Curse

Jaythen Tyradel · May 19, 2008, 03:07 PM // 15:07

I am more along the lines of "Keep it Simple Stupid" when it comes to more weapons being added into the HoM.

Not everyone does or will own all the campaigns. True, they may not be the target for the HoM, but to keep it open to those who own one campaign, something simpler may be necessary.
As previously stated, with the introduction to endgame greens with Prophecies, the possibility of end game greens being the new addition to the HoM falls within the idea of "keeping it simple (stupid)".

To get endgame green, outside of buying one, you have to complete the final boss. Except for certain professions or player experience, all the endgame bosses are somewhat feasible to beat with little to no trouble. The ease for some players to beat the endgame boss or even buy the endgame weapons, doesn't add to the idea of the HoM's "only the greatest of weapons may be shown".
With Tormented weapons, they are more difficult to obtain, but yet, not everyone owns Nightfall. Same with Celestial weapons, not everyone owns Factions. There may be people who are interested or desperate (collection addicts) enough to buy the other campaigns for these weapons.

Yet, even the incentive to go through the trouble of obtaining them outweighs the true reward. (SMALL GW2 RANT) IF we knew what we put into our HoM would equate to in GW2, then the reward might equal the time we as the players would be willing or want to spend in GW1. Since we don't know what a Tormented weapon would give us over a Destroyer Weapon (or whatever type of weapons they might add to the HoM) in GW2, we as fans may be setting ourselves up for misguided or misinterpreted hopes.

Darkobra · May 19, 2008, 03:20 PM // 15:20

I really hope it's end-game. Tormented is acceptable, too. After all, they're not exactly cheap to come by.

Orange Milk · May 19, 2008, 05:19 PM // 17:19

I honestly don't give a shit about what other weapons we can put in the HoM, since mine is already full of Destroyer Weapons because thats what we were instructed to put there.

Another failure on ANets part to plan ahead. Some people are mad now, they will be happy with cahnge, though there will be a new group of mad, people like myself, who will emerge.

Thank the Lord I play the versitle Ranger Class and have the possibilities to use most of my Destroyer weapons, though I'm sure they will simply collect dust on my heros.

I can think of many othere weapons I'd rather put in there though.

Hyper Cutter · May 19, 2008, 06:03 PM // 18:03

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Originally Posted by MarlinBackna

What's logical about getting instant gold in a new game? It's GW2, not the next campaign. I know you would want to carry your accomplishments, but seriously, do you really want to enter GW2 with everything already. I foresee too many people abusing the early economy and become super-ultra-massively rich after a year or so, which would put the economy of GW2 off to a bad start. Just remember that you would port your gold to any other MMO you would play after GW, so what makes GW2 any different? The HoM is quite enough, especially after they add more weapons.

iirc, they've specifically said that whatever the HoM actually does for you in GW2, it won't give you that sort of advantage...

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Originally Posted by Orange Milk

Another failure on ANets part to plan ahead. Some people are mad now, they will be happy with cahnge, though there will be a new group of mad, people like myself, who will emerge.

Now? People have been pissed about Valor since the day we learned how much it sucked...

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Originally Posted by Arduinna

I don't care if it will benefit me in GW2, just let me display my favorite weapons.

THIS.

Navaros · May 20, 2008, 06:40 AM // 06:40

HOM needs to accept every weapon in GW. None of them are "hard" to get (although, some take more mindless grinding to get than others...but that does not equal "hard") therefore it is absolutely ridiculous to restrict any weapon from being in there based on how "hard" it is to get. It's a players' own HOM weapon stand, there is no reason he shouldn't be able to put anything in there that he darn well pleases.

kobey · May 20, 2008, 09:21 AM // 09:21

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Originally Posted by Navaros

HOM needs to accept every weapon in GW. None of them are "hard" to get (although, some take more mindless grinding to get than others...but that does not equal "hard") therefore it is absolutely ridiculous to restrict any weapon from being in there based on how "hard" it is to get. It's a players' own HOM weapon stand, there is no reason he shouldn't be able to put anything in there that he darn well pleases.

