Curse

Age · Feb 15, 2008, 10:01 PM // 22:01

Who wants to go through those jungle misions agian and if it wasn't for wanting to beat your dopple to get ascended through all those desert ones?I would skip those as well.

You wouldn't see a lot of running if it wasn't a linear based game.

You can't see me · Feb 15, 2008, 11:20 PM // 23:20

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Originally Posted by CHannum

Not at all, I'd think it's pretty stupid to make another character if you don't actually have the interest in playing it.

I've got 10 characters, one of each profession, spread across all three campaigns. I play a little here, I play a little there. There is nothing in this game I've found that's so boring that it isn't still fun with a friend or two or a quick in and out H/H while I chat on TS.

Maybe all 10 will never see the end of each campaign before I'm tired of the game altogether, maybe I'll wind up with Legendary Protector for all 10, can't say either way at this point. But I can say that I'll never take the shortcut of having someone else play the game for me.

Playing through campaigns and getting titles is not the reason many people re-make characters. The Ten of my PvE characters exist for farming, and yes, I took runs a few times. Not in bulk, but a few places. Then I became skilled enough to run myself most of the time.

If the campaigns were more interesting to play through, than maybe there would not be runners.

anonymous · Feb 15, 2008, 11:25 PM // 23:25

Its like why don't you go to grade school first every day before going to high school/college? Its because you don't need to repeat easy stuff that you have already done. Grade school isn't particularly enjoyable so why should you go there even though you have already been through it?

StormDragonZ · Feb 15, 2008, 11:28 PM // 23:28

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Originally Posted by mr_groovy

Question for the Op though:

Do you ever bother replying in your own threads? Or do you only like starting them >.>. I'm not expecting any reply on this.

Not often do I like to respond to my own threads. However, with what I've read from responses, I can say I'm one of the few people who has enjoyed repeating the same things over and over and still find it worth doing.

When I beat a game once, and if I ever replay it, I go slower than normal. It's just how I am. I'm in no rush to get anything done.

You can't see me · Feb 15, 2008, 11:31 PM // 23:31

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Originally Posted by StormDragonZ

Not often do I like to respond to my own threads. However, with what I've read from responses, I can say I'm one of the few people who has enjoyed repeating the same things over and over and still find it worth doing.

When I beat a game once, and if I ever replay it, I go slower than normal. It's just how I am. I'm in no rush to get anything done.

But you must understand that not everyone shares your norm?

Tyla · Feb 15, 2008, 11:54 PM // 23:54

I shall quote the great borat...
"It's Nice!"
Runners are a convenience to people who don't want to complete the boring bits over and over.

Numa Pompilius · Feb 16, 2008, 12:53 AM // 00:53

I have full understanding that people on their sixth character don't feel like doing the tyrian jungle missions again. God knows I don't

I do not at all understand people who run their FIRST character, but hey, if they want to cheat themselves out of the gaming experience they paid $30 for, that's their own silly mistake.

Runners: I don't care.

LeoX · Feb 16, 2008, 01:05 AM // 01:05

I just get runs to get to farming spots for new farming characters i create.

And yeah it's okay with me to run your other characters around since you've been through the storyline already. I'm also okay with first character tbh, idm.

CHannum · Feb 16, 2008, 01:19 AM // 01:19

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Originally Posted by You can't see me

Playing through campaigns and getting titles is not the reason many people re-make characters. The Ten of my PvE characters exist for farming, and yes, I took runs a few times. Not in bulk, but a few places. Then I became skilled enough to run myself most of the time.

If the campaigns were more interesting to play through, than maybe there would not be runners.

Your post is a perfect example of why I don't get it and never will. The campaigns are most of what there is to this game. Prophecies is hands down the longest campaign to actually play through and I managed to get a character completely done with most bonuses in a week's worth of evenings. If I'd actually thought to myself that there was anything more worth spending my time on than playing those same missions again, I'd have been doing something other than GW.

Yes, it's nice that the game has meta goals in the form of titles, skill unlocks, item unlocks, etc., but ultimately you either like the game play or you really should have just picked up another game a while ago. When the only thing left is to spend your free time farming something that doesn't work an iota better than the stuff you had half way to Droks and only has value to other people who should have moved on to other games a year ago as well, you're playing a completely different game than me.

Even if the more meta goals are your thing, it is NOT a huge endeavor to actually play through them. If spending a week working towards something in a game is so awful that you can't possibly find any enjoyment in it, again, go do something else. GW has exhausted its value to you, you're just too hung up on chasing empty trinkets to notice it.

Ultimately, as I've pointed out in previous threads, it doesn't affect my game experience, so cest la vie, but I do figure anyone who gets/gives runs is probably someone who sees no problems with such shortcuts in real life and therefore no one I would likely ever want to be associated with. Being willing to put in a little work to achieve what you want is not something that should be dismissed as the dumb choice.

mr_groovy · Feb 16, 2008, 01:19 AM // 01:19

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Originally Posted by StormDragonZ

Not often do I like to respond to my own threads. .

What the? How can you start threads and don't respond on them your self.

Usually in threads an Op takes a statement, who then tries either to defend it or change his/ her opinion on it. Not replying in your own threads is Lame.

Why start a thread, if your not even interested in how other people exrpess their opinion on the matter?

You can't see me · Feb 16, 2008, 01:24 AM // 01:24

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Originally Posted by CHannum

Your post is a perfect example of why I don't get it and never will. The campaigns are most of what there is to this game. Prophecies is hands down the longest campaign to actually play through and I managed to get a character completely done with most bonuses in a week's worth of evenings. If I'd actually thought to myself that there was anything more worth spending my time on than playing those same missions again, I'd have been doing something other than GW.

