Curse

Lyonette · Feb 09, 2008, 02:31 PM // 14:31

I'd jus like to post my boycott of this said miniature celestial pig.
While I think it's adorable, I refuse to grovel, beg an pay outrageously inflated prices for miniature pigs just to have a shiny sparkly one.
Trading 3 pigs to get the celestial one would have been mildly acceptable, but the way this was handled isn't cool in my book.
Anet FTL on this respect I'm sorry to say.

Tyla · Feb 09, 2008, 02:40 PM // 14:40

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Originally Posted by Redfeather1975

And tyla salanari, I think Rahja is fooling himself. We didn't give away our mini pigs last year because we were saints. We gave them away because nobody would buy them and it was a waste to either trash them or take up space. There was no divine incentive in giving something worthless away.
Now they can be traded for a shinier version and people are pissed that they missed out on a shiny as a result. It's that simple and that trivial.

Well only got 3 minipigs - gave 2 away but if I knew about this I would of got enough without wasting my storage space.

reetkever · Feb 09, 2008, 02:41 PM // 14:41

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Originally Posted by Antithesis

This is the most sensible summary of the situation in this entire whinefest.

You people seem to be forgetting the outcry from the masses when piggies rained from the heavens at the end of last year's festival after many of us forked out 25K+ for the ugly litle oinker. A gold mini was supposed to be worth something and we almost couldn't give them away. If they were worth something at that time, would you have been so generous?

No, but that's not the point. The point is that they were NOT worth alot. Because of this alot of pigs were trashed and given away. And now, a YEAR later, some collector suddenly wants 5 of them.

Really, you can't expect ANYONE to have 5 or more pigs still in their already very limited storage space.

Besides, no matter how you put it, the mass rain of pigletts is still A-net's fault. It's also a fact that there is no use for having the same mini-pet twice, except for selling/giving away.

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Originally Posted by Antithesis

The answer from the responses in this thread is "Hell no! Not that they're actually worth something now!!!" or "I wasn't around last year, gimme my pig!" Your motivations are not philanthropic, they're driven by greed under the guise of 'fair play'. If you had truly given, expecting nothing in return, this debate would not be taking place.

I have never said I wanted my pigs back. I really don't expect anything in return. However, the people at A-net SHOULD realize that most people with more than 1 pig gave them away. They didn't realize this, however, and still think that we all have loads of pigs in our storage.

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Originally Posted by Antithesis

Conspiracies theories about feathering the nests of Anet's mates is completely baseless if not ludicrous. They are simply correcting the mistake they made last year by making a gold pet rare. The old mini-pig will now be rarer than the celestial, so it's killing two birds with one stone.

If they wanted to fix this mistake they should've done so last year, or at least warn us about it. They should NOT have waited a full year without ANY information at all. It's like giving someone a piece of paper and asking if he still has that piece of paper a year later.

Antithesis · Feb 09, 2008, 02:54 PM // 14:54

The reality is that pissing and moaning about it does nothing to resolve your problem. So you don't have 5 pigs...your ONLY recourse is to buy them.

If you want one badly enough quit complaining about it, get off your arse and solve the problem yourself. There are plenty of piglets available for around 15-25K. You could easily have farmed the 125K today to have the funds to buy the pigs to trade for a celestial.

Dralspire · Feb 09, 2008, 02:58 PM // 14:58

I am happy I gave away my minipets because I can do without the strong emotions every new minipet triggers in the community and the stress of keeping the collection complete.

Frankly, this game is not just about our possessions, it is about having fun. If we fail at having fun as a community, can we really place all the blame on Anet?

Malice Black · Feb 09, 2008, 03:00 PM // 15:00

Some people don't understand that Dral.

Turtle222 · Feb 09, 2008, 03:08 PM // 15:08

I do not have any woes, i have 1 mini pig. I am satisfied with it...why do you want a shiny piggie anyway? shiny rat is pretty much the same.

stop trying to disgrace Anet and enjoy the bloody game, look at the bright side for Togo's sake. never have i seen a gathering of my guild together to do the quests. We had 3 groups of 4 doing the q's simultaneously, and had loads of fun in dragon nest

Fay Vert · Feb 09, 2008, 03:08 PM // 15:08

I'm not complaining, I don't collect minis. I just LOL at the state of the game, and the funny logic that ANet comes up with.

Antithesis · Feb 09, 2008, 03:09 PM // 15:09

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Originally Posted by Dralspire

I am happy I gave away my minipets because I can do without the strong emotions every new minipet triggers in the community and the stress of keeping the collection complete.

Frankly, this game is not just about our possessions, it is about having fun. If we fail at having fun as a community, can we really place all the blame on Anet?

The single greatest desire of the human race is not to clothe the poor or feed the hungry. It's the desire for status...to pump one's chest out and think "i'm better than the next guy". Let's not kid ourselves, Anet feeds that desire with elite armour, rare weapon skins and titles to keep us interested in the game long-term.

For many people this is about possessions, to feel that the 4000 hours they've spent playing a computer game has not been a waste of time. Why else would the Hall of Monuments exist?

The ideal is just to have fun and i for one play the game for just that feeling. Collecting cool crap along the way doesn't hurt

Numa Pompilius · Feb 09, 2008, 03:39 PM // 15:39

Let me throw this out there, then:

ANet decided to intervene to increase the price of the minipig.

There can be two reasons for this:
1) There is an in-game problem with the minipig, but not with other cheap minipets, e.g. filling the HoM with gold minipets will screw up the GW2 minipet economy, or
2) ANet wanted to make some people with a lot of minipigs very rich.

If the answer is 2) that means ANet is corrupted.

