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hurric · Feb 04, 2008, 07:12 PM // 19:12

Other than DoA I really don't see why any of the 10 professions cannot run any elite areas and I say DoA because ursan cuts the time required to do it by a huge margin.
if any thing Ritualists and paragons are the overpowered classes which provide party heal/damage/support through channeling and restoration skills and paragons through motivation and command along with their high damage.

it just shows ignorance of group if people say these professions are weak.

I ran UB on my Rit for DoA for a while but I quit it because it's just too boring. I would run my Rit or para in DoA but there's no non-ursan groups there.Any other elite areas can be run with almost any profession combination.

my vote goes for sin as least sought after profession in pve because seriously bad sins are just too bad and die before you know it.

Tyla · Feb 04, 2008, 07:13 PM // 19:13

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Originally Posted by Razz Thom

pretty sure considering me and a friend from another guild were trying something new with just 2 of us and some heros + nobody was really on last night (Superbowl

). but i am tired of arguing about a tactic i don't even use, so in summation i will just say that the advent of Ursan has made very many disenfranchised players happy again, giving those with skill- a chance to go to areas they may otherwise have never accessed. surely this added happiness in a large chunk of the player base can't be looked upon as a bad thing as it has brought even some players who had left the game back to tyria (if only to gripe about Ursan itself). That is all and if you still want to argue, someone else will have to take over for me. (my lunch break is over.)

Lolwut?
Ursan....Skill?
You're confused, mate.

Razz Thom · Feb 04, 2008, 07:17 PM // 19:17

i said skill- (as in skill minus) (AKA lack of)

EinherjarMx · Feb 04, 2008, 07:23 PM // 19:23

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Originally Posted by MithranArkanere

Cracked Armor+Weakness+Blindness+Epidemic=Laught at melee mobs.
I bring an AirMeser Vekk when facing Destroyers or Golems. Works wonders.

Bringing down almost any foe to a caster (or less tan 100) armor level is priceless, aoe dmg is more effectie after that

roshanabey2 · Feb 04, 2008, 07:34 PM // 19:34

paragons have been mentioned a lot and personaly I think they are the only good thing that came out of Nightfall, dervishes killed pugs, paragon saved them, their sole purpose is to pug, look at their attributes.

buzzerman · Feb 04, 2008, 07:40 PM // 19:40

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Originally Posted by I pwnd U

I have never used a Blessing outside of the quest that actually require them. I run balanced when I do elite areas or any other area for that matter. Does that make me a elite-ego player?

Not at all, I am with you here, I play the same way (mostly because I hate to grind for r7+ Norn rank

). I was talking about those players who not only consider themselves too "leet" to rely on the power of button-mashing Ursan in elite areas, but more importantly, they desperately ask for a Ursan nerf because their ego is sooo bleeding nowadays seeing how Ursan gives other "non-elite" players access to such areas..

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Some players are not as skilled as others, so they run UB, which makes the game fairly easy. Some players are skilled enough to run normal builds and succeed but maybe they like to use UB. Fine their choice, we shouldn't tell them otherwise.

I fully agree.

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UB is a skill that anyone can use (button mashing) but no one is forced to use it.

Exactly my point. Now the OP was unfortunately adding to that elite-ego bleeding chorus by complaining how stupid PuGs (yeah that could be 90% of them..) demand Ursan now.. Well, they may demand it, but cannot force you to play Ursan if you don't want to.

So my response to the OP is along these lines: just don't play with such close-minded PuGs.. Have patience and look for "balanced" groups, you'll find them. Meanwhile, if you really have nothing else to do in game, you can also grind to raise your Norn rank so you can get into those cheap PuGs too

. Either way you'll find your way in eventually..

Tyla · Feb 04, 2008, 07:41 PM // 19:41

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Originally Posted by Razz Thom

i said skill- (as in skill minus) (AKA lack of)

Playing Ursan Blessing wouldn't help them get better, either way.

roshanabey2 · Feb 04, 2008, 07:51 PM // 19:51

What is up with the guild wars community, are we all a bunch of communists! Yes the whole point of guild wars is that we all start equal and it doesn't depend on grind, but what is the point of any multiplayer game or any real life game if everyone is always equal. You start off equal and then start making something out of yourself. There is no point of any game if everyone is of the same skill level, if that was the case there would be no sport on T.V, because everyone can do it anyway!!!
All Ursan has done is let any idiot button bash and still clear UW, and no I am not being elitist, I am very average player who has just about earned 100k.
I just have sense.
You lot complain about farming being too hard, Anet change it, and then complain that ecto, rare skin prices have fallen, for f*cks sake, no wonder Anet never get it right.

Razz Thom · Feb 04, 2008, 07:59 PM // 19:59

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Originally Posted by tyla salanari

Playing Ursan Blessing wouldn't help them get better, either way.

Who gives a S**T? Screw em. Let em stay bad if it makes them happy. It really isn't your business.

forgot to say.... the unskilled doorknobs who think warriors and mending are a good combo bought GW just like those with the capacity to learn. they should be entitled to enjoy their money too.

deadlynoob · Feb 04, 2008, 08:22 PM // 20:22

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Originally Posted by tyla salanari

Playing Ursan Blessing wouldn't help them get better, either way.

i wonder how many times you used this argument lol

Racthoh · Feb 04, 2008, 09:02 PM // 21:02

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Originally Posted by deadlynoob

i wonder how many times you used this argument lol

It's rather hard to notice if a player is getting better when Ursan reduces your options to KD stuff, yell, run fast, and do some damage.

Lagg · Feb 04, 2008, 09:24 PM // 21:24

Buff Kurzick/Luxon and Sunspear skills of unwanted professions to compete with Ursan Blessing.

