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Tyla · Feb 24, 2008, 10:47 AM // 10:47

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Originally Posted by Taurucis

I said nowhere that Mesmers and paragons were incredibly weak.

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I'd think Guild Wars started as PvP, that's why it's such a mess as it is today, with a bunch of skills nerfed until they had no use and two classes pretty much obsolete.

From what I see you did.

Taurucis · Feb 24, 2008, 04:07 PM // 16:07

Soul Reaping might still be incredibly powerful but that doesn't change the fact that it was nerfed due to PvP.

There's a difference between "weak" and "obsolete". "Weak" means that it lacks strength, basically a class that is clearly subpar. "Obsolete" means that it can't be used. And it's hard to get a PvE pug on a mesmer or paragon, which means that it's very hard to use one in PvE without H/H or guild groups.

Snow Bunny · Feb 24, 2008, 06:40 PM // 18:40

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Originally Posted by Taurucis

And it's hard to get a PvE pug on a mesmer or paragon, which means that it's very hard to use one in PvE without H/H or guild groups.

It's not PvP's fault most PUGs are idiots.

The Paragon has the damage of a sword warrior with the damage mitigation of a monk. It's easily the most powerful PvE character.

So, when it doesn't get accepted, it's not PvP's fault.

EternalTempest · Feb 27, 2008, 10:49 PM // 22:49

Not sure about any % but GuildWars allows you to do all of the below:

Pve - Quests, Missions, Human Explore, Co-op / Npc Co-OP play, 4 Story Arcs.
Pvp - RA, TA, HoH, AB, Fort Aspen/Jade, GvG, Hb (all against human players)

And it's up to you want you want to play.

LightningHell · Feb 28, 2008, 05:30 AM // 05:30

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Originally Posted by Spike

Actually Guild Wars was envisioned as a PvE oriented game not pvp. Pvp was added later as something to do AFTER you finished PVE.

Also as enter said "I point you to the fact that, when the game started, you had to unlock all your Runes, mods, etc etc via PVE. There was no PVP unlock pack"

Ah, that's where you're wrong. The game was made for PvPers to do PvP and PvEers to do PvE. There was no PvP unlock pack, yes, but Balthazar's Faction is easy enough to get.

In my opinion, Guild Wars is mainly about PvP. It's probably still the most balanced, well-made PvP RPG out there, despite absolutely horrendous balance decisions.

Thorondor Port · Feb 28, 2008, 08:37 AM // 08:37

Hey you guys should argue about nothing more.

QUICKLY! Quote me and begin insulting