Curse

Ec]-[oMaN · Jan 31, 2008, 08:28 PM // 20:28

Truth be told, the hex hasn't really increased quality among the PvP settings it effects. All it has done is make the people you would have lost playing with before, feel more loved because now you have to watch their utterly disgusting build run around/not rez/ or just fail...
It's still all the same, only now you'll lose with whatever max players instead of less.

Hailey Anne · Feb 01, 2008, 01:34 AM // 01:34

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Originally Posted by Fril Estelin

You've turned the example of ONE guy (well, that's what you say anyway) into the fail of a system. If he's effectively been reported (as you say) and he's still here, I guess it's been overlooked at Anet.

(I've been moderator on a huge forum where you could get up to 10 posts per second at worst times and dozens of reports where you need to track down the information and I can tell you it's not an easy job contrarily to what you seem to suggest, people make mistakes and that does not mean that you have to point your finger at the system)

You think Im lying about this guy? lol
for the last time spend a day in Luxon FA and you will see him too. You will see everyone report him and you will see him back in the next match.
With as many reports as this guy has gotten he shouldnt even be allowed back in at all.
But Im done responding to you.
You dont seem to get it.

Cathode_Reborn · Feb 01, 2008, 01:39 AM // 01:39

Jum Rock has probably been leeching in Aspenwood for almost a year now....

Hailey Anne · Feb 01, 2008, 03:17 AM // 03:17

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Originally Posted by Cathode_Reborn

Jum Rock has probably been leeching in Aspenwood for almost a year now....

No No good ole J.R. so it doesnt get deleted.
thats who im refering to though.
Atleast thats just 1 of them I know of a hell of alot more that still leech even with this Dihonarable Hex that so many of you are praising.

wanmoke · Feb 02, 2008, 02:58 AM // 02:58

Even mentioning initials is against the rules, I think. We have no concrete proof that he really is leeching. Yes, I know, you've said, "go to FA on the Luxon side and he'll be there." It's still calling out an individual in a bad light.

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Truth be told, the hex hasn't really increased quality among the PvP settings it effects. All it has done is make the people you would have lost playing with before, feel more loved because now you have to watch their utterly disgusting build run around/not rez/ or just fail...
It's still all the same, only now you'll lose with whatever max players instead of less.

Guess what? THAT'S THE POINT! It's made with the idea that people in things like Random Arenas, Alliance Battles, Fort Aspenwood will be discouraged from leaving. Having a subpar build, not resurrecting, that is their choice which you can't influence.

Maximumraver · Feb 02, 2008, 03:13 AM // 03:13

Meh, i won't bother.

Ec]-[oMaN · Feb 02, 2008, 09:15 PM // 21:15

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Originally Posted by wanmoke

Even mentioning initials is against the rules, I think. We have no concrete proof that he really is leeching. Yes, I know, you've said, "go to FA on the Luxon side and he'll be there." It's still calling out an individual in a bad light.

Guess what? THAT'S THE POINT! It's made with the idea that people in things like Random Arenas, Alliance Battles, Fort Aspenwood will be discouraged from leaving. Having a subpar build, not resurrecting, that is their choice which you can't influence.

The dishonor hex was put in place to help make people feel happy, so others couldn't leave, when the people I mentioned above all deserved to lose. Sry I do not enjoy having to sit and watch retards in various PvP settings. This is why everything besides GvG and HA, is a sess pool of lower quality, no good players bother going into those arenas because Anet is now forcing us to play with dummies. Pretty much Anet has said with their actions "do what you want, bring stupid skills, don't rez, enjoy the show"

Nemo the Capitalist · Feb 02, 2008, 10:57 PM // 22:57

in Ra its better believe it or not
No monk or rit= left

its gay now i know esp when u leave when ur last person left etc...people report u what not.

Still better than 3 leavers in area before...

Still needs quinks worked out

yesitsrob · Feb 02, 2008, 11:31 PM // 23:31

I think: some small changes that would make it less troublesome.

Dishonoured Hex not stopping you from GvGing: I find this to be a problem. I was asked to guest while RA'ing - I was in some boring 2 monk vs 2 monk fight where nothing was really going to die. There was 8 minutes left of the fight. I left, I'd been asked to gvg.. didn't want to keep people waiting.... aaand, I got disonhoured! 5 minutes till the AT match, couldn't play. Fair enough, don't let me RA for a while thats where I was causing "problems" - but making it so one can't gvg even - and it's not like I had a choice... if I didn't leave I wouldn't have made it in time.. and leaving got me the hex. I'm pretty sure the people I was about to gvg with couldn't give a toss if I was disonhoured or not... Um yeah i think that's one of the things that needs working out.

I also think you should be allowed to leave if only one of your team members is alive - way too often is there some dipshit who will run around for the duration of the match and you have no choice but to wait it out (and eventually lose), or get dishonoured

MoldyRiceFrenzy · Feb 03, 2008, 08:14 AM // 08:14

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Originally Posted by Fril Estelin

2 good can balance for 2 bad, but not 1 good for 3 bads.

actually in RA, thats not really true.