Buff Kurzick/Luxon and Sunspear skills of unwanted professions to compete with Ursan Blessing.

Buff Kurzick/Luxon and Sunspear skills of unwanted professions to compete with Ursan Blessing.

Don't mind me, I'm just droning on my mantra.

Antheus · Feb 04, 2008, 10:01 PM // 22:01

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Originally Posted by Lagg

Buff Kurzick/Luxon and Sunspear skills of unwanted professions to compete with Ursan Blessing.

Buff Kurzick/Luxon and Sunspear skills of unwanted professions to compete with Ursan Blessing.

Buff Kurzick/Luxon and Sunspear skills of unwanted professions to compete with Ursan Blessing.

Since many people are still convinced that bonder is better than SY and TNTF, it wouldn't change anything...

Lagg · Feb 04, 2008, 10:49 PM // 22:49

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Originally Posted by Antheus

Since many people are still convinced that bonder is better than SY and TNTF, it wouldn't change anything...

Well, TNTF has a downtime since it got nerfed, meaning you need at least two Paras to keep it up permanently. And in the tank-nuke-heal mentality, you only really need to prot the tank, not the whole party, so why bother?

Truth is, I loved tank-nuke-heal. When done correctly, it was powerful, efficient, fun to play and still challenging in Elite areas.

Ursanway has killed this. Overpowered craziness that gets boring real fast.

If Anet really wanted to innovate, they could've made some of the least wanted professions in PvE (such as Mesmer) more powerful by giving them godlike PvE skills, instead of forcing them to play carebear.

Martin Alvito · Feb 04, 2008, 11:16 PM // 23:16

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Originally Posted by Lagg

Buff Kurzick/Luxon and Sunspear skills of unwanted professions to compete with Ursan Blessing.

Buff Kurzick/Luxon and Sunspear skills of unwanted professions to compete with Ursan Blessing.

Buff Kurzick/Luxon and Sunspear skills of unwanted professions to compete with Ursan Blessing.

The vast majority of the faction and Sunspear skills are hacks already. What more do you want?

"Power Word, Kill": Shout, 5 energy, 1 recharge
Target monster of level 28 or less dies instantly.

The problem is that UB is overpowered, NOT that other skills are underpowered. You fix the meta by fixing the one overpowered skill, not by buffing tons of skills in order for them to compete with UB.

RedNova88 · Feb 05, 2008, 12:00 AM // 00:00

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Originally Posted by Martin Alvito

The vast majority of the faction and Sunspear skills are hacks already. What more do you want?

"Power Word, Kill": Shout, 5 energy, 1 recharge
Target monster of level 28 or less dies instantly.

The problem is that UB is overpowered, NOT that other skills are underpowered. You fix the meta by fixing the one overpowered skill, not by buffing tons of skills in order for them to compete with UB.

Exactly. IMO UB should have stayed in that one mission, or brought back in different missions like the Wurms in NF. The sad thing about all of this is that it's becoming more frequent that if you do not have UB or refuse to use it people will refuse to group with you...

enter_the_zone · Feb 05, 2008, 12:26 AM // 00:26

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Originally Posted by RedNova88

Exactly. IMO UB should have stayed in that one mission, or brought back in different missions like the Wurms in NF. The sad thing about all of this is that it's becoming more frequent that if you do not have UB or refuse to use it people will refuse to group with you...

And now those of you who perpetrated the "holy triumvirate" can all feel the pain of those of us whom are mesmers, rangers and other scorned classes as our primary character.

My heart bleeds for your loss, truly, it does.

Of course, no one here ever played the triumvirate either, oh no, not at all...
And, of course, a mesmer was always welcome in all of your pugs too.

Can a mod please close this topic? After all, this has already been done to death in about 10 other threads.

garethporlest18 · Feb 05, 2008, 12:40 AM // 00:40

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Originally Posted by Lagg

Well, TNTF has a downtime since it got nerfed, meaning you need at least two Paras to keep it up permanently. And in the tank-nuke-heal mentality, you only really need to prot the tank, not the whole party, so why bother?

Truth is, I loved tank-nuke-heal. When done correctly, it was powerful, efficient, fun to play and still challenging in Elite areas.

But lacks skill. No one is gonna make me believe that bonding and tanking in PvE takes skill cause it doesn't. Hence why I'll ruin the tanks aggro to show you how bad you guys really do suck. Also another reason not to tank is a lot of pugs will get in the aggro bubble and then the tank is useless where as an attacking warrior wouldn't be.

Also the Ghostly Hero doesn't move if you take the quest when you start FoW, at least not anymore, only after you kill the first Abyssal group on the southernmost/westernmost side.

Also my friend and his friend can do FoW on HM with 2 sins, using sin skills and no Shadow Form. With H/H. They charge to do it actually so yeah Sins' don't suck.

Anet needs to nerf the stickler groups so that people have to think outside the box for once.

Bryant Again · Feb 05, 2008, 01:55 AM // 01:55

Make it so enemies will at random moments just run around a bit behind the tank, getting in other people's aggro bubbles. That should be fun : )

Nemo the Capitalist · Feb 05, 2008, 01:57 AM // 01:57

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Originally Posted by aapo

AAAAAaaaaaAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaa aaaaaaRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH H!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh my ****ing goodness you are ******. Why on the bloody hell do you want to join Ursanway group without Ursan Blessing? And like when group asks for Monk do you get your wammo and start argumenting that "it's like a monk just W primary, I got 8 healing skills"? Start your own noob group for profession viability. Chances are, not many people want to join. Why's that? Because PUGs SUCK and people usually want to get STUFF DONE and NOT FAIL.

Why do you feel the need to use expletives