Curse

eeks · Jun 17, 2008, 05:53 AM // 05:53

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Originally Posted by Mac Sidewinder

If people would all sell just under the merchant price (and the same as each other) then it would stay stable.

Unfortunately, there's two sides to that. Not many people want to buy for that price, even if they're still making 100g profits per ecto. Hell, I sold some ectos for a reasonable price that'd profit the buyer by about 400-500g per ecto, and someone still tried to shave quite a reasonable amount off my price.

Also, ew. I'm not ever going to buy shards - FoW armour's gross.

Tyla · Jun 17, 2008, 06:28 AM // 06:28

Ectos are just balancing between 4.8k and 5.5k for me.

Shards are going up, which is good.

Lykan · Jun 17, 2008, 07:04 AM // 07:04

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Originally Posted by gerg-nad

Have you looked at Ecto and Obsidian Shard prices lately. They have made significant swings. Ecto went down and Shards went up.

I may have not got the full story as I have not really read anything officially, but I heard it has something to do with the increments of prices, but really don't understand. Did Anet tapper witht he economy again. Any folks with ectos just lost a lot of money. Any folks with Shards likely made some.

These deliberate changes to high end monitary items, ecto's are used as cash, is unfortunate and concerning. It is likely making some folks upset, but I did not see much on this forum.

ARe you serious? You cant think of any reason why?

Hello??? Where have you been the past month.

Abedeus · Jun 17, 2008, 07:11 AM // 07:11

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Originally Posted by Tyla

Ectos are just balancing between 4.8k and 5.5k for me.

Shards are going up, which is good.

Now try to sell them for 4,6k. People will laugh at you. If you sell for 4.4k, you're good at trading.

FrAnt1c² · Jun 17, 2008, 07:13 AM // 07:13

There are still ways to dual smite fow, and kill those idiot shadow monks

Yawgmoth · Jun 17, 2008, 10:44 AM // 10:44

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Originally Posted by The Red Messenger

for the longest time, ecto incriments were 4.6, 4.7, 4.8, 5.5, 6.0, 6.5, etc.

they recently changed it to 4.6, 4.7, 4.8, 5.0, 5.5, 6.0, 6.5, etc.

basically added 5.0 which was previously never a possible ecto price.
this price update helped lower ecto value.

The 5.0 was always there, but it doesn't mean it had to be simply between 4.8 and 5.5. In fact it's below the 4.8 we got used to.
The sequence looks more like 4.8, 5.0, 4.8, 5.5, 6.0,... and it's not the only case when the same value appears more than once in the sequence, it's quite common on many different price ranges.

An example easy to check: Rubies and Sapphires were both at 3.6 sell price when I checked yesterday, but they had a different buy price! It just wasn't the same 3.6 position for both of them.

Frank Dudenstein · Jun 17, 2008, 12:30 PM // 12:30

I can't believe you guys arent't seeing this ... but there's a million people trying to trade ectos for Zkeys. When there are many more people selling/dumping than buying ... price goes down...

makosi · Jun 17, 2008, 12:39 PM // 12:39

I understand that there's a large influx of ectos in to the economy but are people selling ectos to the trader, causing the price to drop? Ectos will always be easy to sell for above the traders' buy price in places like Temple of the Ages.

People are giving themselves a bad deal or are wanting to liquidize quickly.

Ate of DK · Jun 17, 2008, 12:47 PM // 12:47

A few people mentioned this before and also in other threads.

The number of ecto's that drop does not have an immediate effect on the ecto value of the merchant. Only when people BUY or SELL at the merchant it can change the ecto value. Trading ecto's for high end weapons or zaishen keys doesn't.

Example:
Say that I farmed 150 ecto's during the last 2 days. I put them all in my storage! Then the merchants ecto value will NOT change. These ecto's are not on the merchants market since I have no intention of selling them. You could say that he doesn't know about them.

Eample 2:
Someone changes his collection of 300 ecto's for Zaishen Keys with a PvP player. The PvP player is interested in gold instead of ecto's. He doesn't bother trading them with other people and thinks that 4K each is a lot and sells all to the merchant. This WILL change the value of ecto's if many do this.

Conclusion:
As long as people think that selling ecto's for 4K at the merchant is good enough. They will continue to do that and prices WILL go down. And being a PvP player myself, I will always sell the damn things to a merchant because trading with others is a waste of time.

