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Age · Jul 03, 2008, 12:27 AM // 00:27

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Originally Posted by BlackSephir

So if it was possible then to go with balanced group and "explore" now nothing will change. Gotcha.

You are bitter because it won't be so easy anymore which is good adapt adjust like 55ers did as we need a 2 man team.

Coverticus · Jul 03, 2008, 12:31 AM // 00:31

My 2 pennethworth..

It was an nerf that was yes, most certainly needed but, as it appears to me, it's a nerf Areanet haven't quite thought through as to it's impact.

On the plus side, no more speed UW or solo UW farms. Yup, I was on the farm bandwagon and got what I could. But now it's back to to normal. But then again, no it isn't. UW has become a touch harder for balanced teams (since the update kills the Terra's off too). Ok so some "outside of the box" thinking is going to be needed here for a truely balanced team (which is good for the thinkers in the game - gives me something new to get my teeth into yay

) but this is now going to increase the popularity (again) of the Ursan/HB teams. Joy. Would have though Areanet might have considered this when thinking about the game update.

On the down side, yes, the Green/Poof Crew farmers are less potent, possibly unusable. Don't know yet, too early to tell.

Personally, its an update that the game has needed sooner than it got. Though the nerf stick may have been wielded a touch harsher than it should of.

Golgotha · Jul 03, 2008, 12:37 AM // 00:37

I'm having a hard time deciding what stock rose more with this update, ectos or Ursan. Oh, the irony.

Atra Culpa · Jul 03, 2008, 12:45 AM // 00:45

I'm sure that with the rise in price of ecto, we will see a proportionate rise in "LFG R10 URSAN" spam in ToA. :P

The SF buff was nice for a while. And while i did make my sin to farm ecto, I'm keeping it because I had fun playing it without SF too

win win for me.

I couldn't give a rats arse about the easy mode and e-peen QQers. Good update imho.

Scarlett Romanov · Jul 03, 2008, 12:46 AM // 00:46

I'm surprised they actually nerfed Shadow Form. Now for them to take care of all the other imbalanced pve skills (SY & UB next plz)

defect · Jul 03, 2008, 12:47 AM // 00:47

*gets out the old 600/smite armor*

ReZDoGG · Jul 03, 2008, 12:48 AM // 00:48

I thought the economy was good, because people actually had money to buy expensive items. So what! if the prices on high-end items dropped alil bit, atleast we were able to sell them in a fairly quick time compared to before big SF change. The fact that people had a way to make good money was something I thought was great. I was able to sell stuff alot easier than before because there were more people that actually had money to spend on goods. Now it is going to be alot harder to sell items, and eventually we will make less money. This change will not make the economy better, or make the game more exciting, but only the opposite... some people just don't get it. People all crying around about ecto prices losing their value, so what? Ecto prices dropped plenty of times before, but always ended up raising back up. If we would of just gave it some time, prices would have went up to normal value... but nope, people had to cry about it. If you didn't know, people would eventually get bored of farming ectos over and over and over, and then move on to something else. Eventually less people will be farming ectos, and the prices of ectos would go up over time. Because it was easier to farm ectos, of course value will go down, it all balances out one way or another.

I mean, I ain't poor, I had 250+ ectos before any SF changes (with more than enough gold, and items ot sell), and their value dropping didn't bother me much... mainly cause I don't sell them, or buy high end weapons. Now all farming has been affected by this unnecessary skill change for SF... all because people complained about Mindblade farming.

For all you damn cry-baby lifeless nerds who complain about every goddamn game out there, GET A F*CKING LIFE! People act like if the value of ectos goes down, their life will go shit. I mean, a game is supposed to be fun... why try to make a game less fun all the damn time? Now the game is just gonna get boring alot quicker with the 1-2 gap until gw2 is released. Now, alot of people are going to fall out of the game sooner than previously expected. Eventually guildwars will be nothin but ghost towns.

DreamWind · Jul 03, 2008, 12:49 AM // 00:49

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Originally Posted by romeus petrus

Believe it or not there was a thread as recent as today saying ecto prices will not go up with the SF nerf clicky.

I laughed a little. There were plenty of threads claiming that nerfing SF would not effect ecto prices. I learned long ago that 90% of the posters in Riverside (particularly anyone agreeing with those threads which were many) have no clue.

Age · Jul 03, 2008, 12:51 AM // 00:51

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Originally Posted by Scarlett Romanov

I'm surprised they actually nerfed Shadow Form. Now for them to take care of all the other imbalanced pve skills (SY & UB next plz)

Yeah just leave LoD alone it iis nice with 6 sec recharge.It would help those Ursan groups.

byteme! · Jul 03, 2008, 12:51 AM // 00:51

So the whiners got what they asked for. I hope "some of you" didn't liquidate all your ectos because well.....you got what you asked for.

I see a lot of economist wannabe's. People who think they know how the GW economy works or should work. YAWN! Some of you thought ectos were gonna hit rock bottom. Lucky for me some of you had to think that way. During this whole SF fiasco I liquidated a ton of stuff. My Armbraces, some of my rarest items, and all my gold in storage were all exchanged for stacks and stacks of ectos. I paid 3-3.5k per ecto. Right now I am sitting pretty on a huge chunk of cash.

