Curse

Creeping Carl · Feb 22, 2008, 12:17 AM // 00:17

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Originally Posted by Lagg

Restoring this game to its original quality would mean getting rid of Factions, Nightfall and Eye of the North and somehow magically erasing our memories to make it feel new again.

Ok that's just stupid. Way to take someone's argument to the ridiculous extremes. It's called strawman.

Coverticus · Feb 22, 2008, 12:53 AM // 00:53

Sounds like the same discussions all over again, just with different skills.

Yes, I agree that Ursan is a powerful skill, especially in a 6/8 team. What did we have before Ursan came along? SF teams with similar ideas. It's just the turn of UWAY at present.
Yep, I've used it but it helps me, and only me, to do things reasonably quickly. Yeah ok, this could border on laziness but life has to take priority I suppose

I just don't have the time to play the game as I used to and, eek, Ursan helps me do things in slightly less time.

But I refuse to go anywhere near PUGS, due to the sheer stupidity of the players in general. If they want to use it, so be it. Limiting a group to 2U's would be a good idea imo though. Or possibly reductions in damage output based on the number of U's in the team.

If I still want a challenge (which admittedly is now few and far between in game), I'll still do things the old fashioned way with my guildies.

Mr Pink57 · Mar 23, 2008, 05:59 AM // 05:59

I just achieved Leg Vanquisher today actually and got one PM and congrat me on it but they did not ask if I UB it. Which I did not as I H/H everything and it would not make much sense to have one ursan when my para shouts are much more useful to the team.

pink

Nittle Grasper · Mar 23, 2008, 06:24 AM // 06:24

This is pretty much why I'm quitting Guild wars, too many peps are bitching and not just playing, you care for titles for what to show off? To whom? For your HoM so GW2 is better experience? Other peps who will think "Oh wow that dude has LV lets worship him!!!!!!!!!" seriously if some peps see LV it goes like this "dude you have no live lolzzz go get a live !!!!" seriously GW is dead and the only good thing that makes me play this game anymore is HoM so when I buy GW2 I get good sh*t. Nothing requires skill anymore you guys should realize this by now >.>. For noobs who can't get into HA groups, HA is more based on luck than a end chest Duncan on HM. The only thing that remotely require skill is GvG but everyone who gvgs is super fricking bitchy from my XP. Anyway /QQ less pl0x kthxbai

P.S stop saying ursan it's like a jinx now

bel unbreakable · Mar 23, 2008, 09:43 AM // 09:43

most ppl dont get titles to show off the ones i know dont any way

Lensor · Mar 23, 2008, 10:10 AM // 10:10

Who the heck PUG to vanquish? In my experience vanquishing is a H/H thing, with the occasional Guild/Alliance/Friend group for when several people need the same area. I have leg vanq, and never PuGed a single area (Same with HM Missions). And when I got it, I got three gratz PMs, and not one asked if I UB'ed it.

Koning · Mar 23, 2008, 10:17 AM // 10:17

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Originally Posted by Lensor

and not one asked if I UB'ed it.

Well, everyone seems to ub'ing that title so why asking it when you already know the answer

?

Yes, I'm still hoping Anet removes UB from the game one day...

Kemal X · Mar 23, 2008, 10:38 AM // 10:38

I have nearly vanquished Elona, and some parts of Cantha on my mesmer with H/H. So far, haven't been using Ursan, and higly doubt I ever use it. Guild Wars used to be game where skill matters, just now it's gtame where high title matters (BTW I DO have maxed norn...)

Cuilan · Mar 23, 2008, 10:42 AM // 10:42

Before I bought the new game, I thought and heard that it would be much harder than the other games. To have a skill like this ruins my fun of tough battles where we nearly die often.

t00115577 · Mar 23, 2008, 10:44 AM // 10:44

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Originally Posted by Nittle Grasper

This is pretty much why I'm quitting Guild wars, too many peps are bitching and not just playing, you care for titles for what to show off? To whom? For your HoM so GW2 is better experience? Other peps who will think "Oh wow that dude has LV lets worship him!!!!!!!!!" seriously if some peps see LV it goes like this "dude you have no live lolzzz go get a live !!!!" seriously GW is dead and the only good thing that makes me play this game anymore is HoM so when I buy GW2 I get good sh*t. Nothing requires skill anymore you guys should realize this by now >.>. For noobs who can't get into HA groups, HA is more based on luck than a end chest Duncan on HM. The only thing that remotely require skill is GvG but everyone who gvgs is super fricking bitchy from my XP. Anyway /QQ less pl0x kthxbai

P.S stop saying ursan it's like a jinx now

Im working on my leg vanq atm, and im not doing it to show off to people, im just doing it because its something to do.
If you play this game with no goals or aims, it gets really boring, really fast. And i assume 90% of people are the same as me

Solas · Mar 23, 2008, 10:55 AM // 10:55

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Originally Posted by t00115577

Im working on my leg vanq atm, and im not doing it to show off to people, im just doing it because its something to do.
If you play this game with no goals or aims, it gets really boring, really fast. And i assume 90% of people are the same as me

QFT
Titles are jsut extra content for me, somthing to do and works towards.

