Curse

Tutis Evito · Jun 25, 2008, 02:55 PM // 14:55

I have done the same on occassions....pinged the cookie cutter build then chnaged it.,..eg remove rebirth...im a monk for cure hex if i know its a hex heavy area,take out healing seed for non ursan grps as this is a waste...etc etc

JoeKnowMo · Jun 25, 2008, 03:16 PM // 15:16

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Originally Posted by fenix

Don't try and make your own custom changes to a build that has already been perfected.

It's a build that has been perfected for bad players. Not that I consider Divine Intervention an improvement. But Shield of Absorption, for e.g., on a high-armored target getting hammered would produce a ton of zeros rather quickly. And it has a recharge of 10s instead of the 30s of Divine Intervention. But it has a 1s cast time and is not the "Oh Shit!" button that Divine Intervention is... so the monk actually has to think a little and pre-prot.

But SoA won't make it into the standard Ursan group because Ursans don't know wtf it does and Ursan monks won't be able to use it right because "wtf!! this skill sucks! it doesn't make red bar go up..."

fenix · Jun 25, 2008, 03:26 PM // 15:26

Which is exactly why you don't mess with Ursanway bars. It was made BY idiots, FOR idiots. It's super easy wins, and if you're going to run it, you might as well just run the copypasta builds and do it right.

pumpkin pie · Jun 25, 2008, 04:00 PM // 16:00

at first I cannot understand why players need other players to be using a certain cookie cutter build or any build that they desire. Players are human being, they are not your AI heros. If you like to play with other real people, one should at least give these "other real life player" a chance to use their build is my humble opinion.

What is the game becoming that players have to use trickery to get into a pug group?

Legendary Shiz · Jun 25, 2008, 04:05 PM // 16:05

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Originally Posted by Kikuta

Right. Nevermind the mobs of 8 enemies you'll frequently see in PvE...

Channeling is great for any caster in PvE.

lolbadplayer

Trylo · Jun 25, 2008, 08:35 PM // 20:35

so at first i thought this topic was just silly because ive never had a problem with people saying my HB build sucks use the pvxwiki. so i look up healer's boon on pvxwiki, and the builds actually suck. like 5 out of 8 of the skills in each one i would switch, except for the HA one which was surprisingly decent skill wise for full heal HB, however the attributes were crap. i can definitely see why you would not want to use them, however switching a skill after you pinged your bar is just dirty and foul play. if your bar was actually good i would hope someone on your team would stick up for you, otherwise i would just leave and make my own or join another.

Jebus · Jun 25, 2008, 09:06 PM // 21:06

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Originally Posted by Legendary Shiz

lolbadplayer

loltrollmore

allience · Jun 25, 2008, 11:44 PM // 23:44

i don't rly have problems with pugs telling me my skillbar. i join, communicate with the other monk, adjust bar according to the area and ping. if there are complaints, i explain my choice and if there's still complaints, i'm likely to flash them the phoenix and leave :P

FlamingMetroid · Jun 26, 2008, 12:34 AM // 00:34

lolpugs
we have guilds and heroes for a reason

byteme! · Jun 26, 2008, 01:25 AM // 01:25

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Originally Posted by EPO Bot

~snip~

Divine Intervention has a recharge of 30s. Is that supposed to be good? I cannot for the life of me see a reason to use it. If someone goes from 100%-10% health in the blink of an eye it's "their" fault for getting themselves into that situation. I would not put DI on my bar for the "off chance" I get an idiot on my team. Rather bring Aura of Faith and set them straight instead.

MrSlayer · Jun 26, 2008, 01:42 AM // 01:42

I like to make sure my group ping

Because we had a sin with Mending, Watchful Spirit and Live Vicariously in his bar. I told him he wasn't exactly what we were looking for, and kicked him. (hey no need to be an asshole to someone).

angmar_nite · Jun 26, 2008, 12:12 PM // 12:12

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Originally Posted by Koudelka

It's funny how unobservant ursans are. I usually pop into a group with my M/R Healer's Covenant build, and they don't even think twice about asking me to ping my build. In general, people that ask others to ping are insecure.

As far as their concerend you could have either a competent build (if that's your idea of competent) or you could have a ferocious beastmaster that uses a bow by night and sword by day.

fenix · Jun 26, 2008, 12:58 PM // 12:58

You have to take into account, for the most part Ursan players are the worst of the worst. They simply did some grind for rank 10 Norn, but they are still the kinds of players that you would NEVER want in pugs. They just have it easy now, so don't need to think about skills.