Curse

Toxage · Dec 02, 2007, 08:45 PM // 20:45

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Originally Posted by Racthoh

It's how Anet wants people to play, at least it was supposed to be. Skill over time, grinding your norn title up to gain an advantage over others goes against what Anet originally intended the game to be.

They went back on that when titles were implemenated.

Sunspear
Lightbringer
Kurzick
Luxon
Norn
Asura
Wisdom
Lucky
ETC ETC

Tons of titles reward time > skill. Did you miss the memo?

Tyla · Dec 02, 2007, 09:58 PM // 21:58

man - leave ursan to DoA and let pve have a minimum of skill in average HM pve

HawkofStorms · Dec 02, 2007, 10:05 PM // 22:05

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Originally Posted by Toxage

They went back on that when titles were implemenated.

Sunspear
Lightbringer
Kurzick
Luxon
Norn
Asura
Wisdom
Lucky
ETC ETC

Tons of titles reward time > skill. Did you miss the memo?

Because titles were purely cosmetic when they were first implimented. Just like elite armor skins and weapons were no better then collector gear.

You can't see me · Dec 03, 2007, 01:15 AM // 01:15

My Opinon on Ursan Blessing:

Anyone complaining about the lack of PuGs and social gameplay that hates UB should be burned at the stake for hypocrisy. UB was a huge PuG booster because it's the only skill in the whole game that makes actually finding a PuG possible, and worthwhile. No more worrying about idiot builds when you all have the same basic idea, and just get two nice monks.

The Skill itself:

It does not need to be nerfed. Yes, it lessens the challenge, but new updates will do that. Old activities become less and less challenging with newer updates and skills in any online game you will ever play, and there will always be older players ranting about things becoming too easy. Not to mention it's not as powerful as some of these whine threads make it out to be.

Personally, I don't use it that often, but I have no problem with it's current strength or it's use in PuGs. There's been no change in level of thought requirement, since PuGs lack that ability anyway. Stop whining about it. Games go on.

Toxage · Dec 03, 2007, 02:59 AM // 02:59

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Originally Posted by HawkofStorms

Because titles were purely cosmetic when they were first implimented. Just like elite armor skins and weapons were no better then collector gear.

Wisdom has always given an in game advantage - salvaging.

HawkofStorms · Dec 03, 2007, 03:37 AM // 03:37

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Originally Posted by Toxage

Wisdom has always given an in game advantage - salvaging.

Again... when they were FIRST implimented, they did nothing.

Savio · Dec 03, 2007, 04:14 AM // 04:14

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Originally Posted by HawkofStorms

Again... when they were FIRST implimented, they did nothing.

Wisdom and Treasure Hunter titles gave their bonuses since they were first implemented. But Wisdom's bonus became obsolete with the introduction of Perfect Salvage Kits.

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Originally Posted by You can't see me

Old activities become less and less challenging with newer updates and skills

No, old activities become easier as players learn more, play better, and share information.

Chris Blackstar · Dec 03, 2007, 05:29 AM // 05:29

the players who want this skill nerfed and complain that it is overpowered either are afraid that everyone now has a way to obtain items once only allowed by elete players, or are simply selfish that their elete items will be held by some noob, who will say I Ursanwayed it.

There is nothing wrong with the skill, it is not overpowered, nothing in this game ever was. In fact if you don't believe me, then explain overpowered and how it relates to the game. Also don't just say it makes things easier, you want challenges then play professional PvP. PvE is supposed to be fun, not a chore and if certain skills can make a game more fun, even in hard areas, then let us have our fun. It just makes the game more appealing. Stop trying to take away our fun you ASS-HOLES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

CHunterX · Dec 03, 2007, 07:46 AM // 07:46

Ursan Blessing isn't overpowered. Real men use items.

bel unbreakable · Dec 03, 2007, 12:50 PM // 12:50

has any one from either side of the fence ever changed their mind because of an argument laid down by the other side.
very few if any from what i see on one hand you have the nerf ursan because its over powerful a good argument for sure that is totaly lost in the
pile of all ursan users are noobs, keep the noobs out of elite areas, they are all cheaters so they are.
any legitamate argument there ever was has been destroyed by those holier than thou players that think they are special.

silara_jorinset · Dec 03, 2007, 12:50 PM // 12:50

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Originally Posted by Chris Blackstar

the players who want this skill nerfed and complain that it is overpowered either are afraid that everyone now has a way to obtain items once only allowed by elete players, or are simply selfish that their elete items will be held by some noob, who will say I Ursanwayed it.

There is nothing wrong with the skill, it is not overpowered, nothing in this game ever was. In fact if you don't believe me, then explain overpowered and how it relates to the game. Also don't just say it makes things easier, you want challenges then play professional PvP. PvE is supposed to be fun, not a chore and if certain skills can make a game more fun, even in hard areas, then let us have our fun. It just makes the game more appealing. Stop trying to take away our fun you ASS-HOLES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Really? I don't have any tormented weapons or such and would like to see a nerf... I don't want to see every harder area in the game become just an ursanway fest. Just because its PvE rather than PvP doesn't mean it shouldn't have challenging areas in it. They are designated elite areas for a reason. The skill is blatently over-powered, any skill that is more effective than taking actual profession specific skills needs looking at.

