Curse

Diddy bow · Aug 02, 2008, 11:10 PM // 23:10

well if you are going to get one pve shield may as well get an all rounder

I mean i dont shield switch in pve...

Nainoa · Aug 02, 2008, 11:23 PM // 23:23

Only bad players think -5/20 is best on shields. Same with 20/20 sundering on low damage range martial weapons. Unfortunately this game is overflowing with bad players.

byteme! · Aug 02, 2008, 11:35 PM // 23:35

Sometimes it's not a matter of people knowing or not knowing that 20/5 is bad. A lot of people in this game don't have much cash to throw around and for them the logical reason is to buy something universally useful. That's where 20/5 mods come into play. Carry 1 shield that will carry you through until you can accumulate the necessary funds to purchase others. However if I had to pick I'd pick -2 while in stance as a universal choice seeing as though I'd be on my warrior who's quite often under a stance of some sort.

Burst Cancel · Aug 02, 2008, 11:44 PM // 23:44

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Originally Posted by slowerpoke

ok, so you have ur upteen shields in ur inv, and lo and behold, the next mob has fire attacks! easy choice.

but wait! it also has lighening and physicals

WUT U GUNNA DO *hulks up*

p.s. du have multiple sets of armor as well for every occasion?

p.p.s. who makes ur luggage, does it have a pocket dimension with infinite space?

You're a RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing idiot.

First, -5/20% only reduces physical damage, so it's not doing anything for you against fire and lightning attacks either.

Second, you can tailor your shield choice based on the most threatening damage type. The guys with -5/20% just eat the damage like morons.

Dr Strangelove · Aug 02, 2008, 11:58 PM // 23:58

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Originally Posted by byteme!

Sometimes it's not a matter of people knowing or not knowing that 20/5 is bad. A lot of people in this game don't have much cash to throw around and for them the logical reason is to buy something universally useful. That's where 20/5 mods come into play. Carry 1 shield that will carry you through until you can accumulate the necessary funds to purchase others. However if I had to pick I'd pick -2 while in stance as a universal choice seeing as though I'd be on my warrior who's quite often under a stance of some sort.

20/5 inscriptions are the most expensive option, so that doesn't work so well.

*lemming* · Aug 03, 2008, 12:08 AM // 00:08

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Originally Posted by holymasamune

Rolling for r6 commander still means they're a shitter.

Pretty sure Candy wouldn't have soloed you if you had a polly shield on.

RotteN · Aug 03, 2008, 12:45 AM // 00:45

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Originally Posted by slowerpoke

ok, so you have ur upteen shields in ur inv, and lo and behold, the next mob has fire attacks! easy choice.

but wait! it also has lighening and physicals

WUT U GUNNA DO *hulks up*

Depending on the amount of foes of the respective elements i'd either equip +10 vs fire or +10 vs lightning. I already have 100 armor vs physical damage anyway. I will then proceed to dispatch the elemental mob i didn't spec against first. That would be the good answer. Reality : i would just don't give a f*ck cause it's PvE and everything is f*cking easy in PvE.

In PvP however i would carry a blind reduction shield most of the time. Swapping to +10 vs piercing when splitting in base / at VoD when there are a lot of archers left. In case i face a build with one type of damage, i'd swap to a shield countering that type of damage.

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Originally Posted by slowerpoke

p.s. du have multiple sets of armor as well for every occasion?

Actually, i do

3 different sets with different stats depending on what i'm running.

Guess it's time you hulk down and learn to play this game properly before you press ye good olde capslock again.

slowerpoke · Aug 03, 2008, 01:02 AM // 01:02

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Originally Posted by Burst Cancel

You're a RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing idiot.

and i love you too

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First, -5/20% ...

I didnt mention -5/20%, are you replyin to the right person? ;3

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Originally Posted by RotteN

Guess it's time you hulk down and learn to play this game properly before you press ye good olde capslock again.

Caps might be true, as for 'play this game properly', i dont recall ever mention what i use, i was just asking what others used ;3

Toxage · Aug 03, 2008, 01:07 AM // 01:07

Any player that sticks with only one shield FAILS, and needs to uninstall ASAP! Stop ruining my game!

