Curse

N1ghtstalker · Jul 11, 2008, 10:47 AM // 10:47

i wonder when we will get a serious and not completely useless update

Lady Raenef · Jul 11, 2008, 10:50 AM // 10:50

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Originally Posted by N1ghtstalker

i wonder when we will get a serious and not completely useless update

When Paragons get a buff.

DarkNecrid · Jul 11, 2008, 11:00 AM // 11:00

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Originally Posted by N1ghtstalker

i wonder when we will get a serious and not completely useless update

This update did some good things. Shadowsteps and Mantra being fixed are those good things.

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When Paragons get a buff.

he said serious.

doudou_steve · Jul 11, 2008, 11:28 AM // 11:28

i'm fine with the update and finally a "good" nerf to sins :P

distilledwill · Jul 11, 2008, 11:33 AM // 11:33

I guess the [[Chilling Victory] change was to hit the scythe ranger as they can't afford to spec into wind prayers.

Tyla · Jul 11, 2008, 11:41 AM // 11:41

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Originally Posted by Dzan

I don't think the shadowstepping nerfs are that bad, a typical lolsin bar still kills just as fast from what I've tested.

Yeah, but that depends on the retardation level of your assassination target.

I like the death of shadowstepping. Good stuff.
I thought Chilling Victory and Mantra of Inscriptions were bugged. (Mantra got fixed, Chilling still hits the conditional regardless of anything)

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Originally Posted by Raenef

When Paragons get a buff.

Can we actually fix Paragons instead? They are still imbalanced as it stands.

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Originally Posted by Ravager

so many other ways they could've fixed shadowstepping

Not really. It's a mechanic that destroys one of the major things in this game when it's been used; positioning. It's hard to fix a broken mechanic like that.

isildorbiafra · Jul 11, 2008, 12:00 PM // 12:00

This confirms my suspicion that a-net is killing GW1 to ensure everyone buys GW2 upon release! First they are giving away all titles bij making HoM account based. Now we'r also getting account based title changes? Next month the amount of KoaBD rank 6 will rize by a factor 8! Good job A-net kill GW1 before G2 comes out........however i hope AoC is not as good as it seems to be.....cause with the release of GW2 so far away, more and more ppl are leaving GW alltogether and a-net might endup empty handed!

Seems like EotN sales have droped also; cause UB is finaly going to be nerfed.

I hope the rewards for a full HoM wont be a mini in GW2 cause at this rate they will be as common as the min pig....and i dont mean the celestial one!

Turbobusa · Jul 11, 2008, 12:03 PM // 12:03

Actually I like the super speed boost idea. Kind of what shadow step is.
Just leave it targeted so we can't use it for running.
That would be a buff the water eles tho, might want to look at them afterwards.

odly · Jul 11, 2008, 12:16 PM // 12:16

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Added PvE only skills to all PvE foes. All foes will now use the PvE only skills most relevant to their professions

/just dreaming.

Windriders with Cry of Pain, *chuckles*

odly · Jul 11, 2008, 12:17 PM // 12:17

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Added PvE only skills to all PvE foes. All foes will now use the PvE only skills most relevant to their professions

/just dreaming.

Windriders with Cry of Pain, *chuckles*

Jetdoc · Jul 11, 2008, 01:53 PM // 13:53

Moving a skill (Chilling Victory) from one attribute line to another for PvP only - now THAT's freaking hilarious. I'm sure that players won't be confused by this at all...

That has to be one of the worst skill changes I've seen in my 3+ years of GW. Absolutely terrible.

Sarevok Thordin · Jul 11, 2008, 01:54 PM // 13:54

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Originally Posted by Jetdoc

Moving a skill from one attribute line to another for PvP only - now THAT's freaking hilarious. I'm sure that players won't be confused by this at all...

That has to be one of the worst skill changes I've seen in my 3+ years of GW. Absolutely terrible.

Actually I like it, it's destroyed one of the nastiest RA/TA builds I've ever seen next to the touch ranger. The escape scythe.

DarkNecrid · Jul 11, 2008, 01:56 PM // 13:56

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Originally Posted by Jetdoc

Moving a skill (Chilling Victory) from one attribute line to another for PvP only - now THAT's freaking hilarious. I'm sure that players won't be confused by this at all...

That has to be one of the worst skill changes I've seen in my 3+ years of GW. Absolutely terrible.

so i heard there was this thing that tells you when your skills get updated to PvP versions?

i mean really, come on.

Jetdoc · Jul 11, 2008, 01:59 PM // 13:59

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Originally Posted by Sarevok Thordin

Actually I like it, it's destroyed one of the nastiest RA/TA builds I've ever seen next to the touch ranger. The escape scythe.

I have no problem with the move. I have a problem that they did not move it for PvE as well....having different PvE effects than PvP is entirely different than having skills in two different attribute lines based on what you play. That's simply silly and shows a lack of 'nads by the developers.

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Originally Posted by DarkNecrid

so i heard there was this thing that tells you when your skills get updated to PvP versions?

i mean really, come on.

Seriously, though - how many people pay attention to those updates to see if their skill is still in the same freaking attribute line? Yes, I'll look to see if the damage/effectiveness has been changed...but do you think the normal player will be able to track how skills have moved from one attribute to another? Talk about confusion...

DarkNecrid · Jul 11, 2008, 02:00 PM // 14:00

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Originally Posted by Jetdoc

I have no problem with the move. I have a problem that they did not move it for PvE as well....having different PvE effects than PvP is entirely different than having skills in two different attribute lines based on what you play. That's simply silly.

It keeps it strong in one and destroys a build in another. R/D's are used in PvE too, and it's just unnecessary to destroy the template there. (read: Anet refuses to nerf anything for PvE)

Pleikki · Jul 11, 2008, 02:09 PM // 14:09

good they nerfed Soj spike

kostolomac · Jul 11, 2008, 02:23 PM // 14:23

The updates are mostly ok. But I'm still confused why is Izzy still not doing anything about WS.
Edit: Just saw the armor glitch fixes , I hope they fix the male mesmer elite enchanter , norn , and elite canthan too.

DarkNecrid · Jul 11, 2008, 02:25 PM // 14:25

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Originally Posted by kostolomac

The updates are mostly ok. But I'm still confused why is Izzy still not doing anything about WS.

The only thing that really needs to be done is have the condition order swapped.

Jetdoc · Jul 11, 2008, 02:27 PM // 14:27

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Originally Posted by DarkNecrid

(read: Anet refuses to nerf anything for PvE)

Exactly, which is why sewing confusion (e.g. imagine a dozen or more skills in different attributes for PvE/PvP in the future. I'm gonna need a roadmap to figure out a build....hahaha) is more important to A-Net than ruffling a few players' feathers. Simply shows a total lack of courage by the developers, IMO.

DarkNecrid · Jul 11, 2008, 02:31 PM // 14:31

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Originally Posted by Jetdoc

Exactly, which is why sewing confusion (e.g. imagine a dozen or more skills in different attributes for PvE/PvP in the future. I'm gonna need a roadmap to figure out a build....hahaha) is more important to A-Net than ruffling a few players' feathers. Simply shows a total lack of courage by the developers, IMO.

It's only confusing if you don't pay attention, there are lots of resources you can use to make PvP builds now anyways.

Also CV will probably be the only skill like this.

And more than anything it shows that Anet is whipped by its playerbase.