Curse

CyberMesh0 · Jun 10, 2008, 04:26 AM // 04:26

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Originally Posted by Lykan

The only cure for this is common sense.

Unfortunately common sense ain't so common anymore. We need measures like this to cater to the lack of common sense.

Th Fooster · Jun 10, 2008, 04:33 AM // 04:33

well the issue to me is one of this:

what kind of loser imature smal minded person would even bother taking the time to actuly pull this scam? i mean really how hard is it to go farm your own
item? what ever it is, look it up and wiki tells you whaere it drops, what the monsters in the area... and thier skill bars even! so go farm it!

as for weather or not pple are retarded, no they are not.

not every one has been playing guild wars for 3 years. some just got the game last week. that makes them a noob. not a retard.

its the guy that falls for it twice that lacks common sense.

if you get scamed suck it up and learn .. dont QQ ti anyone about it. it will only get you laughed at and give the scammers the satisfaction.

as for the scammer, what ever floats your bot to make yourself feel better in this illusionary world, just remember it has no bearing on your real life inwitch you probably FAIL at.It does however reveal who you truly are when no one can see you behind your computer screen.and that is.. a thief!

now even though guild wars is just a game and you may think that pple are different in real life,
if they would be dis honest in something so trivial as a game what would they do given the opportunity in real life where the stakes are higher? if you steal in a game you have it in your nature to steal for real. and you area thief in your heart.

the only thing that stops a thief from stealing is the fear of getting caught and exposed. so in real life , you are the kind of person that would steal
if you didnt think you would get caught. that makes you.. a thief IN YOUR NATURE regardles weather or not you actualy physicaly steal, you remain the same at heart, a thief.

and only a thief will get upset at what i posted.

scythefromunder · Jun 10, 2008, 04:45 AM // 04:45

What do you expect from a MMO that doesnt req a monthly?
Exactly.

WNL · Jun 10, 2008, 05:17 AM // 05:17

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Originally Posted by scythefromunder

What do you expect from a MMO that doesnt req a monthly?
Exactly.

Talk like as if there are no scam tricks in other MMOs, even those that require monthly fees.

scythefromunder · Jun 10, 2008, 05:21 AM // 05:21

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Originally Posted by WNL

Talk like as if there are no scam tricks in other MMOs, even those that require monthly fees.

Non-monthly MMO's have some people that just wont think for a $100.
Ones with monthly payment requires ppl with more brains causing less scams. Opinion, Thats my 2 cents.

Edge Martinez · Jun 10, 2008, 05:24 AM // 05:24

Regina, a simple dialogue box that pops up and says, "Dropping this item may result in you losing it.", would be enough. Much effort does not have to go into this. I'm fairly certain this scam doesn't apply to 99.99% of the population.

WNL · Jun 10, 2008, 05:29 AM // 05:29

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Originally Posted by scythefromunder

Non-monthly MMO's have some people that just wont think for a $100.
Ones with monthly payment requires ppl with more brains causing less scams. Opinion, Thats my 2 cents.

It's evident that MMOs with monthly fee or not will still have the same kind of people like any other games, check the fan forums in other MMOs, you still get scam lamenting threads, scaming is human nature, also part of reality.

BodhiNightwind · Jun 10, 2008, 10:27 AM // 10:27

Until there's an Auction Hall or a Mail system or a shared guild bank, you can't get rid of the drop item feature.

As it is, it's a pain in the butt to share items among guild mates. It's easiest right now to go out into explorable areas and drop crap you dont want for guildies/friends rather than open 50 odd trade windows.

I'm all for fixing this problem, but doing away with what's primitive but really the only way to share crap with friends, is not the answer.

BodhiNightwind · Jun 10, 2008, 10:28 AM // 10:28

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Originally Posted by Edge Martinez

Regina, a simple dialogue box that pops up and says, "Dropping this item may result in you losing it.", would be enough. Much effort does not have to go into this. I'm fairly certain this scam doesn't apply to 99.99% of the population.

Yeah...."dropping this item makes it "up for grabs" and any player may pick it up"

would probably solve the problem.

