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Warskull · Oct 24, 2007, 12:32 AM // 00:32

PvX Wiki is full of terrible builds. I prefer to use effective builds.

eudas · Oct 24, 2007, 12:43 AM // 00:43

i use builds from guildwiki, or pvxwiki as it is now, it's easier to use someone else's wheel than it is to constantly reinvent the wheel. they provide a good starting point of something that at least baseline works for you to base further works off of, and show you new skill interactions that you might not have thought of.

of course, once you become an expert at a class, you either know most of the combos or can come up with your own builds that work well.

eudas

Esan · Oct 24, 2007, 12:47 AM // 00:47

I read it and rate the occasional build that seems worth washing through a couple rounds of RA. PvXWiki are doing a better job than GuildWiki at keeping the trash out. (I wish they would stop using the silly Build: namespace.) In my opinion, the utility of such a wiki is not so much in copying a build but in seeing skills used in interesting tactical combinations. Burying that in mostly useless attributes and equipment trivia seems like wasted effort.

Now, about using these builds seriously, I have yet to find one that will significantly alter my standard ranger, monk and mesmer bars.

Bryant Again · Oct 24, 2007, 12:48 AM // 00:48

Eh I used to use the builds off of Guildwiki when they had them on there. Fortunately, I've broken off of that and have been having fun ever since. Good place to get some ideas, though.

The Meth · Oct 24, 2007, 12:49 AM // 00:49

Only time I really use it for builds is when I'm in places like elite missions where the only available groups are elitist noobs who will kick you instantly if your build doesn't conform 100% to the current cookie cutter on wiki. It sucks but in places like the deep thats all you can get a group with.

unienaule · Oct 24, 2007, 12:51 AM // 00:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Warskull

PvX Wiki is full of terrible builds. I prefer to use effective builds.

What he said.

Aerial Assault · Oct 24, 2007, 12:53 AM // 00:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Esan

In my opinion, the utility of such a wiki is not so much in copying a build but in seeing skills used in interesting tactical combinations. Burying that in mostly useless attributes and equipment trivia seems like wasted effort.

Now, about using these builds seriously, I have yet to find one that will significantly alter my standard ranger, monk and mesmer bars.

QFT. I dont know why some people look down or actively trash Wiki and the builds within them. It IS good for research, and tweaking some of those builds posted on there makes for interesting results ... esp tweaking PvP-based builds and then applying them in PvE.

Also, I have stumbled upon builds myself focusing on exploiting overpowered skills and synergizing them with other skills ...only to have found out it was an actual Wiki build, not to my surprise either, as it is the nature of the game.

unienaule · Oct 24, 2007, 01:20 AM // 01:20

Well, I see it more like this:
10 Hey, this is crap
20 Goto 10

Sometimes there are good builds, but I could generally have used that time to try out my own builds which does something wiki doesn't. It teaches me why things are good/bad instead of "slap this on and win."

Smile Like Umean It · Oct 24, 2007, 01:46 AM // 01:46

I look up farming builds sometimes as I don't feel like actually taking time out to think of most of them.

When I want a new build there is an odd occasion that I will find a build on there, gut it, and rebuild it to suit what I want.

Monique · Oct 24, 2007, 01:48 AM // 01:48

Get my farming builds from farming partners, use random PvP builds for AB, which I find on PvXwiki.

Zeek Aran · Oct 24, 2007, 01:49 AM // 01:49

I look at them for ideas and modify to my liking. All my best builds I made myself.

icedwhitemocha · Oct 24, 2007, 01:51 AM // 01:51

Never even looked, have no desire to.

Obs mode > PvX wiki

For pve, knowing what I'll be facing and being familiar with all the skills means I can make an efficient build on my own more quickly than browsing through a billion bad ones.

azizul1975 · Oct 24, 2007, 01:56 AM // 01:56

i normally look it up to get general idea of build for certain profession i never played before. most of the time i try to build my own skill bar.

Cale Roughstar · Oct 24, 2007, 02:33 AM // 02:33

I only use it for farming builds. Heroes I mostly just make up my own stuff. However, I often find myself using builds posted here on Guru. Just found a 3hero set that has me ballin' (

) through HM

Sinnocent · Oct 24, 2007, 02:48 AM // 02:48

Never.

I feel that I learn more about particular skills and become more familiar with their usage, along with combinations, simply by experimenting on my own.

bebe · Oct 24, 2007, 02:59 AM // 02:59

I take the builds then takeout and put in some skills for my own customization. xD

chowmein69 · Oct 24, 2007, 02:59 AM // 02:59

i only use the PvX heroe builds

Sakura Az · Oct 24, 2007, 03:21 AM // 03:21

I ususaly just look for skill combonations that i have missed from the game, so its mostly reserch for me. the builds i end up useing come from usualy a few weeks of working on till i get it just right for me.

blakecraw · Oct 24, 2007, 03:24 AM // 03:24

i've never copied a build from the site as i've found most (all) of them to be severely lacking, but occasionally people tell me to stop using wiki builds. go figure.

arcanemacabre · Oct 24, 2007, 03:51 AM // 03:51

The PvX builds are a great place to start for beginners of a particular class or the game in general. It's also a decent source for ideas if you want to try some new synergy. To copy the builds and use them as they are is just not taking advantage of one of the main things that makes GW so fun - making the builds in the first place.