Toxage · Dec 03, 2007, 09:19 PM // 21:19

Interesting how Paragons can provide 70% reduction to the whole party with no consumables and this is BALANCED but yet some people use ursan blessing with CONSUMABLES and it is imbalanced? LOL at your logic
Stop being so stupid..

There's nothing to fear
they're on fire
save yourselves
focused anger....

TA DA! Paragon = Invincibility

Martin Firestorm · Dec 03, 2007, 09:25 PM // 21:25

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Originally Posted by Chris Blackstar

Stop trying to take away our fun you ASS-HOLES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hmmm...how did this escape the RED ENGINE AL GORED thing? Is the key all caps?

You can't see me · Dec 03, 2007, 09:30 PM // 21:30

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Originally Posted by Savio

No, old activities become easier as players learn more, play better, and share information.

That given, there's no denying the fact that new skills, updates, weapons, etc, make things easier that in turn are not changed. Perfect Example would be how Mystic Regeneration buffed the 55 Tyrian Monk.

Toxage · Dec 03, 2007, 09:30 PM // 21:30

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Originally Posted by Martin Firestorm

Hmmm...how did this escape the RED ENGINE AL GORED thing? Is the key all caps?

The key is the - breaking it in the middle.

Martin Firestorm · Dec 03, 2007, 09:49 PM // 21:49

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Originally Posted by Toxage

The key is the - breaking it in the middle.

I'd have thought ASS alone was enough.

Abedeus · Dec 03, 2007, 10:04 PM // 22:04

Ass is sometimes used as synonym of ,,butt''. It's a word that's rated under PG-13. You can notice that while watching a kid-teen-adult cartoon The Simpsons, where ass is used quite often, but it acts as a more violent version of butt. Still, it's not going to get censured. But ass used along with hole IS a swear.

Maybe you could stop talking about getting around the censoring system?

For example, I would want Ursanway to get balanced... It's kinda the only way some people can get to UW/FoW/DoA, but if they don't have time to get high rank, they won't even find a normal balanced team - for example, I can't get into DoA with BiP or SF nuker...
- Ranger LFP!
- Hi, you are ursan?
- No, BiP.
- Sorry we are looking for ursan *kick*

- Elementalist LFP!
......Squishy ursans ftl?

Chris Blackstar · Dec 03, 2007, 10:14 PM // 22:14

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Originally Posted by silara_jorinset

Really? I don't have any tormented weapons or such and would like to see a nerf... I don't want to see every harder area in the game become just an ursanway fest. Just because its PvE rather than PvP doesn't mean it shouldn't have challenging areas in it. They are designated elite areas for a reason. The skill is blatently over-powered, any skill that is more effective than taking actual profession specific skills needs looking at.

you would destroy everyones fun just because you feel something is "Overpowered". I don't have any tormented weapons either, I don't even play in the DOA, nor do I use Ursan Blessing, but for that ocasional time I may for a certain area, I would like to be just as powerful as the day I obtained it, not toned because some feel it makes things easier. I say you feel that way, then don't use it. PvE only skills are supposed to be Overpowered, let's keep it that way.

It players who want everything nerfed or are to damm lazy to find counters to good builds that cry nerf. You are the people who make GW undesirable to play and lead to a lot of good players quitting.

All my assassin build have been destroyed because of nerfed skills, as well as other professions, I am one of those players who tries to think outside the box when it comes to builds, and does not use gimmick or FOM builds, I like to make my own, but some of those builds include one or two skills that have been nerfed because of ass-holes in PvP like the jerk IZZY, who does the game balance so PvP stays fresh. Ursans Blessing is a skill to counter nerfed skills, cause by PvP, and now you want it destroyed as well, and for no other reason then you feel it is overpowered and makes the game easy.

You never mentioned that you have to have GW:EOTN or that you have to grind to max out the norm title to make good use of it, nor that alone it not that good, but five players, well sure then it powerful, but fire elems with SF is just as powerful. Why don't you think about what and how it will effect players before you cry nerf.

HawkofStorms · Dec 03, 2007, 10:46 PM // 22:46

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Originally Posted by Chris Blackstar

you would destroy everyones fun just because you feel something is "Overpowered".

Yes.
Because trust me, something is much more fun and rewarding if you have to put more effort into it.

If people could just get a hole-in-one golfing every time because the hole was the size of a lake... how is that fun?

Oh... and Lol... yes the reason people are wanting a nerf to ursan is because they can't find any counters to it... right...

Martin Firestorm · Dec 03, 2007, 11:12 PM // 23:12

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Originally Posted by Abedeus

Maybe you could stop talking about getting around the censoring system?

Thanks for explaining butt versus ass for me--I had no idea--but if that's how you feel just don't reply. Plus it sure beats droning on endlessly about ursanway.