There is something called a storage for that purpose. Its for people to put their crap in when their character's inventory can't hold more crap.

Navaros · May 20, 2008, 01:21 PM // 13:21

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Originally Posted by kobey

There is something called a storage for that purpose. Its for people to put their crap in when their character's inventory can't hold more crap.

What does storage have to do with putting the weapons that the player likes in his HOM, instead of only skins he may not like, but can only put those ones up because it is arbitrarily decided by the devs that they are the only ones that are "HOM worthy"? Lots of people think the destroyer weapons are ugly & crap despite the arbitrary decision imposed by the devs that "Destroyer weapons are not crap and are HOM worthy".

Lots of people will probably also think the other weapons that can be added are ugly & crap too, if they are only going to slightly-broaden the selection that can go into HOM instead of opening it up to every weapon (as it should be). And opening it up to a couple of other types and yet not others of similar caliber is totally unequitable. Ie: the common suggestion of adding Deldrimor and Torment only = totally unequitable.

cataphract · May 20, 2008, 02:02 PM // 14:02

HoD swords in HoM now!

dunky_g · May 20, 2008, 03:00 PM // 15:00

I want to add my customised Starter Hammer tbh

Konig Des Todes · May 20, 2008, 06:55 PM // 18:55

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Originally Posted by natural_Causes

Maybe next they will tell us what we "get" from the HoM in GW2

They do need to tell us more info on GW2, best to be the HoM now so people will rush to get the stuff now. Or stop rushing.

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Originally Posted by StormDragonZ

When I hear more weapons in Hall of Monuments, I can only think of one thing that could possibly come close to what could go in:

The Wintersday Candy Cane Weapons.

That would be hilarious. I would love to see those in the HoM, they are rare weapons in a way anyways :P only can be crafted once a year.

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Originally Posted by SmithyBen

I think they should go full out on this if they plan on changing it.
This means:
Maybe sorrows furnace/tombs greens
Deldrimer weapons

Divine path weapons
Urgoz/Deep weapons

Forgotten weapons
Tormented weapons

Droknars weapons
Destroyer weapons

--BMP weapons and Design a weapon winners

A nice addition, only greens I think that should even exist in the game are the ones on this list *End-game and Elite area greens* Limit amount of BMP and add in Eternal/Chaos, Zodiac, Celestial, and I'll agree 100%.

I say, for HoM, Add those mentioned above, for non greens, add in crafters.
In other words a crafter for:

Eternal/Chaos in UW
Zodiac
Celestial
"Ceremonial"(End-game faction weps) *obvious place*

And some new elite skin sets that would be nice to see would be:
Titan *craftable from Glint's Avatar in Droks after the Titan Quests, the skin changes to look like the environment like the real Titans(aka NOT Destroyer rip-offs)*
Warden*craftable in Urgoz*
Nightmare *craftable in the Deep*
Summit *craftable in SF*
Demonic *craftable in Tombs*
And Maybe
Obsidian *for FoW|also the Obsidian Blade can be put in that*

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Originally Posted by Frank Dudenstein

Adding Deldrimor items (as has been suggested many times in this thread) makes absolutely no sense to me because
a) after the hoopla fades you realize they are essentially boring endgame items same as the endgame items in nightfall and factions .. if you add deldrimor it would only make sense to add the others too
b) they are very easy/inexpensive to get
c) you can only get 1 per character meaning - that's not much of an additioon to the HoM unless Anet adds multiple stands and means for you to buy the rest from others - which really isn't their modus operendi (not to mention who is going to sell them if everyone needs them for HoM)

As for what items they SHOULD add? Well

[snip]

BTW .. I would love to see some sort of 'special' stand for FoW armor. Lumping it together with the rest of the 15k really detracts from the 'achievement' (such as it is) of getting it...

