Curse

Wildi · Jan 23, 2008, 12:21 PM // 12:21

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What do you think was the worst skill nerf

Chain Lightning.

RotteN · Jan 23, 2008, 12:44 PM // 12:44

Ether Renewal

unarguably the toughest nerf ever. Went from highly overpowered to no use at all.

~ Dan ~ · Jan 23, 2008, 12:52 PM // 12:52

[skill]Avatar of Grenth[/skill]

Just meant yet another useless dervish elite because anet can't balance a skill.

makosi · Jan 23, 2008, 12:53 PM // 12:53

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Originally Posted by Griff Mon

Of course, I got my due when minions got limited to 10....

I sort of agree with you on the minion nerf. During the Sorrow's Furnace farming days a MM could create a stampede of 30 minions and it would ravage through like locusts in a field. On ANet's defence, can you imaging 2 MMs with unlimited minions in Vizunah Square? 2 MMs controlling 10 minions is still overpowered (if I can use that word in PvE).

I'd say the EoE nerf was my worst. I realise it was being abused by griefers in AB but it has now lost its 'edge'. Excuse the pun.

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Originally Posted by RhanoctJocosa

I should dig up my old Tombs screen shots and show you how lovely 100+ bone fiends were. Also, lolirony.

Minion Factory was a good laugh but never wen't really far. It was only done for the lols.

Sarevok Thordin · Jan 23, 2008, 01:13 PM // 13:13

Incoming - Perfect example of destroying a skill. All they had to do was make sure that shout effect couldn't be reapplied for a short time but noooooo they had to go and completely mangle it beyond the point of being a useful NON-ELITE skill.
Avatar of Grenth - Brilliant for enchant removal when facing a bunch of overprotective players (E/D comes to mind), now the duration/recharge makes baby jesus cry ;_;

pah01 · Jan 23, 2008, 01:23 PM // 13:23

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Originally Posted by dan-the-noob

[skill]Avatar of Grenth[/skill]

Just meant yet another useless dervish elite because anet can't balance a skill.

I dont think this is a problem in the balance department.

I think its more of a problem in skill creation department. The whole idea of godforms is retarded.

Joe

~ Dan ~ · Jan 23, 2008, 01:32 PM // 13:32

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Originally Posted by pah01

I dont think this is a problem in the balance department.

I think its more of a problem in skill creation department. The whole idea of godforms is retarded.

Joe

Well, yeah, but so is half the assassin line. Anet fail to see the difference between nerfing a skill to balance it, or omgwtf destroying it so it never sees play again. That's why they wrecked this game, gj.

Avarre · Jan 23, 2008, 02:00 PM // 14:00

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Originally Posted by dan-the-noob

Well, yeah, but so is half the assassin line. Anet fail to see the difference between nerfing a skill to balance it, or omgwtf destroying it so it never sees play again. That's why they wrecked this game, gj.

I'd rather not have seen the skill implemented (AoG), so beating it out of use was just as good. Maybe it would have been better to just remove the skill entirely.

Surena · Jan 23, 2008, 02:47 PM // 14:47

Shield and Absorption nerf.

Edit: I can't read.

Aera · Jan 23, 2008, 03:00 PM // 15:00

Gale

LoD
Blackout

Also - anyone else noticed the PvE crew only thinks some skills ( like Splinter Weapon ) was a nerf? Because they can't farm any more...sigh... skill balance > all.

Numa Pompilius · Jan 23, 2008, 03:01 PM // 15:01

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Originally Posted by Longasc

I think all skill got nerfed with Ursan Blessing.

There is truth in that. I was out with H/H doing combined vanquishing & mapping in Elona today, and after a pitstop in a town I didn't even bother to fill up my skillbar: there was no point, because I only used one skill the whole time. Ursan blessing.

So yeah, I guess the norn skills have effectively rendered all other skills in the game useless, and yeah, I suppose that's the worst and most damaging nerf ever.

EDIT: Aera, I'm PvE, and my main complaint besides the silly PvE skills was the nerf of the mesmer energy denial skills. Stereotyping ftl.

