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serod · Apr 16, 2008, 09:27 PM // 21:27

This got me scared for a second.

WinterSnowblind · Apr 16, 2008, 09:28 PM // 21:28

Of course I don't want to see this happen with Guild Wars, as this is supposed to be a free to play game, charging us money for items would go completely against that.

However, I vastly prefer the method of paying money for items than I do paying a subscription fee. At least that way I'm only paying for content I need and want to use, instead of having to pay a ridiculous amount every month, even if I'm hardly playing. Assuming they don't take it too far (having to buy ammo, or whatever) then I think it's a much better system.

wilderness · Apr 16, 2008, 09:29 PM // 21:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nyktos

Still GW2 to worry about. Not that it matters, the chances of GW2 being good are close to 0 anyway.

You need sunshine as well as water to grow flowers, you know?

wraithe · Apr 16, 2008, 09:31 PM // 21:31

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Originally Posted by retro77

This is only for the Exteel game...geez read people!

you may need to have to read it again..

In addition to Exteel, NCcoin is expected to be incorporated globally into many of NCsoft’s existing and upcoming games.

Darkobra · Apr 16, 2008, 09:35 PM // 21:35

NCcoins destroyed Exteel. The items are just overpowering compared to anything you can get with credits.

But they don't care. As long as people cough up the cash.

JR · Apr 16, 2008, 09:35 PM // 21:35

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Originally Posted by wraithe

you may need to have to read it again..

In addition to Exteel, NCcoin is expected to be incorporated globally into many of NCsoft’s existing and upcoming games.

Hi.

NCSoft just publishes and distributes Guild Wars, it does not design or own it. The only way Guild Wars would ever use an NC Coin based business model is if ArenaNet wanted to.

More to the point, Guild Wars 2 will not be using this system. All of the drama and panic can stop now.

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Originally Posted by Darkobra

NCcoins destroyed Exteel. The items are just overpowering compared to anything you can get with credits.

But they don't care. As long as people cough up the cash.

Yeah! Damn them for trying to make money on a game they give away for free!

Nightmares Hammer · Apr 16, 2008, 09:36 PM // 21:36

So they ARE smoking weed.

ironox · Apr 16, 2008, 09:38 PM // 21:38

If GW2 is pay to play I won't be buying it. Doesn't matter how good it is. However, if they want to toss in something like this for skins and other cosmetic stuff that doesn't affect actual play (minipet evolutions?), then np for me.

But I suspect it would be a bad idea in that they would have to make the stuff you buy look so much better you really want it. This would make it less likely that normally available stuff would be good looking. Which would make for a blah game that people wouldn't buy.

Toxage · Apr 16, 2008, 09:39 PM // 21:39

Yeh, Arena Net would never try to profit off of real money for virtual items/cash ever.

Oh wait, they already did. gw-truth.blogspotDOTcom/ (Remove the DOT)

Fril Estelin · Apr 16, 2008, 09:40 PM // 21:40

Just in case NCsoft is thinking of pushing this into GW2 (I doubt it, but ...): I would not buy GW2, the no-monthly fee was one of the major factor why GW is what it is, this would make it a different game that I wouldn't buy.

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Originally Posted by Toxage

Oh wait, they already did. blablablabla (Remove the DOT)

Return of the B.S. The conspiracy theory is not where people think. There are some people (revengeful players? from a competing company? stupid trolls?) who are clearly making stuff up (I've asked many times these guys "proofs" and the replies were non-sensical, to say the least).

Toxage · Apr 16, 2008, 09:42 PM // 21:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by JR

Hi.
More to the point, Guild Wars 2 will not be using this system. All of the drama and panic can stop now.

How do you know?

Have you personally sat down and discussed this with Mike O'Brien,Patrick Wyatt
, or Jeff Strain?

I didn't think so.

Next time don't post information based on speculation.

