Curse

shrouded^god · Feb 20, 2008, 08:55 PM // 20:55

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Originally Posted by Kha

Horizontal. To me it has more of an "in battle" feeling. Vertical makes me think I'm laying siege on a castle or something.

Exactly...

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Sakura Az · Feb 20, 2008, 08:56 PM // 20:56

personaly i LOVE how my female ranger uses her bow and especialy when i use Cripshot, i use that skill so much just cause i love the animation.

lakatz · Feb 20, 2008, 09:05 PM // 21:05

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Originally Posted by Inger

Really now... I've never seen that before, every female ranger (including my own) that i've seen has held their bow horizontally.

In terms of what the style means, in GW its just a matter of looks... now in real life I'm sure most ppl will say that firing a bow horizontally won't generate the same amount of power as vertically.

Hi... I'd love if you'd show me a screenshot of what you mean by horizontal. And when I get home, I'll take a screenshot of my ranger firing bows. I'm going to look at longbow, flatbow, recurve and shortbow. I'm very curious now.

Thanks!

Nevin · Feb 20, 2008, 09:12 PM // 21:12

Maybe this is something that should be implemented in GW2? I'm sure lefties would appreciate wielding a sword in their left hand and shield in right. Swappable weapon positions? SOunds like a good idea eh Anet?

Inger · Feb 20, 2008, 09:28 PM // 21:28

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Originally Posted by lakatz

Hi... I'd love if you'd show me a screenshot of what you mean by horizontal. And when I get home, I'll take a screenshot of my ranger firing bows. I'm going to look at longbow, flatbow, recurve and shortbow. I'm very curious now.

Thanks!

Heres my female ranger:

Heres my male ranger:

Notice how my female ranger's bow is horizontal(parrallel to the ground) Now its not 100% perfectly parallel but it is generally horizontal. The bow sort of makes her into a "t" if that makes it easier to visualize. My male ranger's bow is vertical or perpendicular to the ground.

These shots were fired just from normal attacks, no skills were used.

U Wanna Die · Feb 20, 2008, 09:35 PM // 21:35

If i could choose i would pull on of those sick ancient moves where you get those giant bows, lie down and shoot with your feet. They fire like half a mile or something.

Operative 14 · Feb 20, 2008, 10:02 PM // 22:02

To be honest, I think I'd prefer the horizontal style of my lady Ranger.

What I would really like though would be three or four different style animations that randomly get chosen when you shoot your bow. It would be more realistic if they did that.

Phaern Majes · Feb 20, 2008, 10:04 PM // 22:04

If I had a choice I'd choose a point in between vertical and horizontal. I'd call it a lazy horizontal shot! Really doesn't matter to me, I rarely look at my attack animations.

Tyla · Feb 20, 2008, 10:08 PM // 22:08

I prefer Verticlal, it has a more "in battle" feel.
Vertical for in-agro bubble and Horizontal for out-agro bubble please!

My male ranger needs a style change.

By the way anyone noticed when using a preperation or something on a male ranger, unlike the female ranger his weapon disappears when he crouches?

I want moar style!

Grrr....I get confused with Horizontal and Vertical...
Might be a little hard to know what I mean exact 'cause I fail at definitions!

Shyft the Pyro · Feb 20, 2008, 10:08 PM // 22:08

Could it depend on bow type? I've been using the Ironwing Flatbow from Factions ever since beating that campaign on my female ranger, and I swear I've only seen her fire it vertically.

Sir Seifus Halbred · Feb 20, 2008, 10:22 PM // 22:22

I just don't understand why the bows have no bowstrings, why they were never made, and why they never have been added in....

Tyla · Feb 20, 2008, 10:37 PM // 22:37

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Originally Posted by Sir Seifus Halbred

I just don't understand why the bows have no bowstrings, why they were never made, and why they never have been added in....

I've wondered the same thing too - and Rangers seem to shoot their spine on the bow.

Need moar style.

SonicTHI · Feb 20, 2008, 10:37 PM // 22:37

some people asked for moar style...
THIS
is the first thing that came to my mind

Kashrlyyk · Feb 20, 2008, 11:04 PM // 23:04

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Originally Posted by gremlin

I'm a traditionalist so it has to be vertically, there isn't any other way of drawing a bow sufficiently.
It just wouldn't have any worthwhile range or power, bring in magic and of course it might work, after all we do have an endless arrow supply.
...

Agree. That is actually the reason why I don´t have a ranger. Instead I use a female Paragon, because somehow she uses the bow vertically always. I can´t stand the horizontal firing.

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Originally Posted by Diddy bow

I love the way female eles fire the FIRST shot they do, after wards the do a stander female ranger style one but the firs shot looks well good =D.

Female elementalists seem to shot horizontally when not using an attack skill and vertically when they do and the first shot after a spell.

