Curse

NoXiFy · Nov 21, 2007, 06:21 PM // 18:21

Pretty self-explanatory

I gotta say, the hardest that I've fought is Mallyx. They really thought out Mallyx when they were creating Citadel. Your stuck in that extremely small area with this H U G E monkey, and he's extremely smart and can spike anyone with one hit. Plus, he tele's yourr healers and such out of reach!

You can't even run for him because if your moving you take 10dmg a second! Theres specific BUILDS made just to kill him because they made him so hard, the spirits NEED to come down or you have no hope. And even with that, soon as someone dies you gotta get them up in 3seconds before he spikes another peep down.

Pre-searing is harder than the End-game factions shiro... no joke. SV+Wild Blow=7second clear.

Zinger314 · Nov 21, 2007, 06:22 PM // 18:22

All of them (except Mallyx, perhaps) are pathetic if you have a cookie cutter group.

But why did you put the end-game bosses? They aren't elite.

Drage · Nov 21, 2007, 06:23 PM // 18:23

If you do Mallyx Ursan Way he isnt that hard, he's done in a few seconds, accually none of them are hard, the boss that has HB he is hard.

Antheus · Nov 21, 2007, 06:24 PM // 18:24

Urgoz.

Most annoying to kill with relation to time needed to get to it.

As for Mallyx, meet Ursan.

NoXiFy · Nov 21, 2007, 06:28 PM // 18:28

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Originally Posted by Zinger314

All of them (except Mallyx, perhaps) are pathetic if you have a cookie cutter group.

But why did you put the end-game bosses? They aren't elite.

Cause end-game wouldn't fit, and there not all technically end-game.

Just a reminder, this is ONLY for elite area bosses and the end-game peeps. Don't say "d00d ayye thunk ta7 dug h4rd357 15 ummmmmmm Dabina Deathbringer11!!1!"

Sha Noran · Nov 21, 2007, 06:28 PM // 18:28

Urgoz is actually incredibly difficult, however he is regarded as a pushover because of poor game design that allows you to kill him with EoE and zero effort. If a change was made so that EoE no longer worked to kill Urgoz, he would instantly become a very daunting boss indeed.

Zinger314 · Nov 21, 2007, 06:30 PM // 18:30

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Originally Posted by NoXiFy

Cause end-game wouldn't fit, and there not all technically end-game.

Just a reminder, this is ONLY for elite area bosses and the end-game peeps. Don't say "d00d ayye thunk ta7 dug h4rd357 15 ummmmmmm Dabina Deathbringer11!!1!"

Lich, Shiro, Abbadon, and Great D are most definately end-game bosses. I don't know how you can misinterpret that.

Shanaeri Rynale · Nov 21, 2007, 06:32 PM // 18:32

Probably none of them, it's all down to using the right 'trick' to kill them be it recall warriors with Kannaxi, EoE with Urgoz or Ursan with Mallyx. Mallyx took longer to suss because for months people used the door trick and it was bugged for several weeks.

I remember killing Urgoz way before EoE was the way to do it, also back when the serpents healed him(very very early on) and one had to shutdown a serpent while the rest of the killed the other one, fun times..

NoXiFy · Nov 21, 2007, 06:34 PM // 18:34

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Originally Posted by Zinger314

Lich, Shiro, Abbadon, and Great D are most definately end-game bosses. I don't know how you can misinterpret that.

Stay pm topic pl0x. If I could rename it I would name it Hardest Elite-Area / End-Game boss

...but I can't, unless a mod wants to do it. kthx.

reverse_oreo · Nov 21, 2007, 06:41 PM // 18:41

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Originally Posted by Antheus

As for Mallyx, meet Ursan.

heh, go beat mallyx without a c-space anything dies skill.

Urgoz is by far the hardest of them all. Even though he is really not hard if you do it right.

Sister Rosette · Nov 21, 2007, 06:47 PM // 18:47

Lich: This isn't even comparable to the harder bosses. The only way he even has a leg up is the fact that you have to kill him 3 times.

