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Navaros · Feb 01, 2008, 12:30 AM // 00:30

I disagree with the premise of the original post.

It is very possible in GW to meet friends or Guildies by coming across one or two good players at a time and making a full party with them and 5 or 6 Heroes. Which is not a traditional PUG by any stretch. And playing in traditional 8 man PUGs is definitely not ever required to amass friends with this method.

2 good players and 6 Heroes are a million times better than almost any PUG. So unless the definition of PUG changes to "2 men and 6 Heroes equals a PUG", then the idea that PUGs are necessary to meet friends/Guildies is incorrect.

Turtle222 · Feb 01, 2008, 12:46 AM // 00:46

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Mr. Undisclosed · Feb 01, 2008, 12:54 AM // 00:54

Everyone starts out somewhere, you use pugs until to find some good ones. Then you inquire about their guilds and if it sounds interesting. Theres also guild advertisements in local all the time, I would have thought that to be the most obvious answer...

angmar_nite · Feb 01, 2008, 01:16 AM // 01:16

first guild was a shitty random pug guild. Then I joinned SNOW years ago before they became the 100 man elite PVE juggernaut they are today. Then I needed a change of scenery and seeing as TAM recently left our alliance, I joined them.

[DE] · Feb 01, 2008, 02:37 AM // 02:37

I've only been in a few guilds but the progression seemed to happen like...

RL friends -> Met New Guy -> New Guy introduced me to a guild leader -> Joined that guild -> Drama -> joined guild in alliance -> split guild to form a new guild with friends from the former guild

Age · Feb 01, 2008, 02:40 AM // 02:40

I go to early spots in the game and try to help others with a quest or 2.I ask if they would like to join a friendly guild like mine which we are.I find it will be getting harder.

Curse You · Feb 01, 2008, 02:46 AM // 02:46

I met my Guild Leader before he began playing Guild Wars. We both belonged to the same clan based around another game. When I started playing Guild Wars, I naturally decided to join his guild.

itsvictor · Feb 01, 2008, 02:47 AM // 02:47

The pugs that worked(some are on my friends list) and when i got some random invites to guilds as i was guildless...... randomly chatting with people then getting into their guild...It all works out fine, but pugs really do play bad....nowadays atleast where bar pinging is so easy ^-^

NecroticChanter · Feb 01, 2008, 02:48 AM // 02:48

Well, when people first join the game they will pugs so that's why they are noobs. Once a player has gone through the game once, I doubt they would wanna PuG again. That's why no1 PuGs...I for one don't wanna party with noobs...

Martin Alvito · Feb 01, 2008, 02:57 AM // 02:57

First guild: Sorrow's Furnace farming with some PvE types, scooped up as a PUG player by a regular farming team.

After that: networking. You get invited to a regular HA group and do your job(s) well, a player that fills in sometimes invites you to a (better) group that he/she regularly plays with, etc. You get to know people well and eventually get guild invites, which you accept or decline.

Works the same way in PvE; there is less mingling between guilds, but you still play with other peoples' friends from other guilds if you play in areas with a lot of traffic (Deep when popular, DoA, FoW, UW).

PUG players fail as a rule, but there is variance. Groups running a PUG player or two can still succeed; you can tolerate more PUG players than that in PvE.

Groups that are comprised entirely of PUGs almost always result in epic failure.

knoll · Feb 01, 2008, 03:12 AM // 03:12

I saw Kris' epic FoW spider build and new I must be in an epic guild.

Eviance · Feb 01, 2008, 03:27 AM // 03:27

A good chunk of our guild was founded/made by people we knew from a fan forum for author Terry Goodkind. It was a holding guild when we left our old guild due to "inactivity" >_> Yeah, thats what we will call it...
<_<
So we made our guild, told our forum friends, they hauled a$$ from their guilds or became guilded for the first time since getting the game....

They brought guildies with them and some liked to pug... Then it was the forums and such... A few small guilds were consumed by us. We just, grew!

