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knoll · Apr 10, 2008, 12:25 AM // 00:25

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Originally Posted by feedmenow

ALL these new pve guilds?? Haven't you thought about if these guilds were already around in the first place, and THEN Ursan came out? Now that would make more sense. Maybe this thread and other sources have made some sort of image in your mind saying theres a whole bunch of new pve guilds.

If there was no UB, what would happen? Well, obviously runs MAY take a bit longer, MAYBE not. All UB is is a new and simple alternative to other builds.

Did I ever say they were new guilds?

romeus petrus · Apr 10, 2008, 12:37 AM // 00:37

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Originally Posted by knoll

Did I ever say they were new guilds?

I think there was some slight miscommunication there. Knoll expressed a point of view that some of us took the wrong way. I am glad he clarified to a certain degree what he meant. Moving on.

Th Fooster · Apr 10, 2008, 12:47 AM // 00:47

ok that time with 42 minutes UW clear in HM was done with people froom three different guilds, and each has a screenshot. there are SEVERAL surces of evedence.I will also be happy to give all the details as to exactly how we did it to anyone, including the builds and who does what and when. Thats my response to unbleievers that cry photoshop.Just because you cant understand how we did it does not make it a lie it jsut simply means its beyond what you have ever known.It is one thing t know HOW we did it and another thing all together to acuallty pull it off.

Now as for the ursan critics i understand and TO SOME DEGREE i agree with them HOWEVER.... i challenge anyone to even come close to 42 minutes with ursan or no ursan.. cons or no cons.. rare is the ursan group that can get under an hour! most averaage 1:30! so despite how cheesy ursan can be, we have taken ursan and done something that no pug can accomplish.

Now as for how fast we could do it balanced HM with no cons OR pve skills... our group will eventualy do that challenge after we get ursan down to 30 minutes. we know its possible in theory just VERY hard. these times are a testemint to BOTH team work and individual skill regardles of the ursan and the cons, and i chalenge any ursan group to beat it.in fact if someone can provide more than one source of proof of beating our time with whatever build and cons and all that.... i will give each person in that group 10 k. *edit* now that means if we break our own record before anyone else... that challenge renews itself to the fastest time... so if our best is changed to 30 minutes... and an hour later someone hits 41 minutes... that dont get nothn! they gotta beat our current best time.

Hailfall · Apr 10, 2008, 01:23 AM // 01:23

i think the 21 min Deep run was done with a good friend of mine, he told me he did a 21 min deep run with that setup.

We actually got FOW HM down to 42 mins (sorry i was not there for the run so no screens from me there), fastest run i have been in was 46 mins though. ^^

Nemo the Capitalist · Apr 10, 2008, 01:53 AM // 01:53

DOA nm 90 minutes full run

romeus petrus · Apr 10, 2008, 03:40 AM // 03:40

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Originally Posted by Nemo the Capitalist

DOA nm 90 minutes full run

Is that including Mallyx or just the four areas?

Snow Bunny · Apr 10, 2008, 04:16 AM // 04:16

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Originally Posted by romeus petrus

If you visit our website you will find screens of various elite areas runs done non-ursan style and with no consumeables. I am sure you will find the same if you visit the websites of the rest of the fine guilds taking the time and effort to post their record times in this thread, for everyone to see how fast it can really be done.

This is like the Bspike equivalent of PvE too be honest.
If you did it with Non-Ursan/non-consumable bars I'd actually consider some of this impressive. As it were, even for how fast it is, doesn't really show off anything. At all.

I know it sounds like trolling, but I'm looking at all this, and none of it is a. very competitive b. impressive.

Even do it Imbagon way would be more interesting.

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Originally Posted by feedmenow

obviously runs MAY take a bit longer, MAYBE not.

Don't be an idiot. You know they'd take longer.

romeus petrus · Apr 10, 2008, 04:33 AM // 04:33

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Originally Posted by Snow Bunny

I know it sounds like trolling, but I'm looking at all this, and none of it is a. very competitive b. impressive.

The title of the thread is "Fastest Elite area times"; most of the screens that were posted in the thread are directly related to the OP. Not a whole lot of competition, just various guilds posting their best times in certain areas considered elite.

The issue of cons and PvE skills was brought up every time a person looks at these times and thinks "oh crap that's less than half the time it takes me to do it on a good day." I would suggest that you go back and review the entire thread.

Now keeping in mind that none of the people who posted their times and screens here had the slightest intention of impressing you when they did it; I would still say if you think it is so easy, then go right ahead and show us a screen of you doing it in a similar time, using whichever build/cons you wish. Until you provide such a screen, and like you said; you do sound like you're just trolling.

angmar_nite · Apr 10, 2008, 05:00 AM // 05:00

Clearly you haven't gazed upon SMS's NON ursan times.

