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wetsparks · Apr 19, 2008, 05:30 AM // 05:30

If WoW has 10 million currently subscribing I think it is very reasonable that they sold several millions to people who have played and didn't like it or played and got bored and stopped their account.

dr strangelove, I have no idea what the Lineage numbers look like, but WoW only has 2.5 in america and has a whopping 5 million in asia. seems to me it is dominating more in asia than anywhere else.

Dr Strangelove · Apr 19, 2008, 05:37 AM // 05:37

My point, which seems to have been lost along the way, is that NCsoft is not poor, and is in fact one of the most successful PC game developers, certainly in the same league as Blizzard. Stop the slap-fights over WoW.

When I said Lineage 2 is more popular in Korea, I didn't mean that WoW has not also sold in Asia. I meant that Lineage 2 is primarily an Asian game that enjoyed almost no success in the US, while WoW did. I'm going to have to find my sources again for this too, aren't I....

http://www.massively.com/2007/11/08/...ption-numbers/

There, in particular, this:

Quote:

Originally Posted by My Link

Lineage
[World-Wide]: 1,143,699 subscriptions (-47,026 from 2007 Q2)
[North America]: 6,999 subscriptions (-2,094 from 2007 Q2)

Lineage II
[World-Wide]: 931,263 subscriptions (+27,007 from 2007 Q2)
[North America + Europe]: 78,953 subscriptions (-5,767 from 2007 Q2)

blood4blood · Apr 19, 2008, 05:44 AM // 05:44

*double post*

blood4blood · Apr 19, 2008, 05:44 AM // 05:44

I would love to see Play NC site totally disconnected from GW. As is I won't change my GW pw b/c I don't trust Play NC in the least, and I cannot file a report b/c the Play NC site doesn't recognize my account. If GW is issued through Play NC/NC Soft, I won't buy it. I like ArenaNet well enough, but NC Soft is about the worst game mfg. I've ever seen in the 28+ years I've been playing vid games.

EDIT: Actually, Microsoft is worst. Then PlayNC/NCSoft.

Rothen Kithkanan · Apr 19, 2008, 08:41 AM // 08:41

Uh....... who cares?

I dont use the ncsoft website so couldnt give a monkeys what it looks like. This is a GW site were on afterall, so as long as this, and the official GW site look nice, everythings rosey in my book

pumpkin pie · Apr 19, 2008, 03:14 PM // 15:14

let me guess, because they hire an advertising agency who is resposible for designing the webpage and the contract isn't over?

warcrap · Apr 19, 2008, 05:39 PM // 17:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr Strangelove

Lineage 2 has 17 million players, and is the second best selling PC game of all time, after The Sims. NCSoft has money to burn. However, their website is perfectly fine.

EDIT: Lineage 2 source

Sims source

imo i think ncsoft website is pretty empty.
plus lineage 2 has 17 million registered accounts but not all of them are active.

Buster · Apr 19, 2008, 06:09 PM // 18:09

I don't see anything wrong with either site honestly. I can navigate and find anything I want on either site just fine.

PlasticBlue · Apr 19, 2008, 06:21 PM // 18:21

I prefer them putting money in good game servers rather then a good site...
And as long as you can find what you are looking for and don't go blind while searching the website, I don't mind what it looks like.
Of course, eyecandy sites are nice... but they need a lot of work and are sometimes very heavy.
Less is more ^^

And about Lineage II, don't forget about all those people playing on private servers.

Ork Pride · Apr 19, 2008, 06:41 PM // 18:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kakumei

There's a difference between 'current' and 'all-time' players.

no shit sherlock.

enxa · Apr 19, 2008, 08:48 PM // 20:48

are you talking about plaync.com or ncsoft.com ?

plaync.com (eu) is quite ok, maybe a little basic in terms of info on games, but if you wanna know more theres always the official site.
ncsoft.com appears to be broke for me on firefox 2.0, but i recall visiting it some time earlier and i had no complaints about it.

slaximus · Apr 20, 2008, 02:00 PM // 14:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lawrence Chang

This person is obviously biased towards Blizzard and WoW.

No, I love Blizzard. Played WoW since beta and WC1-3 for a long time, just their website (blizzard.com) looks like crap. Blue on black, no textures, just frames...they haven't changed it in forever. PlayNC and NCSoft look alot more professional, and more eye pleasing.

Quote:

Originally Posted by warcrap

are you joking man?

Nope, are you kidding me? You like those two sites. Come on the Blizzard one can be put together in 5 minutes by a 10year old.

WoW website is to heavy I find. But I do like how they have lore and all that jazz on their main site.

Navigation on both NC sites are fine for me.

Willow O Whisper · Apr 20, 2008, 08:59 PM // 20:59

Sorry to say this but woulden't this be something to discuss at a ncsoft forum... to the op Ncsoft isen't Anet guildwars is made by anet....

pamelf · Apr 20, 2008, 09:58 PM // 21:58

I like NCSoft's design. It's minimalist....

Mr. G · Apr 20, 2008, 11:16 PM // 23:16

isnt this like 100% matter of opinion.....?

warcrap · Apr 20, 2008, 11:57 PM // 23:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Willow O Whisper

Sorry to say this but woulden't this be something to discuss at a ncsoft forum... to the op Ncsoft isen't Anet guildwars is made by anet....

i could'nt find any other forum so this was the second best thing.

DarkFlame · Apr 21, 2008, 04:20 AM // 04:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by warcrap

i could'nt find any other forum so this was the second best thing.

Still doesn't make much sense coming to a GW fansite that NcSoft does not read. The appropriate place to make such comments are here and here.

~ Dan ~ · Apr 21, 2008, 09:23 AM // 09:23

Pointless thread is pointless.

+1

isamu kurosawa · Apr 21, 2008, 01:13 PM // 13:13

As a web designer myself I have to say the blizzard website is hideous and unprofessional. They rely on a single flash animation in relation to design and then use trash for the rest of the page.

They break most ergonomic/HCI and usability guidelines making the site a chore to navigate while alienating a large portion of people with disability and accessibility issues.

Black backgrounds with those text colours are a big mistake. Links and various other parts of the site have poor css and the website scales poorly in non-standard resolutions.

The NCsoft site is in no way perfect itself but from a design and usage point of view is much better than the blizzard one.

warcrap · Apr 22, 2008, 02:12 AM // 02:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by isamu kurosawa

As a web designer myself I have to say the blizzard website is hideous and unprofessional. They rely on a single flash animation in relation to design and then use trash for the rest of the page.

They break most ergonomic/HCI and usability guidelines making the site a chore to navigate while alienating a large portion of people with disability and accessibility issues.

Black backgrounds with those text colours are a big mistake. Links and various other parts of the site have poor css and the website scales poorly in non-standard resolutions.

The NCsoft site is in no way perfect itself but from a design and usage point of view is much better than the blizzard one.

but my main point is that people are attracted to games with a decorative and flashy website.