You can't see me · Feb 20, 2008, 11:09 PM // 23:09

Choosing this would be a good idea, but if you do this, than there will be even more call for right/left handed orientation. Such things just don't need time use prioty over GW2/actual bug fixes.

Arenanet hardly works on them at all. Imagine giving them another excuse not to.

Ebeneezersquid · Feb 21, 2008, 12:23 AM // 00:23

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Originally Posted by lakatz

And I went googling to find out what else firing a bow horizontally or vertically might mean. I couldn't find anything.

Using a bow horizontal to the ground is inefficient because you get less bower that way, and the only reason someone would do so in actual combat is because they have hunting-style broadhead arrows and are targeting a human.
Hunting broadheads have a head that is vertical (perpendicular to the ground) so that it can easily pass between the ribs of a game animal.
War broadheads have a head that is horizontal (parrallel to the ground) to easily pass between the ribs of a man.
When fighting a man with hunting broadheads, the archer turns his bow so that the arrow can pass between the ribs.

So GW is sexist, and refuses to give the female ranger the proper ammunition, I guess

Danax · Feb 21, 2008, 02:06 AM // 02:06

Well my male ranger is always vertical, but horizontal would be a nice change.

lakatz · Feb 21, 2008, 03:26 AM // 03:26

Thanks Inger for the screenshots. Now I get what you mean.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ebeneezersquid

Using a bow horizontal to the ground is inefficient because you get less bower that way, and the only reason someone would do so in actual combat is because they have hunting-style broadhead arrows and are targeting a human.
Hunting broadheads have a head that is vertical (perpendicular to the ground) so that it can easily pass between the ribs of a game animal.
War broadheads have a head that is horizontal (parrallel to the ground) to easily pass between the ribs of a man.
When fighting a man with hunting broadheads, the archer turns his bow so that the arrow can pass between the ribs.

So GW is sexist, and refuses to give the female ranger the proper ammunition, I guess

Thank you for this. I was totally confused and just went into GW as soon as I got home from work. I went on the attack with Jin using my Drago's flatbow and I using one of my longbows. We carried them vertically when standing and running (which makes sense to me) but when we attacked we did indeed roll them over horizontally. When I studied archery in high school (many years ago), we always fired vertically, and that was the only way I could imagine firing until I saw it for myself in GW. I guess it was important for the male devs that the females at least look inefficient.

j/k

strcpy · Feb 21, 2008, 03:31 AM // 03:31

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Originally Posted by Ebeneezersquid

Using a bow horizontal to the ground is inefficient because you get less bower that way, and the only reason someone would do so in actual combat is because they have hunting-style broadhead arrows and are targeting a human.

Umm, in real life the fletchings spin the arrow so that is irrelevant - they have spun the arrow for as long as they have been on arrows. For reasons unknown to me many believe that you somehow align the broad head to go between ribs. You will even see some modern day hunters with heavy helical (spin) on their fletchings believe so. Not only is that silly but even if true you would simply align the broad head on the arrow to allow you to fire the bow vertically. Watch the end of this video and you can clearly see the arrow spinning http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48R2a...eature=related And, lastly, no matter the orientation of the broad head were you to hit bone it either sticks in it or breaks through it - they don't somehow slide around them.

Generally speaking repeatability is what you are seeking when shooting a bow. Where you place your string hand is called an "anchor" and MUST be consistent. This is the equivalent of a rear site on a rifle. Further it is easier to aim with the bow verticle and the arrow up close to your eye (regardless of you are shooting "instinctive" or using some point of aim method using the tip of the arrow).

Different areas of the world use different grips and anchors, most western countries grip the bow with their index, middle, and ring finger and either anchor with a finger in the corner of their mouth or under their chin. Asian and middle eastern countries tend towards using the thumb to hold the string and pulling to a point on the ears. Some Native Americans anchored at their chest, however they (at best) canted the bow no more than 30 or so degrees.

In any case no one outside of movies and video games holds a bow horizontally - or at least anyone that actually want to hit what they are shooting at (even in my junior program I will have a kid want to do it from time to time to emulate something on TV - they quickly find out why it doesn't work with a real bow). Even in situations where clearance was a problem (say, while riding a horse) did they do so. They either shot a fairly short bow or had the bottom limb shorter (the traditional Japanese longbows are made this way - really strange looking to most everyone else).

As for my preference - I prefer them to look more real and therefore vertical or a slight amount of cant (many shoot primitive that way because the arrow rests against your hand better). I would also like to see a proper follow through after the shot. There have been a few games that do it fairly well, at least as well as you are going to get with a game.

Bryant Again · Feb 21, 2008, 04:33 AM // 04:33

I'd hold it diagonally, and gangsta style when I feel like it.