**cosyfiep** · Feb 01, 2008, 05:33 AM // 05:33

well I knew the guild leader since I married his brother, and since then his computer died (over 1 year now) and my spouse is guild leader....I am the only member

....
and since our guild is sooo small (and my spouse doesnt play as much as I do), I do LOTS of pugging.....missions that I have problems doing with h/h I get pugs to do with me. Never have had an invite from another guild---gee I guess .........nevermind

Kha · Feb 01, 2008, 06:14 AM // 06:14

First guild I joined I met in HoH. I happened to get a spot in their guild group, we held HoH for a while, and they invited me to join the guild as one of their lead rangers.

Second guild was from a random invite in HzH. Ended up hitting it off with the members and stuck with them for a while. Made a close friend in it who kind of was like an ambassador for another guild in the alliance. When he left to join his original/real guild, I followed. Then we left that guild because the leader decided to let it die out, and a friend of ours created the one we're in today.

BenjZee · Feb 01, 2008, 11:25 AM // 11:25

day before this topic was created i was speaking to my guildies about the same thing. we were planning a hm fow run and i sed, we could always pick up a player whilst there. they said how they hate PUGs and never do them.

then i said how they would never of found me if they didnt

their reply "well..um..you were different"
i sed "yep, you needed a hb monk for mallyx and there happened to be none about".....
Them "exactly"
me "well i feel special ..."

$neekie · Feb 01, 2008, 11:47 AM // 11:47

First of PUGs are fun(outside leavers), just go with the flow.........wanna do a mission with 4 sins,3 ele s and/or whatever...................lets try, im always game. Just dont talk elitist crap and blame anybody for anything and dont tell me what to do............advice ok, but explain.

And guilds, i was in 1 for 3 days......to much bla bla. So i left....

mzzls

Rushin Roulette · Feb 01, 2008, 11:59 AM // 11:59

Met my guildies in our CSS/HL2DM clans {NIC} and [Nemesis](first clans I joined, and im still in both).
One of the members Decided to create a GW guild with his GF and posted pics of the game in our forums. Afer a while I decided to test the game after seeing him play this wierd RPG game the whole time in xfire inmstead of joining us in CSS. One year and a bit later, were still all together and joined together with a few other PvE guilds in an alliance. And Ive joined the circles of GW-players anonymous

the_jos · Feb 01, 2008, 12:13 PM // 12:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sergeant Miyagi

From earlier quote: "Who is SNOW? Must not be that much of a juggernaut....."
I had the exact same question...

Never heard of that one either...
Something tells me they aren't as leet as your making them out to be.

When you joined a small guild and it grew to full membership over time, you could call it a juggernaut.
Full guilds with some turnover function very different from guilds where everyone knows each other personal.

And what makes a PvE guild 'leet'?
There are so many guilds with so many different focus points that it's hard to say who's leet and who's not.

Perynne · Feb 01, 2008, 02:22 PM // 14:22

My first guild consisted of my family and friends, with some random invites to people that we pugged with. Mostly we played together, but sometimes if someone showed good playing skill in a pug, or seemed like a nice person looking for a guild, we'd invite them.

After that guild became rather inactive, I joined a new guild through a friend I'd met on the forums here. I drew a commission for him, and we kept in touch even afterwards with me joining their guild for occasional missions and vanquishes. So it was a natural choice to change over when the time came.

If, for any reason, I started looking for a new guild, I'd do it through friends or Guru. I don't trust random invites or pug groups - most of the guilds in GW seem rather haphazardly put together, and usually only the newest guilds without good, strong friendship bonds or know-how of the game are the ones spamming local for new members.

Jeremy Untouchable · Feb 01, 2008, 03:21 PM // 15:21

I joined a guild of RL buddys and stayed in that guild even went on to lead for quite some time. Most of my RL buddys quit playing and i went searching for a new guild. Found ZoS and plan to be there tell GW2 doth come. Amen.

On the subject of pugs. We recruit good players from pugs, Mostly pvp pugs as my guildys Heros tend to be better then PVE pugs anyday. Hero with full runes and sup vigor and a good build is a better choice then 90% of pve pugs.

btw: Tam's wiki page makes me giggle. Funny stuff..