Curse

Orange Milk · Jan 28, 2008, 06:25 PM // 18:25

Well put BoonDock, D Hex + Timer = better RA (great movie too, btw)
Now just drop glad points from RA and all will be well

I've not gotten the Hex and unless something wack happns I never will.

To all you who say "But my team LOOKED like pure fail" A) never judge a book by its cover B) If they are SO fail, the match is only going to last a minute anyway, not 5-10. C) If your Soooo serious about getting a good team and your time is too important to waste on what LOOKS like a fail team, GO TO TA. D) Look in a mirror, perhaps YOUR the one thats fail.

Henchman · Jan 28, 2008, 07:03 PM // 19:03

The Dishonorable hex is probably the best upgrade in the entire history of the game, no kidding.
Before it almost every RA match that didn't have a monk had a leaver.
Now you can actually play 4vs4 random as intended.

And the number of districts in RA have pretty much doubled since the hex was introduced.

Bottom line: If you want a perfect team, go to TA. If you're not good enough for TA, then you will never be on a perfect team simply because YOU are on that team. Go back to playing Hello Kitty Adventure Island.

Thanks Anet!!

Chrono Re delle Ere · Jan 28, 2008, 08:57 PM // 20:57

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Originally Posted by Henchman

The Dishonorable hex is probably the best upgrade in the entire history of the game, no kidding.
Before it almost every RA match that didn't have a monk had a leaver.
Now you can actually play 4vs4 random as intended.

And the number of districts in RA have pretty much doubled since the hex was introduced.

Bottom line: If you want a perfect team, go to TA. If you're not good enough for TA, then you will never be on a perfect team simply because YOU are on that team. Go back to playing Hello Kitty Adventure Island.

Thanks Anet!!

Have to quote every single word. Before I NEVER managed to start a match in RA before like 20 times trying to find a team without any kind of leaver. Same goes for leechers; now you click on the START button, join a team and play in the 99% of cases. The fact that you don't have any chance to win in AB, for example, is not a big problem; leave that match, you will get the Hex just after twice you left.

Navaros · Jan 28, 2008, 09:10 PM // 21:10

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Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius

And "a leaver every game" is how it used to be before dishonorable.

Smart leavers have adapted to "Dishonorable Hex" by simply not ever casting any skills and leeroying right into the enemy team. That ends the pointless match much quicker.

This further wastes the whole team's time to an even greater extent than the leaver leaving right when the match begins would have.

So if you are teaming with a smart leaver player who has adapted to the Dishonorable Hex change, actually Dishonorable Hex makes things worse off for you then they were before.

In addition, there are also the aforementioned problems listed by the other posters, like being forced to waste time in a pointless battle.

Makkert · Jan 28, 2008, 09:15 PM // 21:15

One of the dumbest things is that if your teammates can't / won't res you in RA, you can't leave because of dishonor and are forced to watch 2 earth tanks 'combatting' each other and watching a boring non-winner show.

Rhedd · Jan 28, 2008, 09:22 PM // 21:22

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Originally Posted by Navaros

Smart leavers...

...a smart leaver player who...

No such thing.

Just wanted to add, the best RA team I've ever been on was R, R, Me, N. 22 consecutive wins. Don't judge.

RhanoctJocosa · Jan 28, 2008, 09:53 PM // 21:53

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Originally Posted by Orange Milk

Well put BoonDock, D Hex + Timer = better RA (great movie too, btw)
Now just drop glad points from RA and all will be well

That would be terrible. TA is in a shocking state atm.

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Originally Posted by Orange Milk

To all you who say "But my team LOOKED like pure fail" A) never judge a book by its cover B) If they are SO fail, the match is only going to last a minute anyway, not 5-10. C) If your Soooo serious about getting a good team and your time is too important to waste on what LOOKS like a fail team, GO TO TA. D) Look in a mirror, perhaps YOUR the one thats fail.

A) Hmmm, that warrior just put up Live Vicariously, and that E/R has a pet and a longbow, but I'll stay because they could be r6+ glads running incredibly good builds. Uh huh.
B) That's only if you vs a decent enough team, and if the people in your team don't all try res/run around the map for another 3 minutes.
C) Not only is TA in a terrible state, but if you want to get anywhere you need to have 3 other people who aren't bad, so if you don't have anybody online wut2do?
D)NOU

Guys, the solution to this problem is simple: SYNCMOARLOLHOW2RA

EDIT: Not having a monk on your team isn't why everyone leaves. I got a 21 RA run during the weekend with sexy koreans, we had Migraine, D/P, me as Coward! sword and a shattering assault sin.
EDIT2: I own you all.

bhavv · Jan 28, 2008, 10:14 PM // 22:14

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Originally Posted by RhanoctJocosa

EDIT2: I own you all.

But not meh! I own u.

And also, I have no titles anymore so that makes meh better then you with your ranks!

Since ppl without titles = better players in everones opinion.

I R a Rank 0 PRO!!!! Lyk U 2!!!!

Hailey Anne · Jan 28, 2008, 10:17 PM // 22:17

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Originally Posted by Kyrein

would you prefer to have a leaver every game instead?

There still IS a leaver every game. Alot of times more than 1.
My point is that we shouldnt be forced to stay in a game with a well known leecher.

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Originally Posted by MoriaOrc

Use it correctly, report the leach and play out the round so he can't leach again for 10 minutes. FA is very winnable with only one guy leaching, but if people start leaving because of one person that just makes it even harder for those that remain.

