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Polgara Val · Aug 04, 2008, 10:04 PM // 22:04

As the title suggests,

I find PvP to be somewhat more Elitist personally then other forms of GW such as "must be Ursan Rank xx" etc.....

Just a little friendly discussion here ladies and gents, lets not get to heated..

Pol

jiggles · Aug 04, 2008, 10:08 PM // 22:08

This is a joke right?It's obvious to 99%of the population that pvp has the most elitest, becase quite frankly PvP is the best thing about gw. PvE doesnt matter because its easy

Thizzle · Aug 04, 2008, 10:11 PM // 22:11

It depends where you are. Heroes' Ascent is where almost all the elitist lie within the game. The other forms of PvP are pretty good. In PvE it's elite areas because if you don't have rank x+ then you're not going.

Sarevok Thordin · Aug 04, 2008, 10:12 PM // 22:12

HA is the most elitist without a doubt.

Ursan rankers are gonna get a big kick in the chops with the update so I wouldn't care about them, they can't "play" anyway.

Gin Cometh · Aug 04, 2008, 10:13 PM // 22:13

Thats why 75% of players play PvE?
May not be exact # but i bet its close ,maybe even more play PvE only.
With the resent nerfs to farming etc i cant stop thinking ANET are trying to focas those PvE #s to play PvP

That was @ Jiggles where he /she said PvP is that best thing in GW

Esan · Aug 04, 2008, 10:13 PM // 22:13

The most elitism lies in my friends list. You need to be a GWAMM and have at least champion r6 and zrank 5 to be my friend.

Killed u man · Aug 04, 2008, 10:15 PM // 22:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Polgara Val

As the title suggests,

I find PvP to be somewhat more Elitist personally then other forms of GW such as "must be Ursan Rank xx" etc.....

Just a little friendly discussion here ladies and gents, lets not get to heated..

Pol

"must be ursan rank" isn't elitst. A higher ursan WILL be better, as he will do more damage; and thus you have a larger chance of completing the area faster.

PvP is all about elitism. HA rank means nothing (but experience), and I'm guilty of commiting this form of elitism. (Always form R10+, but I NEVER take people without a guild and/or I know are bad)

GvG is the highest form of elitism you can get. Whereas a casual player CAN get into a R10+ HA-group (Because they drasticly need somebody), a top GvG guild will NEVER, EVER pug. (I'm talking about actual pugs, not QQ-forum people who still have some clue what GvG is)

It's understandable from one point of view:

PvE = non serious + repetitive (IF you fail, you can always retry, and failing in PvE is hard)
TA = lower form of PvP, yet is mostly Build Wars, dominated with gimmicks, thus the only skill needed is being able to button-bash. (Very few discrimination, even tough some R5+ glads believe it takes skill to run a Corrupt bar, or ANY bar in that matter in a format that only has 4v4 one-dimensional fights)
HA = higher form of PvP, also dominated by gimmicks BUT where knowledge + experience will get you somewhat further than unranked people can get. This doesn't mean rank = better player, and people often confuse this with rank = skill, thus alot of Elitism finds place here.
GvG = read top. Highest form of PvP, and thus you won't find more elitism anywere else than here...

Karate Jesus · Aug 04, 2008, 10:18 PM // 22:18

In my pants.

Do you mean the people who think they're the most elite? Or the people who actually are the most elite?

Gun Pierson · Aug 04, 2008, 10:23 PM // 22:23

Outside the game, more specifically here on the forums. All kind of elitists gather here to 'debate' their view. Though most of the time it gets ugly.

One has to be very cautious and aware what you post, as dozens are ready to take any opportunity to make you feel like a fool.

This is a sh1t place to be, yet I find myself attracted to read and post here every day. Ow the irony.

Polgara Val · Aug 04, 2008, 10:24 PM // 22:24

Killed you man: "must be ursan rank" isn't elitst. A higher ursan WILL be better, as he will do more damage; and thus you have a larger chance of completing the area faster."

I agree with most of what you have said, I even agree about the Ursan theory however I have seen people ask for Ursan rank 10 and one rank 9 was not accepted (keep in mind they needed 1 more player 7/8 for example) dispite the fact the difference between rank 9 and 10 are well minimal.

Pol

To Karate Jesus: I mean elitism in GW regarding players in specific parts of the game, for example HA or The Deep etc

N1ghtstalker · Aug 04, 2008, 10:25 PM // 22:25

HA
only RX++ allowed
no room for PvE'rs like me there

Necrotic · Aug 04, 2008, 10:27 PM // 22:27

*whistles nonchalantly as he glances through the thread*

Zinger314 · Aug 04, 2008, 10:27 PM // 22:27

I've been away for 2 months, and we're still whining about elitism?

Polgara Val · Aug 04, 2008, 10:29 PM // 22:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zinger314

I've been away for 2 months, and we're still whining about elitism?

As I said this is just idle curiosity on my part not whining, nothing more.

Pol

makosi · Aug 04, 2008, 10:30 PM // 22:30

Which does most elitism lie?

Definitely GWGuru.

Nobody can do right for doing wrong. PvPers bash PvEers and vice versa. Imbagon abusers bash Ursan users. The mods are trained by Soviet Russian textbooks.

Dr Strangelove · Aug 04, 2008, 10:34 PM // 22:34

Waaaaaaa, I'm too incompetent to form my own groups, and nobody wants to babysit me! Waaaaaaah! When you got picked last in dodgeball, did you complain about elitism there too?

moriz · Aug 04, 2008, 10:37 PM // 22:37

elitism is an attitude that is often found in those who do not deserve to show it.

Gun Pierson · Aug 04, 2008, 10:38 PM // 22:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr Strangelove

Waaaaaaa, I'm too incompetent to form my own groups, and nobody wants to babysit me! Waaaaaaah! When you got picked last in dodgeball, did you complain about elitism there too?

Are you gonna take care about that fire and those flames yourself or are we gonna have to call the fire brigade?

Perfect example to illustrate my above post though.

Excuse me if I missed the 1337 humor there.

Burst Cancel · Aug 04, 2008, 10:39 PM // 22:39

Ideally, elitism would be inherent in the game. Unfortunately, GW is closer to socialism than meritocracy.

Frank Dudenstein · Aug 04, 2008, 10:40 PM // 22:40

There is no "elitism" in areas where you can still win with morons.

In areas where morons cause you to lose .. there will be a way to weed them out.

Draw your own conclusions...