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Flav · May 31, 2008, 04:23 PM // 16:23

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Originally Posted by Zsig

If it really works like that then it's actually worse than 2x 20% HCT mods.

C'mon people, think about it

1x 40% = 40% of chance of halving casting time.

2x 20% = 36% of chance of halving casting time AND 4% of chance of 1/4 casting time.

Hows this weapon any better than what we already got?

Your math is wrong. It's 4% chance of quarter cast, 32% chance of half cast, and 64% chance of standard cast for a total of 100% of all the possibilities.

Zsig · May 31, 2008, 04:30 PM // 16:30

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Originally Posted by evenfall

2x 20% = 32% of chance of halving casting time AND 4% of chance of 1/4 casting time.

Oh, sorry, my bad. I think i miscalculated it somehow.

Neo Nugget · May 31, 2008, 04:34 PM // 16:34

Whats the skin? Regular water staff?

nbajammer · May 31, 2008, 04:51 PM // 16:51

Astral Staff dyed white

Steps_Descending · May 31, 2008, 05:33 PM // 17:33

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Originally Posted by Avarre

They probably just tried to compress the text but forgot how Guild Wars actually works

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Originally Posted by Tatile

They've been doing that a lot recently, as the GWEN staves are mostly saying +15 energy rather than +10 +5.

Two lots of 20% are different to one lot of 40% chances, those poor text monkies probably weren't told that.

Probably what they did. Either way, that will still depend on HOW they BUILT the staff, not how they WORDED. They may have written HCT 40% and programmed 20%x2. Or make the full mistake wirte and program 40%.

The latter would be both stronger and weaker, allowing more constant 1/2CT but impossibility of 1/4CT.

Unique staff : Yes (good thing if you ask me)
More powerful : probably, slightly more predictable but still random (radomness is good if you ask me)
Out of balance : not sure, 8% less 1/2CT, 4% 1/4 CT lost, 1 1/2CT is lost every 12 hit, I don't think this will decide more than 1 game per month(sp?) for a very active gamer playing exclusively water elem and exclusively PvP. (You have to lose/win a game because of a)a water spell able to finish the game b)said spell actually finishing the game(no last-second prot/heal) c)must be cast during the last .5 or 1 sec of the match and d)not having a delayed(shatterstone, missiles).

Tatile · May 31, 2008, 05:37 PM // 17:37

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Originally Posted by Steps_Descending

Probably what they did. Either way, that will still depend on HOW they BUILT the staff, not how they WORDED. They may have written HCT 40% and programmed 20%x2. Or make the full mistake wirte and program 40%.

Very true. I expect there are a few here who will be spending some time figuring that out. The results should be quite interesting.

JR · May 31, 2008, 05:56 PM // 17:56

Even if it is actually 40% in practice, then a standard Water staff with the right mods is still better. I'd take 6% QCT over 8% HCT any day.

acerbity · May 31, 2008, 06:07 PM // 18:07

Sorry to disappoint but i just "qct"ed on deep freeze with this staff.

Rexion · May 31, 2008, 06:09 PM // 18:09

*pulls out hydromancer snare build on ele*
watch out Kurzicks

Tyla · May 31, 2008, 06:09 PM // 18:09

^This stave WILL be MINE!

**cosyfiep** · May 31, 2008, 06:45 PM // 18:45

cool I like the astral skin....and I need a water staff----ugh that boss is in an inconvenient place....ah well need the ebon points anyways.....

Crom The Pale · May 31, 2008, 08:06 PM // 20:06

This must be a PvP thread...since in PvE we have [Mindbender] granting 50% casting times, not to mention consumables.....

Divinus Stella · May 31, 2008, 08:19 PM // 20:19

But the fast casting on weapons stacks with the fast casting from mindbender so if your only restriction in a build is time then you really want all the fast casting you can get.

Dante the Warlord · May 31, 2008, 09:03 PM // 21:03

Hmm i see the argument, there is more of a chance for HCT, but no chance for a double HCT... Is this slightly better or worse?

Longasc · May 31, 2008, 09:10 PM // 21:10

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Originally Posted by acerbity

Sorry to disappoint but i just "qct"ed on deep freeze with this staff.

Which tells us that some scrub at ANet made a mistake and thought

"if 10+5=15, then 20%+20% must be 40%!"

If someone can confirm your observation then it is official that it is not a new mod but just a mistake of the description.

I just wonder that they do not take the descriptions from the item stats and add them manually (?).

Musei Karasu · May 31, 2008, 09:10 PM // 21:10

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Originally Posted by acerbity

Sorry to disappoint but i just "qct"ed on deep freeze with this staff.

/thread

12chars

KamikazeChicken · May 31, 2008, 09:13 PM // 21:13

Assume the staff is 20/20, not 40%. Greens consolidate common attributes down to a single entry, but the game still has it built as 20/20. I do hope somebody goes to the trouble of trying to prove or disprove it though.

Chrono Re delle Ere · May 31, 2008, 09:20 PM // 21:20

Oh my gawd, greenies revenge! The imba greenies are coming for us!

JR · May 31, 2008, 10:21 PM // 22:21

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Originally Posted by acerbity

Sorry to disappoint but i just "qct"ed on deep freeze with this staff.

Then the description is wrong, and Anet messed up again.

KamikazeChicken · May 31, 2008, 11:09 PM // 23:09

The description might be wrong, but Anet just never thought about this situation when they changed how greens display stats. Everything started showing +15 eng or +60 health instead of showing each component separately; it's the player's job to know that it's really 10+5 and 30+30.

On a side note, do old greens like the Nightbringer drop showing 40% now or are those still 20+20?