Curse

Wildi · Feb 15, 2008, 11:47 AM // 11:47

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Originally Posted by trobinson97

What's wrong with the price dropping?

nothing.

1-2 years ago where DoA was new and curse scepter & foci looked like shit, it was an okay price. Today with BMP weapons around there is no reason why tormented weapons should cost 100k 50e. 100k 15e is a more resonable price.

chief lazy horse · Feb 15, 2008, 12:25 PM // 12:25

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Originally Posted by Sub Frost

So ambraces are getting cheaper, and with this, more people have a change to get them...

Sorry can't see a problem there.

The people that have armbraces or tormneteds have a problem tho... Got mine for 100+17E last weekend

Cargan · Feb 15, 2008, 01:54 PM // 13:54

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Originally Posted by You just got tomahawked

There has to be a point where it's just not worth it.

The breaking point for me was the week after the SS/LB farming weekend. Ever since then every moron with maxed LB thinks they're pro in DoA. I really couldn't tolerate DoA pugs any longer, so at that point the enduring frustration wasn't worth the gold. Sure, 100k+30e (at that time) was a nice incentive, but there's definitely more pleasant ways to make money ingame.

Cargan

Solas · Feb 15, 2008, 02:35 PM // 14:35

Love tyhe way yer using ursan as a scape goat..-.-

1. Duping has caused worry among some buyers
2. Duping has defaced the image of tormented items
3. BMP skins
4.Eotn skins + its not supported in HoM
but yes ursan has increased the amont of people in DoA but it cannot souly be blamed, also some guilds claim they can do it same time/faster then ursan so there you go.

IslandHermet · Feb 15, 2008, 02:58 PM // 14:58

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Originally Posted by Chestnut

Isn't that a good thing though? honestly? Gives alot more people the shot at nice expensive looking equipment so we can look cool like the rest of you rich people.

And that is why he posted this people like (You just got tomahawked) do not want others to have what they want (he is a power-trader so his morals are all messed up) and he is angry that more and more people are getting the items (which makes no sense he prolly buys them to show off his E-penis not because he likes the items)

I buy a item because I looks good on my char or works well with that set of armor and things of that nature not because I want to show off but because I want my char to look good (im gonna be stairing at it for the entire time I am on so why not get something pretty to look at?)

its the same reason people pick male or female (as a man do you want to look at a mans ass all day?) or would you rather look at a womans? same for a female. it is all about choice.

Jetdoc · Feb 15, 2008, 03:23 PM // 15:23

I bought a Tormented Scythe a few months ago for a much higher price, but I still am thrilled that the price continues to drop on armbraces. Honestly, they were insanely overpriced to begin with, and this makes tormented weapons more affordable for everyone.

The only people that this truly hurts are the high, high end traders.

sterbenx2 · Feb 15, 2008, 03:24 PM // 15:24

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Originally Posted by trobinson97

So wrong, and I am really not surprised considering the source. Has the thought ever crossed your mind that some people get those things for the aesthetic and not some twisted form of pride? Playing dress up in a video game does not equate seeking one's self worth in a video game, which you guys are doing. I get a particular set of armor/weapons for one of my in game characters depending on how pleasing the artwork is to my eyes. You do it to be envied by others, and that's pretty pretty sad.

Haha, wow. That's not irony.

That's pretty awesome. Number 10 in 300? Color me impressed. Two sports? Nice. I am surprised that someone with so many real achievements can't see how whining about virtual achievement is silly. Takes all kinds I guess.

What is important or "valuable" to one may not be either or to another. You should learn something about human being and think before you set yourself up to made a fool.

You think virtual achievement is silly? Did you ever think that maybe what you would concider an achievement, someone else would concider silly? People have different intrests and values, this is what makes us all different, human. Maybe you'd be happier if we were all exactly the same, or just like you. Perhaps you should examine more closely what you said. It would seem, by your logic, that insulting and correcting people on a fan forum would be just as silly, as it seems that it makes you feel some sort of accomplishment by doing so.

cgruber · Feb 15, 2008, 03:25 PM // 15:25

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Originally Posted by Abedeus

What's funny, that other games have really good systems against duping. For example Diablo 2, where each item has an unique key assigned to it. All legal items have it, from keys and potions to rarest armors and runes. If there is an item with the same key as other key somewhere in the database, the Battle.net checks which one was created second and it deletes it.