JONO51 · Mar 23, 2008, 11:53 AM // 11:53

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Originally Posted by t00115577

Im working on my leg vanq atm, and im not doing it to show off to people, im just doing it because its something to do.
If you play this game with no goals or aims, it gets really boring, really fast. And i assume 90% of people are the same as me

I completly agree with this. I stopped playing numerous times, but when I came back i decided to give myself goals and now I'm playing again. Without titles, i would have stopped paying permanently ages ago, except for maybe a few bored weekends.

Master Knightfall · Mar 23, 2008, 12:01 PM // 12:01

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Originally Posted by Dev121

Yeah its lame, titles will never have the same credibility:

Person 1: Wow Legendary Vanquisher Nice
Person 2: Thanks
Person 1: Did you UB it?
Person 2: No I used my own team set ups.
Person 1: YEAH RIGHT..........

Who cares, titles are as meaningless as 15k armors. Merely cosmetic they prove nothing or show you really have any skills. As far as I'm concerned nobody has any skills or anything worth a title until they can step into the arena and defeat me with their build and skills. <grin> The rest is just childs play romper room material like all of the pve game.

Crom The Pale · Mar 23, 2008, 12:01 PM // 12:01

A great part of this is Vanity.

People that have been playing GW for a long time, or those who think they have a higher level of skill than others wish a means to seperate themselves from the pack.

That means used to be by either wealth or Elite Zones. Now one of those 2 has been removed and the other has been drastically decreased.

UB created a fully level playing feild in PvE, and that is just not allowable for those that wish to be concidered Elite.

Isileth · Mar 23, 2008, 12:08 PM // 12:08

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Originally Posted by Crom The Pale

A great part of this is Vanity.

People that have been playing GW for a long time, or those who think they have a higher level of skill than others wish a means to seperate themselves from the pack.

That means used to be by either wealth or Elite Zones. Now one of those 2 has been removed and the other has been drastically decreased.

UB created a fully level playing feild in PvE, and that is just not allowable for those that wish to be concidered Elite.

I really think this is an incorrect view, very few people are out deffending their elite vanity filled ways.

Yes there are some who are saying such things, but the majority have a problem with whats its doing to the game not some ingame achievement which means nothing.

While its nice and easy to think thats the main argument against Ursan its really not and as such arguing against it doesnt really do anything to counter the main points being made.

Tyla · Mar 23, 2008, 12:15 PM // 12:15

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Originally Posted by Nittle Grasper

This is pretty much why I'm quitting Guild wars, too many peps are bitching and not just playing, you care for titles for what to show off? To whom? For your HoM so GW2 is better experience? Other peps who will think "Oh wow that dude has LV lets worship him!!!!!!!!!" seriously if some peps see LV it goes like this "dude you have no live lolzzz go get a live !!!!" seriously GW is dead and the only good thing that makes me play this game anymore is HoM so when I buy GW2 I get good sh*t. Nothing requires skill anymore you guys should realize this by now >.>. For noobs who can't get into HA groups, HA is more based on luck than a end chest Duncan on HM. The only thing that remotely require skill is GvG but everyone who gvgs is super fricking bitchy from my XP. Anyway /QQ less pl0x kthxbai

P.S stop saying ursan it's like a jinx now

I know many GvG'ers, and they aren't bitchy.
HA is more like based on stupid groups made, I mean the balanced builds there are becoming more like the gimmicks, and besides -- HA is becoming more shitty by the second.
And why are you QQing now, if you're telling others to stop?

P.S -- Titles don't take skill, but they're something to do.

C2K · Mar 23, 2008, 06:27 PM // 18:27

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Originally Posted by tyla salanari

P.S -- Titles don't take skill, but they're something to do.

Titles = the Grind that was non-existant when the game was released.

Tyla · Mar 23, 2008, 06:31 PM // 18:31

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Originally Posted by C2K

Titles = the Grind that was non-existant when the game was released.

I'm not talking about the grind titles which implies "Been there done that" about 100 times.

Guardian, Vanquisher are both titles you can do once and think "yay, done it" instead of "too much of the same thing...".
Champion is the only title that has my respect, now.

If it weren't for Guardian and Vanquisher I wouldn't be playing PvE.

Mr. Undisclosed · Mar 23, 2008, 07:53 PM // 19:53

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Originally Posted by angmar_nite

Weaker? If people who rolled mesmers and sins wanted to play high armor good health high damage melee classes why didn't they make a warrior.

So you're saying they can't like their play style and getting into DoA whatever etc. groups too?

Tyla · Mar 23, 2008, 07:57 PM // 19:57

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Originally Posted by Sergeant Miyagi

So you're saying they can't like their play style and getting into DoA whatever etc. groups too?

You're not following your playstyle there.
Infact -- Ursan is a proffession of it's own.
You don't play Mesmer to deal shitloads of damage, you make it to screw the minds of the enemy.
You don't make 'Sins to stand and fight, you make them to let out alot of damage, and escape after the kill.

That, in no way is the same playstyle as Ursan.