If Anet is corrupted, what's to say that this is the last time they'll intervene to unfairly benefit their in-game pals? What's to say it's the first time they've done so? What's to say it's only in PvE?

Throws a new light on those weird rebalances, doesn't it?

That this was "only a minipet" is irrelevant. IMO ANet really need to explain WHY they did this.

Fay Vert · Feb 09, 2008, 03:43 PM // 15:43

3) They just didn't think

Stoneys Rock · Feb 09, 2008, 03:47 PM // 15:47

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Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius

Let me throw this out there, then:

2) ANet wanted to make some people with a lot of minipigs very rich.

If the answer is 2) that means ANet is corrupted.

If Anet is corrupted, what's to say that this is the last time they'll intervene to unfairly benefit their in-game pals? What's to say it's the first time they've done so? What's to say it's only in PvE?

Throws a new light on those weird rebalances, doesn't it?

thats a very active imagination you have. What do you mean by ingame pals anyway? None of that makes much sense tbh.

I Is Special · Feb 09, 2008, 03:48 PM // 15:48

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Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius

ANet decided to intervene to increase the price of the minipig.

There can be two reasons for this:
1) There is an in-game problem with the minipig, but not with other cheap minipets, e.g. filling the HoM with gold minipets will screw up the GW2 minipet economy, or
2) ANet wanted to make some people with a lot of minipigs very rich.

That this was "only a minipet" is irrelevant. IMO ANet really need to explain WHY they did this.

Ok, you're kind of blowing this out of proportion. They chose the mini pig because it was what we got during the last canthan new year. They also probably just want to decrease the amount of them in the game because everyone and their mothers got a crap load of them from the Year of the pig festival.

And the fact that its "only a minipet" is very relevant. It is JUST a minipet, no reason for everyone to get bent out of shape over it...

Numa Pompilius · Feb 09, 2008, 03:59 PM // 15:59

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Originally Posted by I Is Special

They also probably just want to decrease the amount of them in the game because everyone and their mothers got a crap load of them from the Year of the pig festival.

WHY. WOULD. THEY. CARE.
It's not up to ANet to micromanage the prices of every commodity traded between players, and they don't do so, they let the market decide the value of everything from Devourers to Kanaxais Axe.

But they DID decide to micromanage the price of this particular commodity, even though there was no apparent problem with it.

It's like, as someone pointed out, if the US government suddenly and for no apparent reason decided to buy enormous amounts of shares in a company, with the only motivation that the share was undervalued and needed to be made more expensive. It's quite appropriate to question behavior like this.

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Sasha Deson · Feb 09, 2008, 05:05 PM // 17:05

I'm not sure if anyone knew, or rembered thia but I think the two reasons they are doing the whole "5 pigs for a C pig" is becuase of the glitch that happned last year. The lunar fortunes were bugged at the begginging of the vent last year, making the mini pigs extremly common form the fortuens (this was fixed soon after), and the other reason I think they are doing it is because they made a normal pig. I don't think they planned ahead to the next year, and when they started to think about it, they realized that they would have to make a normal rat, a normal snake, a normal, dragon etc. So this year they made the C pig to correct the problem, and because they had become so common, due to the glitch and afkers 5 to them seemed pretty reasonible.

I persoanly love the C rat and I would love to the C pig, they stand out more then a normal rat or pig and pay better homage to the event.

I really hope, you understand what i'm trying to say, XP.

Jongo River · Feb 09, 2008, 05:19 PM // 17:19

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Originally Posted by Sasha Deson

the glitch that happned last year. The lunar fortunes were bugged at the begginging of the vent last year, making the mini pigs extremly common form the fortuens (this was fixed soon after)

Glitch my ass. It's called "bait and switch" - and they seem to have pulled the same thing this year. Make something seem easy for the first few, so they have a bunch of happy players walking around showing off the goods, then up the ante later. They did it in GW:EN too, when they made collector stuff seem easy to get during the preview (the glacial gaunlets).

ANet just want mindless obsessives grinding through their games now.

Gun Pierson · Feb 09, 2008, 06:37 PM // 18:37

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Originally Posted by Antithesis

They are simply correcting the mistake they made last year by making a gold pet rare. The old mini-pig will now be rarer than the celestial, so it's killing two birds with one stone.

I think that's indeed the reason why they did it. I still believe though making the mini pig a common white label would have been a better solution as it would not upset the community that much as now. People would think:'They made it white, yeah why not, it wasn't worth sh1t anyway and lots are around.'

They could have thrown in common white rats by large numbers too this year so poor people got at least a mini pet. The celestials (pig and rat) equal chance of rare drop by fortune cookies.

Anet listens to the comunity but something is missing, can't exactly describe it. It was a good idea to try to kill two birds with one rock, but poorly implemented. They need at least one person who sees the bigger picture.

Snow Bunny · Feb 09, 2008, 06:39 PM // 18:39

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Originally Posted by Redfeather1975

I think Rahja is fooling himself. We didn't give away our mini pigs last year because we were saints. We gave them away because nobody would buy them and it was a waste to either trash them or take up space. There was no divine incentive in giving something worthless away.
Now they can be traded for a shinier version and people are pissed that they missed out on a shiny as a result. It's that simple and that trivial.

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Kashrlyyk · Feb 09, 2008, 07:32 PM // 19:32

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Originally Posted by Redfeather1975

We didn't give away our mini pigs last year because we were saints. We gave them away because nobody would buy them and it was a waste to either trash them or take up space. ...

Please speak only for yourself.

Tyla · Feb 09, 2008, 07:34 PM // 19:34

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Originally Posted by Kashrlyyk

Please speak only for yourself.

He's got a point.
But it was stupidly distributed, we have to keep 5 minis for a year (taking up storage space, not only that but this wasn't, in the slightest determinable).