Curse

ShoGunTheOne · Mar 31, 2008, 02:39 PM // 14:39

the next server might be korea or japan, only predictions though :P
they might just keep shutting down servers
till we only have America/Europe servers
then it would be nice to have the old favor system back

not that i want the servers to be down though :/

Bryant Again · Mar 31, 2008, 02:40 PM // 14:40

Why are we shutting off services to so many players??

Numa Pompilius · Mar 31, 2008, 03:10 PM // 15:10

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Originally Posted by flubber

does anyone else find it odd that the actions that are being taken...seem like the actions taken against...bots.

That was actually my thought too. Extremely harsh to the (admittedly few) real players, if so.
Other possibilities include legal problems with the Chinese - I seem to remember that there is a law against violent games in China, plus the present Chinese crackdown on communication via MMO's. Maybe NCSoft couldn't or wouldn't comply with demands from the Chinese government?

Fates · Mar 31, 2008, 03:23 PM // 15:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bryant Again

Why are we shutting off services to so many players??

Can you not read?

Longasc · Mar 31, 2008, 03:23 PM // 15:23

GW1 comes to an end, and was never successful on the asian market. The9 also no longer host GW.

I just wonder what they will do in GW2. Try to cater to the Asian crowd as well or to focus solely on western desires, whatever they might be.

English Warrior · Mar 31, 2008, 04:07 PM // 16:07

If they shut down the servers does that mean no more asian tag names aswell because that would we a shame.

Another Felldspar · Mar 31, 2008, 04:18 PM // 16:18

Everyone seems to be acting as if this is the fault of the game provider. According to the news release about this two weeks ago NC Soft had made many attempts and expended good effort to be able to continue to provide game service, but hadn't been able to do so. I think swearing at A-Net is incredibly inappropriate in this instance, although I can sure sympathize with the frustration that not being able to continue to play or to trade would bring. I thought it was particularly harsh that they were saying they didn't know if the server data would be saved so that if the game were to be brought back on-line people would be able to access the characters and inventory they had built in the past.

I do understand that there would have to be some attempt to isolate the economy though -- consider literally thousands upon thousands of people discovering that they won't be able to play soon -- I would think that most would begin to sell or give away the things they have accumulated in their accounts which would definitely impact the overall economy.

Sincerest sympathies for all of those that are affected.

Another Felldspar · Mar 31, 2008, 05:02 PM // 17:02

That's just it -- there was longer than 1 day notice. This post was make on 3/16/08 http://guildwars.incgamers.com/forum...d.php?t=475551 and it has been on the home page of GW Online since that time.

Pardon my ignorance about how they do things in other countries, but I believe that I have read in the past that there is another, government controlled, company that NC Soft has to go through to provide service to Taiwan and China. Can someone more in the know than I am shed some light on this?

enxa · Mar 31, 2008, 05:13 PM // 17:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ayelet Feldspar

Pardon my ignorance about how they do things in other countries, but I believe that I have read in the past that there is another, government controlled, company that NC Soft has to go through to provide service to Taiwan and China. Can someone more in the know than I am shed some light on this?

China has very, very strict rules and filters for the internet. Did you know that Google has to filter its search results to chinese IPs according to the government? If they tried to search for 'democracy' they would have found no matches!

I would imagine that NCSoft and ANet would have to do the same thing. And China considders Taiwan as part of China, even though Taiwan is recognised as an independant state by western countries.

But i dont know how this relates to the issue. Its just speculation.

Angelic Upstart · Mar 31, 2008, 05:26 PM // 17:26

Bad one

I must confess the conspiracy theorist in me did think along the same lines as Flubba and Numa... very odd

afya · Mar 31, 2008, 05:33 PM // 17:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ayelet Feldspar

That's just it -- there was longer than 1 day notice. This post was make on 3/16/08 http://guildwars.incgamers.com/forum...d.php?t=475551 and it has been on the home page of GW Online since that time.

Pardon my ignorance about how they do things in other countries, but I believe that I have read in the past that there is another, government controlled, company that NC Soft has to go through to provide service to Taiwan and China. Can someone more in the know than I am shed some light on this?

That post is about the CHINA Beta server, which also end in 3/31. We're talking about the Taiwan/Hong Kong/Macao server, which only has 24 hours notice.

ShoGunTheOne · Mar 31, 2008, 05:37 PM // 17:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ayelet Feldspar

That's just it -- there was longer than 1 day notice. This post was make on 3/16/08 http://guildwars.incgamers.com/forum...d.php?t=475551 and it has been on the home page of GW Online since that time.

Pardon my ignorance about how they do things in other countries, but I believe that I have read in the past that there is another, government controlled, company that NC Soft has to go through to provide service to Taiwan and China. Can someone more in the know than I am shed some light on this?

that was for the mainland servers, look on my comment on Page 1
btw here's the link....although it's in chinese
http://gw.the9.com/news/main/88878.shtml

HawkofStorms · Mar 31, 2008, 06:03 PM // 18:03

Makes sense to me from a political perspective.
And this won't stop/is dirrected at bots. They will just run a proxy and get on the regular servers.
This is likely due to laws/political reasons in the region.

Bryant Again · Mar 31, 2008, 06:57 PM // 18:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fates Monk

Can you not read?

All I've seen is that they're "doing it because of bots" - which is stupid. There are actual players in these areas, you know.

