Curse

rick1027 · Jun 18, 2008, 07:04 PM // 19:04

itll shoot back up there after this weekend we got the gwen titles double rep points

ALF71BE · Jun 18, 2008, 07:16 PM // 19:16

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Originally Posted by Xx_Sorin_xX

should be rectified in the manner of benefiting the player base.

I say, FREE UW SCROLLS, 10 for each minute the system didn't gave!

Steboy93 · Jun 18, 2008, 07:16 PM // 19:16

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Originally Posted by rick1027

itll shoot back up there after this weekend we got the gwen titles double rep points

I don't think rep titles go towards favour.

JONO51 · Jun 18, 2008, 08:25 PM // 20:25

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Originally Posted by rick1027

itll shoot back up there after this weekend we got the gwen titles double rep points

GWEN rep's dont count.

Phineas · Jun 19, 2008, 03:47 AM // 03:47

Well... 2 days later and the favor has dropped to 4,680, or by 500/day.

I fully agree that favor will start to work as intended when we get back to zero, but I disagree with the view that we will still have it ~75% of the time. I do not think that there will be enough people maxing titles to keep it at that kind of level, and at the very least it could become geocentric with players who play the same timezone as the continent achieving the most 'having the favor '.

For arguements sake, if most titles are achieved by Americans then the chance is that players in other continents will not benefit from access time when the current mechanic is meant to reward everyone, not just the continent with the most achievers.

Shanaeri Rynale · Jun 19, 2008, 06:48 AM // 06:48

Are'nt we owed 28,000 mins after the overflow glitch wiped it out over the last last SS/LB weekend?

Remembering a loong way back
By Sat evening favor hit 36K, it reset to 0
By the end of the event we had earned some 32K back.
Deducting the amount Anet said we did'nt earn leaves us with 28K min in credit.

*hides and runs*

Chthon · Jun 19, 2008, 06:00 PM // 18:00

35791 minutes to be exact.

Shakti · Jun 19, 2008, 06:07 PM // 18:07

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Originally Posted by Phineas

Well... 2 days later and the favor has dropped to 4,680, or by 500/day.

I fully agree that favor will start to work as intended when we get back to zero, but I disagree with the view that we will still have it ~75% of the time. I do not think that there will be enough people maxing titles to keep it at that kind of level, and at the very least it could become geocentric with players who play the same timezone as the continent achieving the most 'having the favor '.

For arguements sake, if most titles are achieved by Americans then the chance is that players in other continents will not benefit from access time when the current mechanic is meant to reward everyone, not just the continent with the most achievers.

Favor isn't awarded by region anymore though. It's granted to the "world" through titles equally isn't it?

Sneaky Cat · Jun 19, 2008, 06:09 PM // 18:09

good thing I save my UW scrolls

viper11025 · Jun 19, 2008, 06:16 PM // 18:16

Id probably laugh my but off the day it hits zero
THAT would be so awesome to se all the QQ's in ToA.

Abedeus · Jun 19, 2008, 06:20 PM // 18:20

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Originally Posted by Shanaeri Rynale

gjasigjasg

Worst use of ' 's ever. It's Aren't and Didn't.

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GWEN rep's dont count.

Yeah, I think a.net forgot about it.

Ate of DK · Jun 19, 2008, 06:26 PM // 18:26

Please let favor finaly end. Would be so much fun if everything went back to normal.

Thizzle · Jun 19, 2008, 06:28 PM // 18:28

I don't think that many would QQ. The smart thing to do would do go and buy tons of FoW/UW scrolls which are like 100-200 gold and then re-sell them when they get expensive or just use them.

Ate of DK · Jun 19, 2008, 06:37 PM // 18:37

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Originally Posted by Thizzle

I don't think that many would QQ. The smart thing to do would do go and buy tons of FoW/UW scrolls which are like 100-200 gold and then re-sell them when they get expensive or just use them.

UW scrolls cost 1.2K earlier today. I believe the FoW scrolls are 800g.

Before the huge amount of favor, people were selling scrolls because they weren't available at the merchant like Shadow Arts runes atm. Some were willing to pay 2,5K-3K for each scroll. So investing in scrolls might be a good move.