Shiro: Meet body-blocking and Celestial Skill spam. Dead Shiro.

Abbadon: Doable with H&H. Again, not even worth mentioning.

Great Destroyer: Are you kidding? People can run him in HM for like 2k. Again, he's weak.

Mallyx: Again, Ursan and love it.

Urgoz: No thank you.

TaCktiX · Nov 21, 2007, 08:24 PM // 20:24

Urgoz is fun purely for the EoE trick. It's a pain in the total butt to get to him, but once you do having the Speedway Derby around him is rather enjoyable.

Mallyx, I've never gotten to. I suppose I should one of these days start working on DoA (and no, I will NEVER NEVER EVER use Ursanway, k thx I like intelligent builds).

Sha Noran · Nov 21, 2007, 08:56 PM // 20:56

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Originally Posted by TaCktiX

(and no, I will NEVER NEVER EVER use Ursanway, k thx I like intelligent builds).

Since not running an incredible build that assures victory and wealth is intelligent.

chowmein69 · Nov 21, 2007, 08:59 PM // 20:59

i think urgoz was the hardest because we need to keep runing around

Arkantos · Nov 21, 2007, 09:00 PM // 21:00

All of them are easy, I wouldn't be able to choose a hardest one.

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i think urgoz was the hardest because we need to keep runing around

So you think running around taking barely any damage is harder then actually fighting a boss? :\

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Since not running an incredible build that assures victory and wealth is intelligent.

Some people like playing builds that require you to know how to play the game, unlike ursan. Besides, ursan isn't all that great.

Tamuril elansar · Nov 21, 2007, 09:42 PM // 21:42

last boss of shards of orr was pretty hard...

for all the elite area's etc i'd go for malix

6am3 Fana71c · Nov 21, 2007, 10:26 PM // 22:26

Urgoz is easy. And it doesn't take much to get to him anyway, even in HM you can kill him in like hour and a half.
Kanaxai. Dunno, prolly the same, never played Deep much.
Shiro, Lich, Abbadon, Destroyer - lolwut?
Mallyx. Never, ever tryed him. Prolly easy nowdays.
My vote goes for this bad boy

DéesseBrighid · Nov 21, 2007, 11:26 PM // 23:26

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Originally Posted by Arkantos

Some people like playing builds that require you to know how to play the game, unlike ursan. Besides, ursan isn't all that great.

So The trick with the door before was better? At least with Ursan you're actually doing something to kill him. How was the door trick intelligent? All you did was stand in a straight line, one person dies, and like 2 people SoS'd the heck out of him. If you ask me, Ursan IS intelligent compared to that...

Arkantos · Nov 21, 2007, 11:45 PM // 23:45

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Originally Posted by DéesseBrighid

So The trick with the door before was better? At least with Ursan you're actually doing something to kill him. How was the door trick intelligent? All you did was stand in a straight line, one person dies, and like 2 people SoS'd the heck out of him. If you ask me, Ursan IS intelligent compared to that...

I'm sorry, but who said anything about the door trick?

Watch the video. My guild running a balanced build without the door trick defeating mallyx. If you ask me, that IS more intelligent then ursan. Then again, intelligent and ursan are 2 words that don't belong together.

Div · Nov 21, 2007, 11:55 PM // 23:55

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Originally Posted by Arkantos

I'm sorry, but who said anything about the door trick?

Watch the video. My guild running a balanced build without the door trick defeating mallyx. If you ask me, that IS more intelligent then ursan. Then again, intelligent and ursan are 2 words that don't belong together.

Unfortunately, SMS is one of the only truly good PvE guilds out there that knows what they're doing. Most self-proclaimed "high end PvE guilds" are nothing but idiots who mash buttons with ursan or title farmers that can only copy and run easy gimmicks that are specific to a special region.

Which is why you have a bunch of r4-5 KoaBDs and/or ursans running around thinking they're good, but they're not.

And it was quite a please to play with some of the SMS guys in DoA the other day. Was much more fun running a balanced type build than the standard noob pug ursan-monk.