Curse

Solas · Jul 14, 2008, 11:38 AM // 11:38

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Originally Posted by Risus

So far I've been seeing people in the week or so after reward points are added selling keys in 100-250 groups. Assuming that they got it from Tournament Predictions, I think 450k is a bit too big a prize for dumb luck. I say reduce the point rewards so that you can't make tons of cash for spending 4 mins on a website just clicking random stuff.

even if somone got around 450k form this (which very rarly happens i assume)
thats maybe an extra 15k a day whiel the more average is more like 100-200, 3-6k a day and thats if they sell the keys alot of people use them and jsut get creme and firewater so there possibly 100k investment is not work around 5k

[Morkai] · Jul 14, 2008, 12:35 PM // 12:35

Wow.

What is it with people whining about Anet actually giving us something nice every once in a while. Jeez, it gets to the point where it's not even funny anymore.

They are fine as they are.

DarkNecrid · Jul 14, 2008, 12:48 PM // 12:48

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Originally Posted by tehlemming

People actually pvp, you know.

No one cares about your shit mode of play okay. PvPers need to go learn to actually play the game and maybe the world of Tyria wouldn't be so crap. You know the merchants in Cavalon actually want me to pay 100k+50e for a Requirement 10 Elemental Sword? The nerve. Instead you guys are out there killing yourselves instead of fixing this horrible crime.

Ridiculous.

MagicWarrior · Jul 14, 2008, 02:55 PM // 14:55

I think it's fine the way it is. In fact, I wish I could get more of the darn keys to feed the addiction (ahem, I mean: fun) of opening that chest.

romeus petrus · Jul 14, 2008, 03:08 PM // 15:08

It is mostly luck and some minor amount of observation, but ya it is an easy way of making money.

Neo Nugget · Jul 14, 2008, 03:29 PM // 15:29

People might have multiple accounts, and registered them.

I say it's fine, it helps me with my zaishen rank

(except this month i did really crappy, because i voted too early -.-)

FoxBat · Jul 14, 2008, 03:36 PM // 15:36

Anet giving you a free 5k a month might be considered "bad". However, they aren't. Keys have little intrinsic value, other players are the ones willing to dish out 5k for them. 5k flowing from the richest players to every joe shmoe that can put up some predictions seems fine to me.

keli · Jul 14, 2008, 03:49 PM // 15:49

ppl are complaining for free money now WHAT COMES NEXT? :S :S :S

HawkofStorms · Jul 14, 2008, 04:00 PM // 16:00

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Originally Posted by T. Drake

It is our own fault that we pay ~5K for a key.

Convince the community that they should be worth 1K or something and we don't need a reduction in reward points.

... lol, let's see if thats gonna happen.

QFT

Blame the community who buys ebayed gold and then buys titles.

Really, the best way to lower z-key price is to get more people to use the Xunlai House, since that would lead to a larger supply of z-keys.

Edit: And yes, people can complain about free money, because after all, it does have economic implications. However, since the z-chest doesn't create a lot of gold (just that of items sold to merchants), just transfers it from people to people, it doesn't cause that much inflation.

Ate of DK · Jul 14, 2008, 04:07 PM // 16:07

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Originally Posted by HawkofStorms

QFT

Blame the community who buys ebayed gold and then buys titles.

Really, the best way to lower z-key price is to get more people to use the Xunlai House, since that would lead to a larger supply of z-keys.

But even larger numbers are required to max the title. And when prices fall, people start buying even more which makes the prices go up again. I guess they will remain around 5K for some time.

Divine Xan · Jul 14, 2008, 04:07 PM // 16:07

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Originally Posted by Risus

I think 450k is a bit too big a prize for dumb luck

lol, some people 'predict' through luck, others think about it and try to PREDICT for their predictions not guess (and often get more points from this), how would this involve less skill then the SF-farm that untill recently anyone could do for easy ectos?

Gli · Jul 14, 2008, 04:21 PM // 16:21

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Originally Posted by Ate of DK

Dumb luck?

If you knew more about PvP then you can easily get more than half of each mAT right. The only thing that bothers me is that Anet messes up the points you actualy get.

/quoted for red engined truth. I've been shortchanged 3 months in a row now.

Snow Bunny · Jul 14, 2008, 04:28 PM // 16:28

It's free money. It's RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing awesome.

Dallcingi · Jul 14, 2008, 05:28 PM // 17:28

Zkeys are good
dont like it just sell them
easy money, easy title since all u gotta do is open a chest.
people who dont pvp can still get the goods and the ones who pvp get even more.
The only thing that you can do to exploit it is with multiple accounts but all the power to them since someone had to pay for it anyways right? anet doesnt care

Jensy · Jul 14, 2008, 05:49 PM // 17:49

My guess is that the OP is crap at predicting and never gets any points. So, clearly, it needs to be nerfed for the rest of us who pay attention

/no

It gets PvE players interested in what's going on in PvP. At least in my alliance, we look forward to the tournaments and watch them on obs. Then we get rewarded for it.

You're seriously complaining about free money? Really?

Pure Disasta · Jul 14, 2008, 08:08 PM // 20:08

So how can i get into this zaishen tournament prediction stuff? Is there anyone who offers like free predictions I can go with if I'm lost myself.

Any help would be appreciated.

RavagerOfDreams · Jul 14, 2008, 08:56 PM // 20:56

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Originally Posted by holymasamune

I like free money. Who doesn't? It's better than wasting time farming ectos with SF, and easier too.

what he said ^

Kanyatta · Jul 14, 2008, 11:23 PM // 23:23

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Originally Posted by T. Drake

It is our own fault that we pay ~5K for a key.

Convince the community that they should be worth 1K or something and we don't need a reduction in reward points.

... lol, let's see if thats gonna happen.

With the volume of high-end skins that come out of that chest, I would say 5k is definitely a reasonable price for both buyer and seller, if not, it is kind of low. Seriously, Voltaics, Emerald Blades, Everlasting X Tonics, etc. There's a big upside to purchasing keys other than an emote.

Kanyatta · Jul 14, 2008, 11:28 PM // 23:28

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Originally Posted by Ate of DK

Dumb luck?

If you knew more about PvP then you can easily get more than half of each mAT right. The only thing that bothers me is that Anet messes up the points you actualy get.

What this guy said. Don't base your predictions off "Oh, highest number of QP's is obviously going to win" or "#1 on the ladder is obviously going to win". Just know who has the best GvG team and you'll do way better on the predictions. I got 5 out of 8 right on the head for GvG, and 2 were 2 places off, and 1 I got 0 points for, and in HB, I didn't get a single one close. I pay attention to GvG, and I don't give a rip about HB, and it shows in my Xunlai House rewards.

About the second part of the quoted post, I got screwed out of my RP's in May. I was supposed to get about 80 from what I figured, and I just never received any, I was pretty bummed. That's the only time that's happened to me so far though, so I'm guessing there are many people who've had it worse off than me.

Dante the Warlord · Jul 15, 2008, 12:25 AM // 00:25

Yea i just recently got into predictions. I suck, but i got 30 points on my first try. Im pretty busy with life, and TBH i really don't want to merchant anymore, so this is a great way for me to make moeny by simply looking arounf the GW community and either sell or try my luck with the chests.

Oh, if anyone wants to give me pointers, that might be good, i tried out vote for the asians/euros second, but then i realized that some american/euro guilds use asian characters... /sigh