Anyway, my guess would be that many thought of this allready and bought a huge amount of scrolls. Which means they will flood the market with scrolls when the favor runs out and the price might actualy go down.

Farming bosses earned more gold when some scrolls drop every now and then. And I know of enough people who have saved all their UW/FoW scrolls for that moment when favor is gone.

Also a sudden nerf to a few farm builds might reduce the number of scrolls wanted to farm. Which means that the ecto price would rise. So investing in ecto's instead of scrolls might even be better.

Offcourse the word might is a keyword in my post. Nothing is for sure.

Kumu Honua · Jun 19, 2008, 06:40 PM // 18:40

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Originally Posted by Shanaeri Rynale

Are'nt we owed 28,000 mins after the overflow glitch wiped it out over the last last SS/LB weekend?

Makes me glad that Anet doesn't have a refund policy.

phan · Jun 19, 2008, 06:46 PM // 18:46

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Originally Posted by Thizzle

I don't think that many would QQ. The smart thing to do would do go and buy tons of FoW/UW scrolls which are like 100-200 gold and then re-sell them when they get expensive or just use them.

No they are not ; minimal sell price : 500gp[at trader] ; minimal buy price [at trader] : 1k .

Elite scroll traders do exist people :/

I wish people would stop posting nonsense on forums ; but then again thats like wishing for worldpeace I guess .

trankle · Jun 19, 2008, 07:43 PM // 19:43

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Originally Posted by Shakti

Favor isn't awarded by region anymore though. It's granted to the "world" through titles equally isn't it?

I think he's imaging a scenario in which the amount of favor earned each day lasts for a few hours then runs out. When west coast US would provide a bump into a few hours of favor in the evening, Europeans may be asleep, and would miss out, creating the effect of a favor system based on time zone.

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Originally Posted by Xx_Sorin_xX

Besides, you came out ahead anyway. I believe that you'd be a person that if I said here's $1000, have fun, and then decided I'd only give you $500...you'd complain. I say this because this is exactly what you, and many others are doing now. Yes, I screwed you by taking back what I said I would give, but I was still giving it to you, and you still came out way ahead. You should be happy they atleast you gave you something. Anet could easily say, "due to the problems that pop up more often in weekend events than in weekdays, we are going to stop the bonus weekends." It's the simplest solution, and frankly the deserving solution considering the exuberant amounts of complaining and whining they receive daily.

No, that's not what it's like. It's like saying "The way you can earn access to content you paid for is by maxing titles."

Players maxed titles, which was their end of the deal. And, as Cthon explained above, each character has a finite number of titles. It's not as though players can go back and redo those titles later at a rate Anet is happier with. They are gone. I think it's perfectly fine for Anet to change they way they do favor, after they reinstate the minutes the players earned. But to just erase them.....no. As Palawa Joko said, "A Deal's a Deal".

Believe me, I'm the first guy to call out players' false senses of entitlement, but this is, like, actual entitlement.

Better yet, Anet could eliminate the ridiculous favor system entirely. It's always been an awful idea.

**cosyfiep** · Jun 19, 2008, 07:52 PM // 19:52

hey my mes got grand master carto last night....added 3 minutes...and my rit is almost done with elona for the same title.....just cant do them all that fast by myself

Phineas · Jun 19, 2008, 10:36 PM // 22:36

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Originally Posted by trankle

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Originally Posted by Shakti
Favor isn't awarded by region anymore though. It's granted to the "world" through titles equally isn't it?

I think he's imaging a scenario in which the amount of favor earned each day lasts for a few hours then runs out. When west coast US would provide a bump into a few hours of favor in the evening, Europeans may be asleep, and would miss out, creating the effect of a favor system based on time zone.

Yes, thank you trankle, that's the point I was making.

Gun Pierson · Jun 20, 2008, 12:54 AM // 00:54

The scroll trader gives 1k for it, the merchant 500g. A lot of people don't know this and sell for 700-900g as they only check at the merchant at ToA. I even encountered a perma sin who sold his scrolls (700g a piece) and went right in again whispering me: 'That was a weird trade, I just paid 1k to get in'.

me: 'Uh yeah mate, tx btw and hf farming the globs.'