Curse

Zahr Dalsk · Aug 07, 2008, 05:18 PM // 17:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by R.Shayne

I would like to see seven heroes

So would 75% of players. Myself included amongst them. Does ArenaNet care? No... they'd rather do trivial things like tonics than fix the bug that limits our heroes at 3. (Because I cannot fathom why it could be anything other than a bug, especially with so immature and intolerable PUG population as that if Guild Wars.)

Parson Brown · Aug 07, 2008, 05:19 PM // 17:19

Hard mode will be harder.

Can't wait to see what that means. Best case: more varied skillbars on enemies.

Worst case: Some BS environmental effect in every zone (Realm of Torment-like)

Most likely case: +3 levels to all mobs...

sixofone · Aug 07, 2008, 05:21 PM // 17:21

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Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk

So would 75% of players. Myself included amongst them. Does ArenaNet care? No... they'd rather do trivial things like tonics than fix the bug that limits our heroes at 3. (Because I cannot fathom why it could be anything other than a bug, especially with so immature and intolerable PUG population as that if Guild Wars.)

Not a bug. It was limited by design, and (if you listen to all the posts) many people consider heroes part of what has "killed" GW.

Myself: I H&H everything. My few tries at PUGging were horrible, and so was my 1 experience with a "guild." There are good players out there! Just - meeting them seems to be something karmic I guess.

Puebert · Aug 07, 2008, 05:23 PM // 17:23

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Originally Posted by Parson Brown

Hard mode will be harder.

Can't wait to see what that means. Best case: more varied skillbars on enemies.

Worst case: Some BS environmental effect in every zone (Realm of Torment-like)

Most likely case: +3 levels to all mobs...

Most badass case: All enemies have the skill "BAMPH!" added to their skillbars.

Molock · Aug 07, 2008, 05:23 PM // 17:23

Don't expect too much from this update guys... its probably just a skill update with the HoM changes.

Sniper22 · Aug 07, 2008, 05:24 PM // 17:24

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Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk

So would 75% of players. Myself included amongst them. Does ArenaNet care? No... they'd rather do trivial things like tonics than fix the bug that limits our heroes at 3. (Because I cannot fathom why it could be anything other than a bug, especially with so immature and intolerable PUG population as that if Guild Wars.)

Show me the poll that says that, ask every player to see what they want and then tell me 75%. Down with heroes and down with henchmen. I'd rather epic fail with "PuGs" all day long because it makes beating mallyx or uw or whatever so much sweeter than just getting some crappy req 13 gold in the end.

Now hopefully this ursan nerf wont be a complete let down... they better have nerfed it hardcore and make it almost useless like Angorodon's Gaze

sixofone · Aug 07, 2008, 05:27 PM // 17:27

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Originally Posted by Trub

IMG

LOL!!

True enough!

Azora · Aug 07, 2008, 05:27 PM // 17:27

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Originally Posted by super strokey

Im pretty sure we all would for things like twisting jaws lol

Ursan gets nerfed a new overpowered skill will be born!!!

Jawsway ftw!!!!

Free Sigils · Aug 07, 2008, 05:28 PM // 17:28

I LoL'ed IRL

Zahr Dalsk · Aug 07, 2008, 05:28 PM // 17:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sniper22

Show me the poll that says that, ask every player to see what they want and then tell me 75%. Down with heroes and down with henchmen. I'd rather epic fail with "PuGs" all day long because it makes beating mallyx or uw or whatever so much sweeter than just getting some crappy req 13 gold in the end.

Now hopefully this ursan nerf wont be a complete let down... they better have nerfed it hardcore and make it almost useless like Angorodon's Gaze

You got me, it was only 73.68% in favor of removal of that cap. I rounded it to 75%.
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10307401

You do realize that just about every H/H player would simply stop playing and never buy a Gw game again if heroes were removed, right? And that H/H makes up a very large percentage of ArenaNet's customer base, right?

mazza558 · Aug 07, 2008, 05:29 PM // 17:29

The CERN Hadron Collider's going online (IIRC) in just under 6 hours. We might only get a few hours of QQ

/sarcasm

komma · Aug 07, 2008, 05:31 PM // 17:31

woot anti-matter!