BenjZee · Jan 23, 2008, 03:19 PM // 15:19

the only one i got really annoyed about was seed of life. it was such a nice little monk skill

high sunspear = deserve the overpoweredness

55 monking is still good but i beleve some troll farmin got nerfed ...wasnt happy. Unlimited Minions was pretty cool and i can see why they nerfed it

super strokey · Jan 23, 2008, 03:45 PM // 15:45

Ritual lord and veratas sacrifice

Turtle222 · Jan 23, 2008, 03:52 PM // 15:52

incoming

gale

darkdreamr · Jan 23, 2008, 03:54 PM // 15:54

Spiritual Pain. RIP.

Spike · Jan 23, 2008, 04:16 PM // 16:16

Soul Reaping, EOE and for sheer stupidness the no more pet corpses

Hyper Cutter · Jan 23, 2008, 04:35 PM // 16:35

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Originally Posted by Harrier's haste

Nah, after the so called "nerf" the caster class actually HAVE a chance of living on, instead of just getting showered by like 50+ damage 1 kd and then: death.

And hey, it still kills nowadays and people still uses it, so there is no reason for you to complain.

HotO was just fine for almost two years, there was no reason to nerf it now.

Wait, that sounds familiar... *coughSoulReapingtimercough*

CougarTheTall · Jan 23, 2008, 04:40 PM // 16:40

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Originally Posted by Wild Karrde

this post makes me laugh, Cougar it sounds like you dont know how to play a sin very well so you need to wait for someone to find some build for a sin that can instagib someone so you and all the other bad sins can ride on it untill it gets nerfed. I still see plenty of sins in AB and arenas and alwasy have. Maybe you should jump on the ass caster builds, theres a build you dont have to think of on your own and you can enjoy pwning people until it gets nerfed then you can come on here and complain again until another build is made up for you to use, instead of actually trying to make a good build yourself. AoD is a better shadowstep than SP imo, learn to play a sin before complaining all the instagib/unballanced builds get nerfed.

on topic I didnt like the LoD nerf but I can see why, I woulda preferred a drop in healing rather than cast time though.

You sir, are an idiot. Congratulations on reading a bunch of crap into my quote that wasn't there and was not mentioned upon.

I rarely play sin. I'm not complaining, I've made plenty of good builds (trust me on this).

Other than that, I can't really reply because you misunderstood my post so horribly that the rest of what you said is so hilariously misinformed and wrong I can do nothing more than laugh at you.

nebuchanezzar · Jan 23, 2008, 04:45 PM // 16:45

Worst is such a...ambiguous term, so open to personal tastes. There are quite a few that stand out and for different reasons at different times. For skill nerfs...
Gale
The entire Inspiration line and OoB to hamstring Boon Prots
Ether Renewal
Protective Bond
I really hated removing armor swapping from pvp even though I 100% agree with the balance principle of it. I deleted 5 pve chars within the next few days as a result.
I was hit by the change in damage reduction on shields to only physical damage as I had quite a solid collection of dual modded shields but the inscription system that later came killed them just as much.
Nothing game killing though imo, there are still many things that need nerfs that don't get them. Conversely there are a plethora of skills deserving of buffs or at least rebalancing that just wont get them.

MithranArkanere · Jan 23, 2008, 04:59 PM // 16:59

I can't remember bad skill nerfs.

Elementalist get good buffs.

Other professions getting nerfs and elementalists getting buffs it's good. Since I favor the elementalist profession.

Isn't that great? Yay! XD

(Now the Karma will punish me for this with a huge nerf to eles in the next skill update, XDDD)

Nah. I never care about skill nerfs.
Anytime I enter an outpost, I think "What I'm goin to need?" I see the elites, pick the one that most fits the place, and then pick the rest of the skills based on that.

I've also beate both Prophecies and Factions with the very same build, so in PvE skill nerfs only hurt farmers, and in PvP only hurt lazy build-clingers that do not like tho change builds.