Speaking as someone who used to dupe in D2 it's not that good. I literally made thousands of REAL dollars selling stuff on ebay back when I was in college.

Sparda · Feb 15, 2008, 03:28 PM // 15:28

Well i see no prob with price dropping it's a nice thing now more players can buy it.
And if you think it's unfair course you have a truckload of braces and you money drops below your ego though luck.
Sure i have my fair share of Tromented weapons i payed more for it in the early days well thats bad luck for me i choose to buy one that day bad luck for me if it drops in price IMO eneryone needs to have the change to get 1 or 2 in GW

Sparda · Feb 15, 2008, 05:06 PM // 17:06

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Originally Posted by Sparda

Well i see no prob with price dropping it's a nice thing now more players can buy it.
And if you think it's unfair course you have a truckload of braces and you money drops below your ego though luck.
Sure i have my fair share of Tromented weapons i payed more for it in the early days well thats bad luck for me i choose to buy one that day bad luck for me if it drops in price IMO eneryone needs to have the change to get 1 or 2 in GW

Just wanted to add something to my post.
Now you can see how greed lays waste to the game most people are more fixed on gold accumulation and want to become a capitalist.
And they do not play the game.

Hyper Cutter · Feb 15, 2008, 05:31 PM // 17:31

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Originally Posted by You just got tomahawked

It just gets me annoyed when something I worked at to buy for 100k+50 ecto is now worth 100k+ 15 ecto. Imagine buying a car for 50 grand and the next day your friend tells you he just bought it for 20 grand. You'd be pretty PO'd. I'm not whining I'm simpley expressing my frustration.

That's what always happens. New stuff costs a lot, but the price declines over time and later adopters end up paying less...

I bought a set of Vabbian when Rubies and Sapphires were 8k each, you don't see me complaining about them being cheaper now...

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Originally Posted by Lord Darksoul

This is what happens when ANet decides to make PvE only skills. They're almost all overpowered, and is ruining the economy. I seriously would've have been happier with worthless elites than this...

Almost all? Aside from Ursan, there's what? Pain Inverter and TNTF? Most PVE skills SUCK (just like most regular skills)...

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Originally Posted by Yichi

The economy was heading down the toilet long before these were introduced...

The economy never left the toilet in the first place...

Racthoh · Feb 15, 2008, 05:50 PM // 17:50

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Originally Posted by Hyper Cutter

Almost all? Aside from Ursan, there's what? Pain Inverter and TNTF? Most PVE skills SUCK (just like most regular skills)...

Finish Him!, You Move Like A Dwarf!, Great Dwarf Weapon, Technobabble, Save Yourselves!, Ebon Battle Standard of Honor, Eternal Aura, etc. Pain Inverter is basically Empathy, and becomes supercharged if your whole party likes to dance in AoE.

Shadowmoon · Feb 15, 2008, 06:02 PM // 18:02

Armbraces goin down in price is a good thing, i only wish they would go down faster. Why do i say this, because alot of the armbrace out there are duped. There are people out there who took avantage of the duping event, had there accoutn banned, then go them back. These people are the people who trading an asian mini for 1000+ armbraces, took the braces without asking does this make sence. This is why the high end market is corrupt. Only deflated armbrace prices will solve it. I only wish they would make armbraces unstackable so people can't horde them. If the 1000+ armbraces suddenly entered the market, the price would be worthless, making those who indirectly benefited form the duping be neutralized.

Bryant Again · Feb 15, 2008, 06:09 PM // 18:09

Rare items are indeed an interesting subject. Some believe that people should be entitled easy access to rare weapons and expensive armor because they serve no purpose besides vanity. Likewise, others believe that there should be no rush for the items for basically the same reasons ("it's all just looks, so why the hurry?")