I got to disagree with what I bolded.
1) They are as easy/inexpensive as Destroyer
2) Your thinking of the Greens that are 1 per character. The Golds, which is what people mean, can be gained more then once per character.

FoW doesn't need its own stand. Its an elite armor, yes the most expensive, but still just an elite armor. If FoW armor gets its own stand, then the other elite areas need their own armor and those to go on the stand as well.

Chthon · May 20, 2008, 07:03 PM // 19:03

From a lore perspective, the "legendary-ness" of the weapons in the hall derive from the fact that they once belonged to a legendary hero. So, whatever weapon you, the legendary hero, are actually using belongs in the Hall.

Crom The Pale · May 20, 2008, 11:03 PM // 23:03

I can see only one really logical move here...3 rows of weapons.

Row #1 - Destroyer weapons(standard bonus in GW2 - whatever that may be)
Row #2 - Green weapons(max only)(no bonus in GW2)
Row #3 - Gold weapons(max only)(no bonus in GW2)

We know that mods dont matter on the Destroyer weapons displayed so they should not on the others, niether should requirements.

The real question is should rows #2 and #3 allow more than one of any type of weapon, ie display 3 swords or only 1....

Hyper Cutter · May 21, 2008, 02:03 AM // 02:03

I wouldn't mind seeing multiple levels of unlocks in GW2. Like, if you fill Valor period (with any max weapons) you get X, but if you fill it with Destroyer(/Tormented/Deldrimor?) weapons you get a fancier version of X...

That way, everyone wins...

Fug the Unwashed · May 21, 2008, 05:51 AM // 05:51

Golds/Greens....All of them

cataphract · May 21, 2008, 06:29 AM // 06:29

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Originally Posted by Hyper Cutter

I wouldn't mind seeing multiple levels of unlocks in GW2. Like, if you fill Valor period (with any max weapons) you get X, but if you fill it with Destroyer(/Tormented/Deldrimor?) weapons you get a fancier version of X...

That way, everyone wins...

I don't think that's such a good idea.

Inniss · May 22, 2008, 11:25 PM // 23:25

Whatever ANet chooses, there are always people who aren't going to be happy. For example, my weapon of choice is a modded collector Air Staff, because I like the sparky head skin. I spent ages hunting the mods to max it for my needs, but I doubt it'd ever be addable to the HoM because it's blue.

End-game greens seem the most likely, as most everyone has at least one of those, if not more. I know I have a couple across my heroes. Example, my Hayda uses the Deldrimor Javelin and Tactics Exalted Aegis.
Be nice if we could add the BMP weapons, and I don't mean the reward weapons. Turai's Sword looks awesome when a Norn is using it.

Nude Nira · May 23, 2008, 01:07 AM // 01:07

I don't care about HoM, tbh all you're going to get is some minipet, or a title for filling it....I'd rather waste my gold elsewhere.

Tutis Evito · Jun 25, 2008, 09:20 AM // 09:20

Question...

According to this http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Arena...dates/20080624

HoM is going to be modified to be account based...great..

Question... Does that mean wepons are still going to be customised for the player who dedicates them?

Or b/c its account based they wont?

Carinae · Jun 25, 2008, 10:01 AM // 10:01

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Originally Posted by TideSwayer

I would like to see Anet fill out the Chaos skins and Eternal skins for all weapons types. Put the Chaos crafter somewhere in FoW and the Eternal crafter somewhere in UW.

You didn't hear it from me... but I heard this just might happen. Whispers through the grapevine.

I'm guessing he'll require ectos....

Zesbeer · Jun 25, 2008, 10:16 AM // 10:16

well we know tormented are going to be added anyone know if they hinted at adding any others? i for one would love to see greens added i think that they would just make sence.

and also a nice thing would be if you could put in one weapon "set" of your choosing like a most commonly used items statue. that is just an idea probably wouldn't have a bonus in gw2 you would just be able to view them i guess.