Thanks

rose of zg · Apr 16, 2008, 09:43 PM // 21:43

do you wana buy ingame gold ? buy it from NCsoft

GW is sinking ........

Tarun · Apr 16, 2008, 09:44 PM // 21:44

Pay 11 bucks, get 250 ectos!

Alex the Great · Apr 16, 2008, 09:45 PM // 21:45

lol, this isnt gonna happen with guilds wars.

come on people, use your brains!

Darkobra · Apr 16, 2008, 09:46 PM // 21:46

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Originally Posted by JR

Yeah! Damn them for trying to make money on a game they give away for free!

Yeah! Imagine spending 50p for a gun that can take down 100 enemies when someone with skill and free guns can't touch them! It's a good business indeed!

At least, I ASSUME you've played the game. Right? Right?

JR · Apr 16, 2008, 09:46 PM // 21:46

I really don't see why there is such a strong negative reaction to the NC Coin model. It is after all designed for the free to play games that NCSoft provides (Dungeon Runners, Exteel...) as a way for them to get optional payment from the hardcore fans of the game.

You don't have to use it, and you don't even have to pay anything at all for the game if you don't want to. Without this kind of micro-transaction model NCSoft would probably be unable to release these free to play games at all. Whilst they may not be very popular in the western market they are particularly popular in Asia etc.

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Originally Posted by Toxage

Yeh, Arena Net would never try to profit off of real money for virtual items/cash ever.

This is NCSoft, not ArenaNet.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toxage

Oh wait, they already did. gw-truth.blogspotDOTcom/ (Remove the DOT)

The inane rants of some obsessed troll. If you have any kind of experience with the industry it's not hard to see through his garbage.

Toxage · Apr 16, 2008, 09:47 PM // 21:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex the Great

lol, this isnt gonna happen with guilds wars.

come on people, use your brains!

Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by JR
Hi.
More to the point, Guild Wars 2 will not be using this system. All of the drama and panic can stop now.

How do you know?

Have you personally sat down and discussed this with Mike O'Brien,Patrick Wyatt, or Jeff Strain?

I didn't think so.

Next time don't post information based on speculation.

Thanks

*Darcy* · Apr 16, 2008, 09:47 PM // 21:47

Read further down the webpage

ON NCSOFT BUSINESS MODELS:
“NCcoin is just one of many elements that make up the variety of business models NCsoft has to offer. We have grown to the point where if you are a MMOG player and you like the traditional subscription-based game, we have those. If you are an MMOG player seeking a free to play and download game with microtransactions, we have that. If you just want to pay for software and have lifetime play, we have that too. The bottom line for NCsoft is that we want to be able to offer a variety of business models to meet the needs of the different customers out there. NCcoin is another way to make it easier for customers to access the kind of game they want to play.”

Looks like the ArenaNet business model is safe.

JR · Apr 16, 2008, 09:50 PM // 21:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toxage

How do you know?

Have you personally sat down and discussed this with Mike O'Brien,Patrick Wyatt
, or Jeff Strain?

I didn't think so.

Next time don't post information based on speculation.

Thanks

Haha, I really don't feel the need to justify myself. It's not speculation.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darkobra

Yeah! Imagine spending 50p for a gun that can take down 100 enemies when someone with skill and free guns can't touch them! It's a good business indeed!

At least, I ASSUME you've played the game. Right? Right?

...and that's better than NCSoft getting no money at all from the game? They are not a charity, ya know.

The fact is that in order to milk money out of the game they need to give people an incentive to use the micro-transaction model. They give out the game free so people can try it and see if it fits them, then if they get into it they may choose to spend a few dollars. The game at its core always remains free.

Slayer Z · Apr 16, 2008, 09:52 PM // 21:52

I seriously doubt that this will effect GW and GW2 atall.

Making GW2 f2p with a item shop would be the stupidest move the Anet could make .

We dont want GW2 to be flooded with pre-teens screaming "OMG GIB ME MONEY I GOT HAKD" now do we?