Heres the problem. We DO report him. over half the team.
Yet very next match there he is.
Good ole J.R. some may know who im talking about.
You kind of get sick of wasting your time after awhile.
I play FA because its fun but not with these leechers here.
Either remove dishonor or improve it so we dont get these people who ruin the game.

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Originally Posted by MithranArkanere

You have to /report, then /resign.

The leecher won't get to the next match.

To bad this doesnt work.
The whole team has to resign and a leecher isnt going to do this.

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Originally Posted by Fril Estelin

Now that the D-hex is here, no point discussing subjective opinions about it. The OP is subjective, it is basically saying "D-hex does not work because I got D-hexed and not the leechers"! Well, all cases are looked by Anet/NCSoft staff so may be yours just got examined earlier than them.

Well if thats the case then they REALLLY need to fix it.
I was in 2 matches before I left with this person who leeches on a regular bases.
Over half the party reported him yet hes in the next match and the next on the 3rd time I was fed up so I left.
But IM the one that gets dishonored. Big flaw in DH.

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Originally Posted by Shadowspawn X

In a nutshell it breaks down to why no rank = no skill

1) no rank = you don't play much and have no experience = no skill
2) no rank = you play lots and don't win which = no skill

Inversely we can deduce that rank= skill, understand now?

First of all just wrong.
Second this isnt a rank discussion so take your Rank crap elsewhere those always turn into major flaming threads.

Ork Pride · Jan 28, 2008, 10:29 PM // 22:29

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Originally Posted by Kyrein

average IQ is 80

wrong its actually about 100

RhanoctJocosa · Jan 28, 2008, 10:30 PM // 22:30

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Originally Posted by bhavv

But not meh! I own u.

And also, I have no titles anymore so that makes meh better then you with your ranks!

Since ppl without titles = better players in everones opinion.

I R a Rank 0 PRO!!!! Lyk U 2!!!!

It depends, but in most cases people with ranks are better than people with no ranks, simply because they're more experienced in whatever form of PvP it is. I mean, for example, if all the old school GvGers came back to gw you can't say they aren't good just because they'd only have a low, if not any, champ title.

Dutch Masterr · Jan 28, 2008, 10:42 PM // 22:42

Dishonorable hex is great, but sometimes it will backfire on you. I once was in an RA game and i started to have a video card issue which required me to restart my computer mid-game. I came back only to find i couldnt PvP for a half hour or whatever it is, LOL.

Hailey Anne · Jan 28, 2008, 10:42 PM // 22:42

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Originally Posted by RhanoctJocosa

It depends, but in most cases people with ranks are better than people with no ranks, simply because they're more experienced in whatever form of PvP it is. I mean, for example, if all the old school GvGers came back to gw you can't say they aren't good just because they'd only have a low, if not any, champ title.

This is NOT a rank vs no rank discussion please post this stuff in the 1000s of pvp/rank threads.

RhanoctJocosa · Jan 28, 2008, 10:47 PM // 22:47

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Originally Posted by Hailey Anne

This is NOT a rank vs no rank discussion please post this stuff in the 1000s of pvp/rank threads.

Simply replying to a post.

Molock · Jan 28, 2008, 10:48 PM // 22:48

I like it... especially for RA! People don't leave the instant they see that their team doesn't have a monk.

bhavv · Jan 28, 2008, 10:57 PM // 22:57

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Originally Posted by Fril Estelin

It takes no brain to resign. It does take brains to win a game, and even more despite the odds against you.

Yea, it takes big brains and skill to win with no monk, a mending wammo, a firestorm ranger and a flare elly.

How fun, they must be pro if they win right? Cos they won!

bhavv · Jan 28, 2008, 11:04 PM // 23:04

Ok, i was just playing elly in a match and our monk didnt fare very well.

We had a warrior who said:

'Nice healing noob monk'

Then the warrior /reported the monk for leeching and rage quit :O

Dishounour + report are great arent they?

Numa Pompilius · Jan 28, 2008, 11:04 PM // 23:04

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Originally Posted by MsMassacre

so instead of no monk = leave, now no monk = forced to waste 5-10 minutes in what you know is a pointless losing battle because nobody has the brains to resign.

So WTH are you guys doing in RA?

You know, in TA you get to design your own team. It's not random at all. So why are you in RA and hating it?

Quote:

Originally Posted by bhavv

We had a warrior who said:
'Nice healing noob monk'
Then the warrior /reported the monk for leeching and rage quit :O
Dishounour + report are great arent they?

Wow, I'm impressed. I played like 50 RA matches yesterday, didn't see anything like that.
Isn't it fortunate that it isn't automatic that the monk gets the dishonor, and that it's actually more likely that the warrior will for abusing the /report system?

bhavv · Jan 28, 2008, 11:13 PM // 23:13

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Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius

So why are you in RA and hating it?

We didnt hate TA whatsoever before dishonour. And that was a good 2 years of RA with no penalty for leaving.

I can farm dishonour points and hexes on my monk all day for doing nothing but playing a really bad build, people that abuse the system to report noobs are a plenty. If you want to see it, roll a sac monk with lively was naomei and see for yourself how many reports you get for leeching.

I also get easy dishonour points for a Mo/W wammo too, in fact, I'm gonna play that now. XD

My fun time in RA

Numa Pompilius · Jan 28, 2008, 11:20 PM // 23:20

It would seem, then, as if the problem isn't with the system, or with other people. But with you.

Which brings me back to my first conclusion: that the dishonor system is working, and that you're one of the guys who made it necessary to begin with.