I remember being monk(not saying im great or nething), but then having a w/e fire ele, a w/ i think he was missing some skills too, and a wamo- i think he was mostly a smite character. we got to 10 and then beat some teams like rezQ in TA.

on the topic of dishonor though.

I think the thing about ppl leaving b4 every single game is alittle hyped out. I played RA quite alot cause i have nothing to do, and well, i didn't really see it as bad as ppl say(even when i didnt monk).

also-ppl do not /resign. It just does not happen. So ppl shouldnt even be assuming that /resign will save the day because it does not.

All in all, the dishonor well, its incredibly annoying to get dishonor after leaving 1 game(for random reasons like all ur members left, or game was going on with nothing happening for 5 min and would go til 8 ect) then another for same reasons kind of sux too. In addition, getting teams like the 3 monk 1 rit or the 4 monk, ect seem to be a drag to which happen every once in awhile.

it doesnt seem to be incredibly bad during monk playing, but on a war and sin and such, it gets pretty annoying b/c u get the urge to leave the team when its obvious ur going to lose(which happens alot) it also sucks when u get a runner on ur team. saving time is nice.

There are reasons why dishonor has helped some and then reasons why it has made things worse...so dunnoi cant say i like it, but i havnt really felt the severity as i expected, then again, ive just been playing monk to avoid these hex issues neways..

pamelf · Jul 21, 2008, 10:30 PM // 22:30

Dishonourable sucks... I got it today for leaving, yes I did leave, but the team added me under false pretenses. And another game I was being abused for reasons I won't go into, but had something to do with my gender...it wasn't major, not enough to report someone for verbal abuse over, but enough that I don't have to stay in a game and put up with that behaviour...and somehow I'M the dishnourable one? The whole system is flawed.

TwinRaven · Jul 21, 2008, 10:36 PM // 22:36

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Originally Posted by Destro Maniak

I think dishonerable should be removed. I dont think there is any point of waiting in a team that has no chance in RA or AB till end.

How do you know there is no chance unless you stay? I know I've been in teams of three after leavers have gone and still won...leavers are as annoying as leachers, they usually guarantee a loss.

Abedeus · Jul 21, 2008, 10:40 PM // 22:40

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How do you know there is no chance unless you stay?

If there is half team leaching (1 person leeches, then second, third and up to 6-7), you are loosing 10-300 and your only allies are morons with pre-searing bars, you KNOW there is no chance.

Imo remove for AB, stay in RA. I mean, if team is bad, just loose, let them kill you. Then exit.

Bob Grunter · Jul 22, 2008, 08:07 AM // 08:07

i know people who have quit out of many consecutive ra matches and not gotten dishonour

sibelang · Jul 22, 2008, 10:12 AM // 10:12

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Originally Posted by Abedeus

If there is half team leaching (1 person leeches, then second, third and up to 6-7), you are loosing 10-300 and your only allies are morons with pre-searing bars, you KNOW there is no chance.

Imo remove for AB, stay in RA. I mean, if team is bad, just loose, let them kill you. Then exit.

lucky i save the ss for u xD

OT. dishonor is good imo... ive never touch RA more than 15min b4... but now is different bcoz every1 so loyal xD

Vazze · Jul 22, 2008, 02:42 PM // 14:42

DHH is dumb, but it is getting better: I report all the noobs who won't resign, and we manage to give them a few DH points every once in a while.
EDIT: this is in RA (not AB)

Rocky Raccoon · Jul 22, 2008, 02:50 PM // 14:50

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Originally Posted by Vazze

DHH is dumb, but it is getting better: I report all the noobs who won't resign, and we manage to give them a few DH points every once in a while.

Explain to me why you would report someone who won't resign, when by resigning you get 5 dishonorable points.

Abedeus · Jul 22, 2008, 03:02 PM // 15:02

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Originally Posted by Risky Ranger

Explain to me why you would report someone who won't resign, when by resigning you get 5 dishonorable points.

BS, you don't get 5 points for resigning. You get 5 points for leaving the game before it ends, then 5 points again when you leave again and then hex kicks in.

Rocky Raccoon · Jul 22, 2008, 03:06 PM // 15:06

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Originally Posted by Abedeus

BS, you don't get 5 points for resigning. You get 5 points for leaving the game before it ends, then 5 points again when you leave again and then hex kicks in.

Please read last line at the bottom.

http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Dishonorable

imnotyourmother · Jul 22, 2008, 03:34 PM // 15:34

My two cents. If you are the leader in a Guild then you can Boot members out of the Guild.

So if you are the leader of a Team you should be able to Kick members out of the Team.

Makes sense to me especially if you are the one paying 1000 gold to get there in the first place.