I hate the nerf because now farming UW is more of a chore then ever but at the same time I love the friggin nerf because my net worth has gone up along with ecto prices. If they nerf SF my ectos go up in value = I win. If they don't nerf SF I can continue to farm UW = I win. It's good to plan ahead.

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Originally Posted by romeus petrus

Believe it or not there was a thread as recent as today saying ecto prices will not go up with the SF nerf clicky.

Some sucker (i mean person) in that thread probably sold a stack of ecto to me for 3keach....ROFL

I was never really super rich or anything but when Anet buffed SF only to NERF it again, it was an opportunity to farm the economy instead of UW. If the rich were able to take advantage of all of this they'd be super rich for sure. So I end this post with a question. The rich just got richer. The poor just got poorer and for the people who dumped all their ectos, well they got hit with a baseball bat. IS THE ECONOMY GOOD NOW?! ARE YOU FRIGGIN HAPPY?!

Atra Culpa · Jul 03, 2008, 12:54 AM // 00:54

I for one did not find SF farming fun. Sure the numbers on a raptor run actually made me lol the first couple of times.. but that wore off pretty quick and it became the mindless boring chore farming always was.
Nor do I find an unbalanced game as much fun as a balanced one where you actually have to put effort in for your gain..
Like many people here have already said, SF isn't completely dead. Use your brains and look at the skills at your disposal.

People will always find new ways to make money. That's just what they do.

dilan155 · Jul 03, 2008, 12:58 AM // 00:58

now those who horded ectos got even richer, rofl. meh economy

ReZDoGG · Jul 03, 2008, 01:03 AM // 01:03

Why don't we just all "whine" it back. lol. Shadow Form change that is.

Fleeting · Jul 03, 2008, 01:07 AM // 01:07

SF solo is dead or harder. Whatever... the people who adapt will adapt and the people who QQ will QQ, then copy builds from people who adapt.

byteme! · Jul 03, 2008, 01:08 AM // 01:08

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Originally Posted by ReZDoGG

Why don't we just all "whine" it back. lol. Shadow Form change that is.

So ecto prices would fall again and the rich can load up on more stock? The damage is done.

Vazze · Jul 03, 2008, 01:08 AM // 01:08

nice, now ursan, soul reaping, ether renewal, save yourself ...

ReZDoGG · Jul 03, 2008, 01:12 AM // 01:12

What people don't get about such a drastic change in ecto prices... is... that there will now be more people selling than buying, which makes them somewhat worthless and harder to get rid of. So now, people won't bother buying them because the prices jumped up so high, and would rather try to sell them for profit instead, only to find out that they can't seem to sell them. I mean, people can be so stupid on crying about the value of ectos, when their prices would have went up in a month or two when people got bored and farmed other things, or stopped playing all together because of nothing new to do in the game. Let the game go with its own flow, and eventually everything will even out again. It always does.

Clash clash! can't sell ectos to sellers, thanks to you damn whiners... Value of ectos actually went down if you can't sell them... No? don't get it?

hurdlebeast · Jul 03, 2008, 01:14 AM // 01:14

Honestly, i gave up a long time ago trying to be rich. My characters look good, i've beat all the games, and i like to do random stuff.

Now to work on my heroes.....

Lest121 · Jul 03, 2008, 01:16 AM // 01:16

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Originally Posted by ReZDoGG

What people don't get about such a drastic change in ecto prices... is... that there will now be more people selling than buying, which makes them somewhat worthless and harder to get rid of. So now, people won't bother buying them because the prices jumped up so high, and would rather try to sell them to profit, only to find out they can't seem to sell them. I mean, people can be so stupid on crying about the value of ectos, when their prices would have went up in a month or two when people got bored and farmed other things, or stopped playing all together because of nothing new to do in the game.

Clash clash! can't sell ectos to sellers, thanks to you damn whiners.

I don't care about Ectos............the 50% damage reduction was unnecessary.........they cried for a nerf and now there are happy.

Dragonire · Jul 03, 2008, 01:27 AM // 01:27

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Originally Posted by Atra Culpa

People will always find new ways to make money. That's just what they do.

QFT. True farmers who actually enjoy that aspect of the game should have no problems finding new ways to do so. It's all about the challenge.

The SF buff has been in effect for so long that most people who actually needed (...?) the money from farming ectos should have gotten enough already. I do not believe that it has brought wealth "to the masses", because casual players, in general, would either: not know of the farm, not care because they don't have many goals that would require such a massive influx of cash, or not farm it because it really is just grinding. They may have goals to get, say, obsidian armor, but likely not in record time. It has only benefited those who did farm it, as their cash stock rose faster than the prices of items being sold. Everyone else would have had to face inflation, sooner or later. It's not like the value of higher-end items would drop, since they would be scaled according to the price of ectos. >.>

I suppose a bit of the fun has been taken away from using SF though, I'll admit. The 50% damage penalty hurts quite a bit, but meh. We can adapt, as we always do. o.O;

As a side note: wasn't it possible to make more money pre-lootscaling than ecto farming the last few weeks? I guess the purchasing power is vastly different though.