Yes, it's nice that the game has meta goals in the form of titles, skill unlocks, item unlocks, etc., but ultimately you either like the game play or you really should have just picked up another game a while ago. When the only thing left is to spend your free time farming something that doesn't work an iota better than the stuff you had half way to Droks and only has value to other people who should have moved on to other games a year ago as well, you're playing a completely different game than me.

Even if the more meta goals are your thing, it is NOT a huge endeavor to actually play through them. If spending a week working towards something in a game is so awful that you can't possibly find any enjoyment in it, again, go do something else. GW has exhausted its value to you, you're just too hung up on chasing empty trinkets to notice it.

Ultimately, as I've pointed out in previous threads, it doesn't affect my game experience, so cest la vie, but I do figure anyone who gets/gives runs is probably someone who sees no problems with such shortcuts in real life and therefore no one I would likely ever want to be associated with. Being willing to put in a little work to achieve what you want is not something that should be dismissed as the dumb choice.

If I watch a movie, and I know that every time I get to the end, I'll get candy, then if I see the movie once, and can just fast foward and get to the candy that I enjoy more than the movie itself, as it was a bad movie, I'll naturally take the chance to Fast Foward.

I think you don't understand because you don't seem to know how little value is actually put in Campaign Style Playing in online games like Guild Wars.

Killed u man · Feb 16, 2008, 01:26 AM // 01:26

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Originally Posted by tyla salanari

I shall quote the great borat...
"It's Nice!"

Srry, but it's: "Ies Naise"

Srry for off-topic* (Runner have being discussed since day1 anyways

)

Operative 14 · Feb 16, 2008, 02:11 AM // 02:11

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Originally Posted by CHannum

Ultimately, as I've pointed out in previous threads, it doesn't affect my game experience, so cest la vie, but I do figure anyone who gets/gives runs is probably someone who sees no problems with such shortcuts in real life and therefore no one I would likely ever want to be associated with. Being willing to put in a little work to achieve what you want is not something that should be dismissed as the dumb choice.

Except that no one is dismissing it as the dumb choice...? The only people in this argument that throw language like that around are people who are adamantly against running. And in that respect, they throw much harsher language around actually.

And also I think it's a little unrealistic to say that how people choose to play through a game translates into their work ethic in life. The point of playing a game is to relax and unwind how you choose; if you do that by playing through all the missions thats fine, but not everyone enjoys doing so multiple times.

--- General Comment, not in response to anything---

I think the way to look at it is this; If someone wants to watch LotR: Return of the King, I doubt many here would sit through the preceding five hours of film to get up to that movie each time they wanted to do so. Or Star Wars, I would imagine a majority here wouldn't want to sit through Episodes I-V, especially I-III *shivers*, so they could watch Return of the Jedi (hey, look, two 'return of the something' examples!

). It's the same sort of thing. Why delay getting to where you want if you already know what happens and there's very little point in going through the preceding tedium unless you choose to?

AuraofMana · Feb 16, 2008, 10:48 AM // 10:48

Dude why does it matter if it's "right" or "wrong"? If you want to do it, no one is stopping you. If someone else is doing it and it doesn't affect you, why do you care?
If you have too much time in your hands, might I suggest that you go play GW instead of talking about it?

Holly Herro · Feb 16, 2008, 11:53 AM // 11:53

I'm just curious.

What does it matter to you if some one on there 6th character doesn't go through the same story they have before because they've seen it and they'd rather not waste their time when they could be doing other things in this game?

If you'd like to go through the campaign 6 times, do it, don't start a thread.

Blanche Neige · Feb 16, 2008, 12:59 PM // 12:59

well i never run anything, since i currently only play in pve with 1 character and played with another one wich is my farming char and healer when i help guildies

Numa Pompilius · Feb 16, 2008, 02:47 PM // 14:47

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Originally Posted by You can't see me

If I watch a movie, and I know that every time I get to the end, I'll get candy, then if I see the movie once, and can just fast foward and get to the candy that I enjoy more than the movie itself, as it was a bad movie, I'll naturally take the chance to Fast Foward.

Of course, the problem with that analogy is that there is no candy at the end, and you're simply fast-forwarding the movie you've paid to see.

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I think you don't understand because you don't seem to know how little value is actually put in Campaign Style Playing in online games like Guild Wars.

I think maybe you're overestimating how much your view on campaign style playing is shared by the general player population.
In fact, to me it sounds like maybe this kind of game isn't really your thing.

Crom The Pale · Feb 16, 2008, 03:15 PM // 15:15

It seams to me that most of the people getting runs these days are trying to ..

A: catch up with a guild member/friend
B: create a farming char/reach a farming location
C: create a PvP char with better access to PvE skins/armor

A and C I really understand and have no problems with as long as its not their first time through the game, B tends to bother me though I really don't know why. I mean if your guild is doing DoA and nobody has a monk there why not push one through, as long as its a good player that has reached that point on another char and understands how to play.

roshanabey2 · Feb 16, 2008, 04:42 PM // 16:42

If you have done something 8 times, don't you think you would find it borring going throught the easy bits AGAIN &AGAin and leveling up, and if you don't run, that kinda limits, the things you spend you money on don't you think?

Dryndalyn · Feb 17, 2008, 02:52 AM // 02:52

I have over 30 characters but haven’t gotten to the point where I use the run services yet. I just go through the game really slowly, lol. I don’t mind repeating missions over and over again.

I do however appreciate that someone has found another way to make money instead of farming or merchanting. I think that if I wanted to make it a business to get myself some gold, the only non-boring job out there would be running people. There just aren’t enough ways to earn money in this game. Just playing the game doesn’t do it, farming is duller than a day job and merchanting is more uncomfortable than a day job, at least to me. That leaves running.

Each person has their own opinion on enjoyable ways to make money. My point is that there are so few options for making money, why take one of them away?