008, 05:40 PM // 17:40

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Originally Posted by Ctb

Also, Ryker is in the thread so it's about to close, I imagine.

I don't close every thread, you wound me with your accusations.

This is actually a good discussion and I have no plans of closing. I will however delete non-contributing, idiotic comments.

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Originally Posted by Ctb

No, they shouldn't. Not in a commercial product.

ANET's bottom line is all that should matter to ANET in making the decision, and if ANET thinks that ANET will lose more money by allowing certain types of speech than by banning it, then ANET should ban those types of speech.

Exactly. It's anet's property and they can do what ever they want.

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Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk

At the same time, I've seen the same horizontal version used by a Nazi who ran around with those symbols saying 'Jews die in the gas chamber' in HA ID1.

A bunch of us from the American servers gathered together and spammed 'Nazis die at Normandy' back at him, since there wasn't really anything else we could do.

That made you no better than them. You sank to their level. They do it to get a reaction. If you don't react, they quit because it's no fun.

[Morkai] · Feb 07, 2008, 06:03 PM // 18:03

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Originally Posted by Commander Ryker

That made you no better than them. You sank to their level. They do it to get a reaction. If you don't react, they quit because it's no fun.

Yah you what Ryker is saying is, you just fed the trolls :/

Tachyon · Feb 07, 2008, 06:11 PM // 18:11

...and the cretins who implemented this pathetic attempt at censorship won't allow me to name my pet Tiger "Bagpuss" after one of the greatest childrens TV characters ever!

The reason? Apparently it's an obscene name! What sort of complete moron deems Bagpuss to be obscene?

Divinus Stella · Feb 07, 2008, 06:21 PM // 18:21

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Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief

See those symbols at the beginning? They are not Swastika.... They are reverse of the symbol. Those are Tibetan peace symbols.

It is actually a swastika, theres variations of the symbol and meaning, but its called a swastika.

My point wasnt the fact that they are allowed to use the symbol itself, i couldnt care less about that, but they can have names without spaces and contain numbers and unicode symbols. but we have to stick to the Latin alphabet, which seems unfair, especially for Europeans as a lot of countries have their own alphabets.

TGgold · Feb 07, 2008, 06:21 PM // 18:21

I, for the most part, agree with the OP.

It's a stretch to say "promoting" homophobia, but...they are. By banning certain words, they confirm the negative connotation they've come to have. In this case, ANET is saying "HOMO" or "GAY" is a bad word, and in turn, they only further the cycle of discrimination.

I think I'll start making characters now like...a Ritualist: "Heteros are Gross" or a Warrior: "Garth Straight Basher"

The Way Out · Feb 07, 2008, 06:31 PM // 18:31

Homo is a derogatory word, bro. It is being blocked because it is coded to be blocked. Why create a thread knowing this? There wasn't some guy at anet that thought, hey, let's block homo sapient because it has the word homo in it. They code it so retards don't try to shock you with their racy wit... Homo Erectus, Homo Momo, Leet Homo, I M Homo, etc...

Blame the retarded people out there who use a derogatory word and try to incite people. They are the same people that work at your local McDonalds in their later years and still smell their own farts.

Keep the name blocked and move on. I have better things to be pissed at anet for.

tmr819 · Feb 07, 2008, 06:36 PM // 18:36

Here's hoping GW2 is 100% instanced (or offers a 100% instanced option). Then no one will be around to offend or be offended by anything.

Truthfully, Anet has every right to censor as they please; they are doing their level best (within reason) to keep players from being offensive to one another. As for the OP's original post, had it not ended with such a silly conclusion, your point would have been much stronger.

I think Anet did -- and has done -- the best thing in this situation.

kartmaster · Feb 07, 2008, 06:40 PM // 18:40

Heck, I think "Hetero Sapiens" is a funnier name anyway!

English Warrior · Feb 07, 2008, 06:44 PM // 18:44

There are too many things that are counted as unacceptable in GW names i bet if you called yourself The Black Snake people would say your racist, every1 person would reports someones name for being unacceptable as that person would.If you cant get the name you want just think up another.

Stoneys Rock · Feb 07, 2008, 06:47 PM // 18:47

I think the name thing really needs updating I mean you can't use names like mindburner but I've seen people with full on something to the effect of "mohammed muslim jihad" and that is offensive to more than just a few people so other than make words usable I think they should get around to updating it.

Kusandaa · Feb 07, 2008, 06:49 PM // 18:49

I'm gay, and I'm more likely to be offended at the N-word being used negatively than "gay" or "homo". I'll just get annoyed, tell you that I'm far from being stupid and move on with whatever I was doing. Hell, every now and then I get someone apologizing to me... which, TBH, is surprising.

I'll get offended if you knew me before, learn I'm gay and start hating me because of it. And I've had it happen a couple times. If I was Black, I'd react the same if someone suddenly hated me for being Black... because I don't feel the need to hate anyone because they belong to whichever country/religion/sexual orientation/etc etc. The person in front of me hasn't changed in 2 seconds from "team member" to "evil <insert what you want here> guy/gal", therefore no need for it.

If I "hate" you, it's not because of anything along the lines of your personal life. If you're an idiot, no matter if you're gay, straight, bisexual, Black, Asian... I'll still view you as an idiot.

EDIT: on topic now... after my huge rant... lol...

It'd depend of the use IMHO, take case by case as it's been done already I guess. Problem is you can never really tell someone's intention behind their monitor. "I M Gay" for me would just be telling the truth. For the next guy, it might mean that I'm gonna act like an idiot just to give gays a bad name. "The Black Snake"... sounds to me it's a black snake. I don't think about "Black" based on skin color - but the color itself.

Such things really of someone's cultural background, when you think of it. Can't make exceptions for everything. "Dupek" means "a-hole" in Polish, and I've seen a couple "offensive"/childish IGNs in French that makes me think "if they ban the English version of it, why in French or any other language". But it's rather hard to control, I can understand that.