**cosyfiep** · Mar 31, 2008, 07:20 PM // 19:20

well I hope when they shut our servers down they give us a little more than a few weeks notice (or hours---)....but the writing is already on the wall ~

Oblivious Moose · Mar 31, 2008, 07:22 PM // 19:22

here's the rough translation if any1 is interested...

Title fierce combat Hong Kong and Macao area termination service bulletin Announces the time 2008.03.31

reading number of times 1,154 The dear fierce combat plays

the family hello:

Under thank your for more than two years to come to the fierce combat support and the loving care, the fierce combat Hong Kong and Macao area accompanies in a your group, has experienced the many times edition correction as well as many activities, still remembered when the Taiwan earthquake, the international partner spontaneous initiates [ likes spreading ] and so on the activity, lets Hong Kong and Macao play the family to feel completely the warmth.

Since the fierce combat unique game characteristic, has thank very much plays families continuously the support, but because the Hong Kong and Macao area agent contract soon expires in 2008, we are very regrettable must inform play the family, we soon in 2008 May 1, stop the fierce combat game service, we just and original factory ArenaNet carries on the member following rights and interests the processing discussion, both sides also agreed in will not affect plays the family to carry on the game under the premise, will discover the best solution way. .

In order to confirm the Hong Kong and Macao effective member account number as well as the rights and interests, we from April 1, will limit 制台 the Hong Kong and Macao account number part function, will carry on the detail consultation with the original factory after termination service member rights and interests, the correlation following detail as well as the member plays carries on the rights and interests to be able to announce Yu Kuanwang as soon as possible.

In order to avoid playing plays the family rights and interests to suffer injury, in has discussed after original factory ArenaNet, we will terminate the new account number in April 1 to open and so on the measure, the detailed content will include:

4/1 noon 12.00, the termination open the fierce combat game service function, no longer accepts the new fierce combat account number application.
4/1 noon 12.00, terminate the NCOIN purchase fierce combat game time commodity, the NCT platform no longer sells sells the fierce combat correlation game commodity
4/1, entire family will facilitate the store no longer to sell sells fierce combat entire family to buy the game serial number immediately.
4/1, carries on the partial games account number function to revise, throws including the cancellation the goods falls the ground function
The cancellation transmission code gives the non- Hong Kong and Macao account number member function
The cancellation enters the international region function
The cancellation plays the family transaction function with the non- Hong Kong and Macao area
Cancels the merchant price and the international area gearing function
5/1 noon 12.00, terminate the NCT platform serial number to store the value function
6/3 noon 12.00, closure fierce combat game homepage
The correlation following detail as well as the member will play will carry on the rights and interests to be able to announce Yu Kuanwang as soon as possible

Has thank you since once more to a fierce combat group support, and reiterated once again, 4/1 game content revises, cannot affect you to carry on majority of main PVE, PVP to the war game function, in following processing, we already aim at affect play the family to carry on the game under the premise, carries on the consultation with the original factory, please play the family not to have to worry and to be panic, if you on hand still have not yet Chu Chih fierce combat serial number, asks you immediately to carry on by all means must to the NCT member platform stores the value.

Achieves by no means regarding many services perfect or creates the game to inconvenience place, in this, the crew sends the deepest apology to all group support fierce combat members, and thank you once more to the fierce combat support.

The ginn sets up transport business team to present respectfully

IlikeGW · Mar 31, 2008, 07:25 PM // 19:25

That is pretty unfair to those that bought the game there. :/

Numa Pompilius · Mar 31, 2008, 07:26 PM // 19:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Winterclaw

Is that why Anet added PvE title grinding, to make NCsoft happy?

It did coincide with NCSoft taking a more active interest in Guild Wars (e.g. taking over support), possibly as a result of NCSoft feeling the squeeze of the Auto Assault flop and lukewarm reception of Tabula Rasa, so... quite possibly an NCSoft idea, yeah.

(Frankly I'm surprised ANet's managed to keep NCSoft from changing GW2's business model into subscription-based.)

Or, equally possibly, just a stopgap-measure to keep people from defecting from the guild wars franchise while GW2 was developed. Or perhaps both.

DivineEnvoy · Mar 31, 2008, 07:31 PM // 19:31

I don't believe Guild Wars is as attractive in Asia as it is to Europe or America.

There are only two reasons to this lockdown:

1. As for the given regions, it was rather expected. Chinese players, in general, prefer to spend a lengthy amount of time to leveling up their characters or getting wealthy. In short, they prefer the traditional type of MMORPG. I believe that most of these players were bored when they beat the storyline, and perhaps they have even made their exit by that point. Although Guild Wars can be an one-player game, to solo with Heroes and Henches, it is not very entertaining to play alone. Relevantly, with the decline of players, there weren't much profits to be made at that point to cover up the server cost and such. It is only logical to close down the server.

2. The recent Tibet issue may have been a trigger to it. Many western news have been making biased reports to sabotage China, and to ensure that no bandwagon effects are placed within its citizens, a further lockdown to internet is issued. The bandwagon problem has only been taken this seriously mainly due to the 2008 Olympics.

Shai Lee · Mar 31, 2008, 09:06 PM // 21:06

From the thread title, I was thinking that something happened over there in real life. o.O

Too bad the GW fans from over there won't be able to play. Hopefully at some point GW can be available to them again.