Sniper22 · Aug 07, 2008, 05:33 PM // 17:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk

You got me, it was only 73.68% in favor of removal of that cap. I rounded it to 75%.
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10307401

You do realize that just about every H/H player would simply stop playing and never buy a Gw game again if heroes were removed, right? And that H/H makes up a very large percentage of ArenaNet's customer base, right?

Yes this represents the guru population, but what about all those other casual players who don't come on guru? All those players that you say make your group fail when you PuG? If heroes were removed, honestly everyone wouldn't leave lol. How do you think we did it without nightfall? Think how many real groups would be formed if we didn't even have heroes? If you want a single player game, then go play Oblivion or something.

Dark-NighT · Aug 07, 2008, 05:35 PM // 17:35

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Originally Posted by Gun Pierson

D-Day ha, couple hours away from the update if all goes well.

Go go 7 heroes!

(one can only hope)

Oh yeah cheers to that small hope, but im with you, one can never have to many heroes.

Theres no imba on 7 heroes, they will just replace the old and busted henchies.

But anyways, Gimme update now, i know i shouldnt get my hopes up but honestly after a month of no updates id welcome anything.

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Originally Posted by Trub

lulwut?

ZOMG Trub, thats awesome

sixofone · Aug 07, 2008, 05:37 PM // 17:37

Great pic, again, Trub!

Anduin · Aug 07, 2008, 05:38 PM // 17:38

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Originally Posted by Sniper22

Yes this represents the guru population, but what about all those other casual players who don't come on guru? All those players that you say make your group fail when you PuG? If heroes were removed, honestly everyone wouldn't leave lol. How do you think we did it without nightfall? Think how many real groups would be formed if we didn't even have heroes? If you want a single player game, then go play Oblivion or something.

How did I do it pre-Nightfall?

Simple: with henchmen.

thral · Aug 07, 2008, 05:40 PM // 17:40

wake me up when they update it. *goes back to sleep*

So more or less how long will it be?

Zahr Dalsk · Aug 07, 2008, 05:43 PM // 17:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sniper22

Yes this represents the guru population, but what about all those other casual players who don't come on guru? All those players that you say make your group fail when you PuG? If heroes were removed, honestly everyone wouldn't leave lol. How do you think we did it without nightfall? Think how many real groups would be formed if we didn't even have heroes? If you want a single player game, then go play Oblivion or something.

/yawn

It's called a poll.

If you look around at the ingame population, the figure still floats around 75%. Usually higher because the H/H players are out having fun while PUGs are in the outposts that I search, stuck looking for more pigmail wammos.

If heroes were removed we would leave. We managed before Nightfall because there were henchmen and because we'd never seen heroes. Now that we have heroes - if the AI was removed, those of us without highly active and skilled guild teams would simply not play at all. Pickup Groups are far too stressful. I personally have no time to stand around a pack of wammos telling immature jokes and drawing phallic objects on the compass.

And if you tell me H/H isn't an intended part of gameplay and that I should go play Oblivion, read the back of the Prophecies and Nightfall boxes. Then come tell me about H/H not being intended as a valid form of gameplay.

sixofone · Aug 07, 2008, 05:43 PM // 17:43

See, I started GW with Nightfall so - I got spoiled, and used to having heroes.

When I started Prophecies, and the low-level sucky henchies (especially the Monk henchies - I mean, come on! a Monk with no condition removal?), I quickly grew frustrated and ran myself to LA so I could get to Kamadan and get my heroes! Then, I went back and did the missions, and it was so much easier.

Hence, the great discussion: did Heroes kill GW? For the purists, I guess it did. For those who enjoy H&H (for a variety of reasons, not the least of which is time & availability), Heroes are a godsend! PLus - I mean - just look at Jora and Livia!! Who cares if a Warrior is a wasted Hero slot. Look at her!!

Lest121 · Aug 07, 2008, 05:45 PM // 17:45

I hope they never put 7 Heroes it's bad enough people don't pug anymore other than Ursan which gets Nerf today, you people really want to turn this game in a My heroes are better than you, main reason why so many people suck because there's no one to give them advice like it was in the old days, if you want 7 Heroes and don't want to play with others I suggest playing Final Fantasy, you will be right at home you don't have to worry about any one.