Curse

Ctb · Mar 20, 2008, 12:11 PM // 12:11

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750 gold for 1 key is more than most people can afford. At least give us SOMETHING in return instead of a crappy purple req 13 Restoration Magic Focus that nobody can use and can be sold for only 150 gold.

Chest running was always a losing proposition unless you happened to get really, really lucky. The change to randomness just made it a FASTER loss.

The thing I really miss is that you can't get into a CR group anymore because there's no reason to now. It makes just as much sense to just solo it, so that's what people do.

CRs in Whitman's Folly back in the day were all kinds of fun, and a good way to meet new people.

zwei2stein · Mar 20, 2008, 12:14 PM // 12:14

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Originally Posted by O Nuxtofulakas

sure...
...and those that spawn in "elite" areas must always drop a r9, right?
with perfect 30hp and 20/20 mods, right? cause it sucks to spend 1.5k...
or even better a pop up window with a Xunlai agent with bikini asking kindly what you want to get from the menu?

well sardelac sanitarium is your friend

you can propose many things there

Strawman much?

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Anyway, back when chests could be "tested", chest running was nice social activity. Shame they took that away.

O Nuxtofulakas · Mar 20, 2008, 12:41 PM // 12:41

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Originally Posted by zwei2stein

Strawman much?

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Originally Posted by Ctb

So do you have anything to say about what he actually posted, or were you just being ridiculous?

so..we are not allowed to have an opposite opinion cause you don't like it?
i can also start insulting you, using similar vocabulary but nah.....

..you both look experienced players and your contribution here should be how to impove the challenge of the game...not how to make it pathetically easy...
..my pov

i do sympathize you...

oh... and for those who didn't understand and asked if i have smtg to say the answer is
/notsigned

Taurus · Mar 20, 2008, 01:03 PM // 13:03

I is wanting all chests to give req 7 max itens that is cool and I like it
if anets makes me wishes come trues i give the cool guyz over their two tumbs up

Kerwyn Nasilan · Mar 20, 2008, 01:06 PM // 13:06

I would not mind chest running being fairly profitible. I have done chest runs befor and they where fun. maybe up the random generator of chests.

Ctb · Mar 20, 2008, 01:20 PM // 13:20

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so..we are not allowed to have an opposite opinion cause you don't like it?
i can also start insulting you, using similar vocabulary but nah.....

You did not present an opinion. You quoted reetkever and you posted a bunch of claims he didn't make as if that's what he was suggesting. That's a strawman, it's a ridiculous strawman at that, and I'll ask you one more time before I dismiss your comments out of hand as both fallacious and irrelevant:

Do you, or do you not have any actual response to what reetkever posted and you quoted?

Furthermore, considering your poor grammar and spelling - which I'm well aware may be a result of not speaking English as a first language, which is entirely fair - and your apparent misunderstanding of the word "insult", I seriously doubt you can muster a similar vocabulary. Just an observation.

MirkoTeran · Mar 20, 2008, 01:38 PM // 13:38

/not snigned.

I find it fine just as it is.

R.Shayne · Mar 20, 2008, 01:43 PM // 13:43

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Originally Posted by zwei2stein

Anyway, back when chests could be "tested", chest running was nice social activity. Shame they took that away.

I miss those days too, don't see it coming back. It seems ANET is determined that we grind and grind alone.

Scary · Mar 20, 2008, 01:49 PM // 13:49

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Originally Posted by revhard

I miss the days of chest running, many good times had with that.
they should remove the randomness of the chests so that if
the first person opens it and it's rare, everyone else that opens
it would get a rare. I had a blast back in the day. all they did was
remove another yet fun thing that could be done in GW.

I know they won't take LS away, but perhaps this smaller change
can be reversed so that we can once again see "CRSI"

They wont change......
So open a new topic ?????

Whisper Evenstar · Mar 20, 2008, 01:51 PM // 13:51

/notsigned

they did fix chests - they are truly random now...

revhard · Mar 20, 2008, 03:41 PM // 15:41

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Originally Posted by Ctb

Chest running was always a losing proposition unless you happened to get really, really lucky. The change to randomness just made it a FASTER loss.

The thing I really miss is that you can't get into a CR group anymore because there's no reason to now. It makes just as much sense to just solo it, so that's what people do.

CRs in Whitman's Folly back in the day were all kinds of fun, and a good way to meet new people.

exactly, it's nice to spend 1.5k on a key and actually get a gold , even if it's crap. but the main thing is once they made the change, 95% of people stopped chest runs because they weren't as fun anymore. it was always fair since you rolled the dice to see who opened first

i guess this is more of a i miss the old days of..... type thread then anything.

The Toe Tag · Mar 20, 2008, 03:59 PM // 15:59

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Originally Posted by Witchblade

how about stopping asking for change and save some thread material for GW2 ?

Dont worry im sure they will find something they want changed then too.

As for the random chests,i like when they added that.It stoped the whole"im not useing my key it might be a purple,use yours...No use yours"

Something i want to add,might be a stupid question but...When did chests start spawning in mid mission?
Iv seen it in Fow and lastly in the Gates of kryta HM.I ran up to the chest for bonus and picked up the book and BAM a locked chest spawned behind me.
Was that added to stop chest runners?

zwei2stein · Mar 20, 2008, 04:15 PM // 16:15

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Originally Posted by The Toe Tag

Dont worry im sure they will find something they want changed then too.

As for the random chests,i like when they added that.It stoped the whole"im not useing my key it might be a purple,use yours...No use yours"

Something i want to add,might be a stupid question but...When did chests start spawning in mid mission?
Iv seen it in Fow and lastly in the Gates of kryta HM.I ran up to the chest for bonus and picked up the book and BAM a locked chest spawned behind me.
Was that added to stop chest runners?

Chests now spawns only if linked enemy group spawns too. So, if enemy group spawns after you entered map, chest will spawn with them. For example, picking book in kryta mission spawns several wraits groups and if those groups have chest linked, it spawned with them.

And yeah, it is because of chestrunning since people could avoid some spawn triggers thus having easy access to lots of unguarded chests.

quickmonty · Mar 20, 2008, 04:33 PM // 16:33

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Originally Posted by DarkFlame

I'm the oldest forum member thats still active here(other then Inde) and I didn't start posting till a few months back. There's nothing wrong with lurking.

Nice to see someone besides Inde that's been a member longer than me.

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And yeah, I miss the old days when chests weren't random. But I don't see Anet reverting it back as the randomness makes the keys/lockpicks a more effective gold sink. And gold does need to be taken out of the game.

The only reason I bother with chests now is for titles. Haven't seen anything but junk in a long time ..... although I did get an elite monk tome last night.

Dronte · Mar 20, 2008, 08:01 PM // 20:01

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Originally Posted by Yawgmoth

Oldschool Chestrunning in groups was fantastic fun. Now it's just solo boring grind.
And after Hardmode insane gold item drop rares + Lootscaling not affecting Gold items but greatly reducing the amount of gold in circulation, chestrunning is not only boring solo grind, it's also a pure goldsink. The state of economy makes you destined to lose money on chestrunning in the long term.

/QFT

I ran ~1500 chests in 2 months before the nerf, since then I opened about.. 400 in 1 year..

enter_the_zone · Mar 20, 2008, 08:21 PM // 20:21

Doing that might put some fun back into GW, so it'll never happen.

This game has gradually stopped being about fun and started being about grinding. Chests, allegiance titles, crappy EoTN chests needing lockpicks in NM... etc etc ad nauseaum.

Every time something is fun, BANG nerfed. This topic has just reminded me how epically /fail Anet's running of GW has been.