Thecrocodile · Jun 10, 2008, 10:47 AM // 10:47

Ya I have that skill I love it...only lasts for awhile

kobey · Jun 10, 2008, 10:48 AM // 10:48

Suggestion:

Add scam prevention lessons into the tutorial

If noobs are clueless, the tutorial should help them a bit.
If its a veteran, and he still fall for such trick, then no amount of help given to him is helpful. Just let him be.

silara_jorinset · Jun 10, 2008, 12:05 PM // 12:05

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Originally Posted by Tatile

Surely they need to playing with parental supervision, if I remember the EULA correctly? Which would mean that the parent (usually with world experiences) would tell them that it's most likely a scam.

Do you really think all parents are always going to be sitting and supervising everything their child does in a game? (or have even read the EULA for that matter). Often parents don't take note of any age markings at all as "it's just a game", hence all the Grand Theft Auto outcries. There's been large discussions in the UK recently about remarking of age certificates for games and educating parents about them as they are quite naive on a games possible content.

Tatile · Jun 10, 2008, 12:09 PM // 12:09

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Originally Posted by silara_jorinset

Do you really think all parents are always going to be sitting and supervising everything their child does in a game? (or have even read the EULA for that matter). Often parents don't take note of any age markings at all as "it's just a game", hence all the Grand Theft Auto outcries. There's been large discussions in the UK recently about remarking of age certificates for games and educating parents about them as they are quite naive on a games possible content.

No I do not think that parents acutally give two hoots what their child is doing, so long as it isn't illegal, which saddens me.

Nightmares Hammer · Jun 10, 2008, 12:21 PM // 12:21

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Originally Posted by Tatile

No I do not think that parents acutally give two hoots what their child is doing, so long as it isn't illegal, which saddens me.

It's just a game...

On-Topic: What do they think will happen when they drop their item...?

Lykan · Jun 10, 2008, 12:27 PM // 12:27

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Originally Posted by Edge Martinez

Regina, a simple dialogue box that pops up and says, "Dropping this item may result in you losing it.", would be enough. Much effort does not have to go into this. I'm fairly certain this scam doesn't apply to 99.99% of the population.

Its not needed and its stupid. people should realise that when dropping stuff guess what it will get taken. You wouldnt give someone your money in real life would you?
Stupid people cannot be protected.

'Hi im the ecto inspector i need to inspect your ecto's'

The Meth · Jun 10, 2008, 12:27 PM // 12:27

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Originally Posted by scythefromunder

What do you expect from a MMO that doesnt req a monthly?
Exactly.

So games that require a monthy fee to play have more intelligent gamers then those that don't?

...Have you even HEARD of the xbox?

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Originally Posted by Lykan

'Hi im the ecto inspector i need to inspect your ecto's'

Someone should try this. Seriously.

Tatile · Jun 10, 2008, 12:37 PM // 12:37

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Originally Posted by Nightmares Hammer

It's just a game...

I'm talking about 'generally', not just gaming, but web surfing, watching TV, what they do outside and the like. Hell, if the kids learn the value of books imagine what could happen o_O

Well, that last point isn't meant to be negative, but I guess it could be if you don't like certain types of ideas.

Tatile · Jun 10, 2008, 12:46 PM // 12:46

On Topic: Perhaps the pop-ups would be similar to Nanny-statism, but there's only so much you can do when people aren't thinking for themselves, or not questioning motives. I highly doubt they'd let a stranger 'borrow' their car for a quick nip to the shops.

Antheus · Jun 10, 2008, 12:49 PM // 12:49

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He who knows not, and knows not that he knows not, is a fool.
Shun him.

He who knows not, and knows that he knows not is simple.
Teach him.

He who knows, and knows not that he knows, is asleep.
Waken him.

He who knows, and knows that he knows is wise.
Follow him.

It just comes to who you meet. Some people will never learn. Some will never be scammed, and there's a precious middle which can go either way.

Yichi · Jun 10, 2008, 01:04 PM // 13:04

We just need a little check box when you first create a character that says "I'm New" or for an account thats over 6 months old that says "I'm an idiot". You check this box and you are immune to doing anything without a warning box comming up that asks if thi is what you really want to do.

Problem solved.