Th Fooster · Apr 10, 2008, 05:09 AM // 05:09

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Originally Posted by Snow Bunny

This is like the Bspike equivalent of PvE too be honest.
If you did it with Non-Ursan/non-consumable bars I'd actually consider some of this impressive. As it were, even for how fast it is, doesn't really show off anything. At all.

I know it sounds like trolling, but I'm looking at all this, and none of it is a. very competitive b. impressive.

Even do it Imbagon way would be more interesting.

Don't be an idiot. You know they'd take longer.

that is trolling. the most extreme case of it! besides who says anyone has to impress him? he was curious enough to look at the thread..and i havent seen him post anything even close to these times

as a matter of fact ill give him an extra 20 K if he can match our time in uw.
the good thing about ursan is it gets humans playing together again. after NF people were jsut hero henching everything! even hoh for a while!
Ursan gets people playing in groups again.andd has inspired this thread which i find fun. there are some really nice deerp times and fow times posted here!

now the guy thats just trolling crying about ursan sounds upset because he cant match half of those times with ursan. either that or he is some rank 9 pvp scrub that thinks he is better cos he has a tiger. rank 9 ego.

face it dude ursan is here to stay and anet wont nerf it because it keeps humans in groups with each other.and before you say it... NO not only noobs use ursan.alot of pple use ursan because its fast and fun. why spend 2 hours in UW when you can do it in less than 1 hour easily

romeus petrus · Apr 10, 2008, 12:57 PM // 12:57

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Originally Posted by angmar_nite

Clearly you haven't gazed upon SMS's NON ursan times.

Clearly you haven't gazed upon ours

Snow Bunny · Apr 10, 2008, 03:32 PM // 15:32

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Originally Posted by Th Fooster

now the guy thats just trolling crying about ursan sounds upset because he cant match half of those times with ursan. either that or he is some rank 9 pvp scrub

I lol'd irl.

TAM has some impressive times with no-PvE skills or consumables, some of which are not so far away from these. I'll have to put them up

Celebrian · Apr 10, 2008, 05:40 PM // 17:40

82mins NM doa run done...ages ago by [agro] and friends

romeus petrus · Apr 10, 2008, 06:00 PM // 18:00

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Originally Posted by Celebrian

82mins NM doa run done...ages ago by [agro] and friends

First let me make it clear that I am not doubting you guys did it in 82 min. I think it is doable in NM in that amount of time and gj on the nice time.

What I want to point out when it comes to DoA is that you will probably need your minimap in the same screen, as some people could do each quest seperately and then screen the time they spent doing foundry alone for example as the total time they spent on the map.

Grats on the nice time, we haven't done DOA NM in a good while. We will probably go back to DoA HM full runs early next week, our time there is around 3 hours with Mallyx dead (kinda hard to prove coz you would have to zone and stuff), and that includes zoning an a break before mallyx. But I will try to post our time for the quad run (without Mallyx) next week, we usually get between 2-2.5h or so for that.

Thx for sharing.

K O S T A S · Apr 10, 2008, 06:18 PM // 18:18

DoA Quad Run NM 1.14, like 1month ago...Still believe that it is possible in 1.05

romeus petrus · Apr 10, 2008, 06:27 PM // 18:27

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Originally Posted by K O S T A S

DoA Quad Run NM 1.14, like 1month ago...Still believe that it is possible in 1.05

Yep that's the screen I'm talking about. Grats.

Fates · Apr 10, 2008, 06:30 PM // 18:30

Why did you block out Ursan up top?

K O S T A S · Apr 10, 2008, 06:32 PM // 18:32

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Originally Posted by Fates Monk

Why did you block out Ursan up top?

Everyone has his reasons for doing something

But seriously, I was not ursan

Celebrian · Apr 10, 2008, 06:37 PM // 18:37

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Originally Posted by romeus petrus

First let me make it clear that I am not doubting you guys did it in 82 min. I think it is doable in NM in that amount of time and gj on the nice time.

What I want to point out when it comes to DoA is that you will probably need your minimap in the same screen, as some people could do each quest seperately and then screen the time they spent doing foundry alone for example as the total time they spent on the map.

i can see your point, so if you like i can post some other screens of very similar (but slightly slower) times of 4 area doa runs with a mini map in?

Racthoh · Apr 10, 2008, 06:47 PM // 18:47

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Originally Posted by Fates Monk

Why did you block out Ursan up top?

628 health would be a little low for an Ursan with a Grail of Might.