Abedeus · Jun 17, 2008, 01:18 PM // 13:18

Soooo... We should sell them all to trader, ectoes will be 1k each and everyone will have obsi armor!!

Alleji · Jun 17, 2008, 01:35 PM // 13:35

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Originally Posted by Kusandaa

- People realized ectos can be farmed easily.
- They stopped farming FoW; less shards on the market.
- They now can get FoW armor easily. But they need shards.
- Shards went up in price.

That was pretty much my logic.

I dumped my stack of ectos few days ago for cash, z-keys and... close to a stack of shards (however many I could buy before getting tired of spamming - they're not as easy to find on the market as ecto)

Then I wasted those 80 keys on a stupid bronze spear >.>

Targren · Jun 17, 2008, 02:43 PM // 14:43

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Originally Posted by Red Sonya

Welp that's the way the cookie crumbles and people just lost cash just like the do in the stock market in rl everyday.

Strictly speaking, it's more like the commodities market.

Still, it's fun to watch them panic. That's why I sell mine to the trader and make the price come down down down.

I am a bad pussycat...

kobey · Jun 17, 2008, 03:21 PM // 15:21

People shift from pink to black. Black pointy objects seems to be the 'in' thing as compared to pink balls now.

Molock · Jun 17, 2008, 03:50 PM // 15:50

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Originally Posted by Dante the Warlord

Yea shards are more expensive, but this is not going to last, eventually everyone will get obsidian armor on their mains and this will all pan out as obsidian armor becomes far less "L33T". I don't plan on ecto dropping anymore, 1. because anyone who wants to have a perma SF sin bad enough would have made a sin already and started farming for hours (putting this around summer time were kids get off of school was NOT a good idea though) and 2. there would be nothing worth achieving(in the means of reasonable) and yet another load of people would stop playing..

I guess we can all expect the Obsidian armor we farmed for ages to get to be worthless in very little time.. much appreciated anet.

Anyway, there will always be things to do.. I am now starting to progress in more titles.

Neo Nugget · Jun 17, 2008, 04:57 PM // 16:57

Keys are higher than ectos :O I see people wanting to buy keys for 1 ecto+500g. -.-

Valcion · Jun 17, 2008, 05:34 PM // 17:34

Nothing to see here, just ectos becoming the SoJ of Guild Wars. Keep moving everybody.

Yawgmoth · Jun 17, 2008, 06:00 PM // 18:00

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Originally Posted by Valcion

Nothing to see here, just ectos becoming the SoJ of Guild Wars. Keep moving everybody.

I can see that:
* 3876 Globs of Ectoplasm sold to merchants *
* 3932 Globs of Ectoplasm sold to merchants *
* 4105 Globs of Ectoplasm sold to merchants *
* The gods have blessed the world with favor *

Iuris · Jun 17, 2008, 06:27 PM // 18:27

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I guess we can all expect the Obsidian armor we farmed for ages to get to be worthless in very little time.. much appreciated anet.

Why? Will it look any different? Will the AL change?

The one FoW armor I got, I got for the looks... makes me much more relaxed, apparently

Ate of DK · Jun 17, 2008, 09:46 PM // 21:46

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Originally Posted by Molock

I guess we can all expect the Obsidian armor we farmed for ages to get to be worthless in very little time.. much appreciated anet.

Anyway, there will always be things to do.. I am now starting to progress in more titles.

- Oh noes! Sum noobz look just liek me!
- I don't like the idea that you will get close to GWAMM which I got last december!

These are comments which make absolutely no sense. They won't make me a better player. They only tell me that I had fun in what I did in this game. The most important aspect of playing a game.

I never understood the point in saving virtual money in the first place. Money needs to roll.

Dante the Warlord · Jun 17, 2008, 11:10 PM // 23:10

Well personally I used some of my ecto to get a FoW helm, even though i hate FoW armor in general, some of the parts make excellent combos, particualry the FoW helm... i still specualte that it will clear up, i don't think z-keys will be used for trade either since they obviously are 4.5k-5.5k, but they aren't easy to obtain in bulk, so its not easy to trade... armbraces prob wont be used either since they are way too much in value and require ectos to buy anyways... After the ecto crashes, people will still use it and eventually it will rise back up to at least 5k..