I will say that many do feel a sense of achievement when acquiring a rare item or set of armor, and this applies to many games: It's why people went for all 120 star in Mario 64, why people play on harder difficulties (some like a challenge as well), and other tasks. Acquiring a sense of achievement has always been something valued by many in games. The situation with online games is that it has a broader affect.

Kusandaa · Feb 15, 2008, 06:17 PM // 18:17

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Originally Posted by Bryant Again

Rare items are indeed an interesting subject. Some believe that people should be entitled easy access to rare weapons and expensive armor because they serve no purpose besides vanity. Likewise, others believe that there should be no rush for the items for basically the same reasons ("it's all just looks, so why the hurry?")

I will say that many do feel a sense of achievement when acquiring a rare item or set of armor, and this applies to many games: It's why people went for all 120 star in Mario 64, why people play on harder difficulties (some like a challenge as well), and other tasks. Acquiring a sense of achievement has always been something valued by many in games. The situation with online games is that it has a broader affect.

I like expensive armor because my chars look good in it :P. About weapons, however, I don't need req7's and req8's - high reqs FTW for me. I do feel this sense of accomplishment when I finally get my hands on something, and I'm ready to pay the price on some items (mini Naga: 227e).

But as I was saying before, I don't buy to compete or to show-off (I won't buy a tormented weapon for the sake of buying one - I'll have to like the skin and it'll have to fit my character).

I have the feeling, however, some people are only seeing their item collections as pure cash (I bought armbrace at 100k+50e, now it's worth +15e, woe is me, I demand the value to stay the same). On the other hand, it's not everyone - some truly enjoy their collections, use them, and are happy with them no matter what their current value is.

Ouchie · Feb 15, 2008, 06:21 PM // 18:21

How often do people actually see your weapons to know how leet they are? My weapons are the ones I like the best or go the best with my characters armor.

I don't really care how much they go for.

Malice Black · Feb 15, 2008, 06:32 PM // 18:32

Prices will always drop on items that can be farmed.

Prime example = The guy who spendt the stupid amount of cash on that Eternal Blade, only for them to start dropping from the Z Chest. Of course he wasn't to know so many would pop up so quick (due to the chest, and people farming UW chest), but the simple fact is that item will always lose value.

Only items in this game to keep/gain value is the dumb mini-pets, req7 items and the last of the uncustomized no negs.

MirkoTeran · Feb 15, 2008, 06:37 PM // 18:37

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Originally Posted by Wildi

1-2 years ago where DoA was new and curse scepter & foci looked like shit, it was an okay price. Today with BMP weapons around there is no reason why tormented weapons should cost 100k 50e. 100k 15e is a more resonable price.

Since when was price of high-end items determined by looks in GW?

Well, the drop in price is hardly a shock to anyone. Apart for a few items out of reach of 'casual players' all items drop.

Kusandaa · Feb 15, 2008, 06:43 PM // 18:43

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Originally Posted by MirkoTeran

Since when was price of high-end items determined by looks in GW?

What looks "good" (to the masses), is rare. Eternal Blades, Crystalline Swords, Tormented weapons, Voltaic Spears, name it. If it's rare, it's expensive. Therefore, "good-looking" weapons are expensive... because they're rare, simple as that.

But we're talking about the mass here. People are ready to pay a lot for good-looking stuff in GW, or they whine that the in-game cost is too high...

stretchs · Feb 15, 2008, 06:45 PM // 18:45

Every item in the game will only decrease PERIOD. It is just the way of ANY online community, outside of 1 off items that are only in existence like the Polar Bear at the moment. Once and item can be infinitely dropped, the price goes down as the availability becomes greater, the price of Tormented's/Armbraces will continue to drop PERIOD. That is the way of online economies in games like this, yes certain things have caused its acceleration, Duping (no they were not all removed, anyone that thinks so is clearly delusional) as well as PVE skills. As there becomes less new content more people will try to attempt it as well. In the end, the people that whine about pricing of goods really dont understand the online economies of games. The prices start really high as they are new/rare, prices plateau once the newness wears off and the degree of rarity is set, then after the plateau takes it's course, time/farming/outside issues causes the prices to go down, its just the way of stuff. The friggin Circle of Lif..... err Circle of GW Economy