Any players with an IQ above 2 have a whole inventory of shields to adapt to the situation.

Kamakazi112 · Aug 03, 2008, 01:07 AM // 01:07

Its PvE ppl just mod it to make it look better or have more value even though its crap....

Burst Cancel · Aug 03, 2008, 01:19 AM // 01:19

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Originally Posted by slowerpoke

I didnt mention -5/20%, are you replyin to the right person? ;3

Read the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing thread. You can play dumb all you want - your posts are either OT or wrong; take your pick.

The point stands that yes, people take shield for every element, and yes, they swap between them, and yes, this is more effective than -5/20%.

Little Shenanigan · Aug 03, 2008, 01:23 AM // 01:23

i was selling a shield in kamadan, and the person was buying it for 60k. it had crap mods on it, and the person threw a fit because it wasn't -5/20, and only paid 58k for it. then they continued to whisper about how "u no wat perfect mods r" because i argued that perfect mods aren't -5/20.

two x knives style · Aug 03, 2008, 02:08 AM // 02:08

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Originally Posted by Sniper22

Ya that's the point. Its much cheaper to buy 1 shield with a mod than 7 different ones, even if the +10 armor is better. Last time I checked, not many people want to buy 7 tormented shields. This belongs in the suggestion forum but anet needs an easier way to swap mods in and out of an item without the use of a perfect salvage kit.

/face palm

anet please make the game easier for us

Kusandaa · Aug 03, 2008, 03:02 AM // 03:02

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Originally Posted by Little Shenanigan

i was selling a shield in kamadan, and the person was buying it for 60k. it had crap mods on it, and the person threw a fit because it wasn't -5/20, and only paid 58k for it. then they continued to whisper about how "u no wat perfect mods r" because i argued that perfect mods aren't -5/20.

It's amazing how dumb some people are (really, telling someone's a noob for not running -5/20... it's sad). I was in Kamadan earlier, had 2x -5/20% mods from shields I bought and hadn't bothered modding yet; they weren't on the market long. 14.5k made in less than 10 minutes. Hey, if they're willing to pay me good cash for things I don't need, I'm all for it.

And wow, for once I actually bought a shield that wasn't modded with -5/20% today.

I tend to pack up by area; if I'm somewhere I'm going to face much more fire damage than cold damage... I won't bother packing it up.

SPURLUXE · Aug 03, 2008, 03:24 AM // 03:24

-5/20 is not best, but most versatile imo.
it does not reqire stance, enchantment, specific condition or damage type.
the only shield I have other than -5/20 is +10AL vs demons for DoA.

Red Sonya · Aug 03, 2008, 03:57 AM // 03:57

I run a stance monk (resolve) with the -2 w/stance or +10 vs slashing, no interuptions and -2 off damage every hit, not to forget the 8ac the shield gives besides. I find there are less stance removers in the game than their are enchant removers thus stance is the best defense on a shield for my type of play. -5/20 is hardly better than a stance shield when playing stance characters. -5 off every 5 attacks vs -10 off every 5 attacks is pretty much a no brainer which one is the better mod.

garethporlest18 · Aug 03, 2008, 06:05 AM // 06:05

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Originally Posted by Toxage

Any player that sticks with only one shield FAILS, and needs to uninstall ASAP! Stop ruining my game!

Any players with an IQ above 2 have a whole inventory of shields to adapt to the situation.

I use only one shield for each attribute. My strength shield has uh.. 10vs slashing and tactics 10vs fire. Both pretty useless to me in PvE which is the only place I use my warrior, who is also my main. I should get -2 in stance really.

But yeah doesn't matter what the mod on the shield is, I shouldn't need it to survive and if it doesn't kill monsters in one hit, it won't be any easier for me. It's either hard or easy, no in between, no easier. That's how I see it at least, plus I log on and just stand in town now, so it doesn't really matter anyways.

Avarre · Aug 03, 2008, 06:10 AM // 06:10

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Originally Posted by Nainoa

Only bad players think -5/20 is best on shields. Same with 20/20 sundering on low damage range martial weapons. Unfortunately this game is overflowing with bad players.

This.

There are better mods, but they require weaponswapping and actual attention to the game.

There is no reason to discuss further.