Curse

Taurucis · Aug 22, 2008, 12:43 AM // 00:43

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Originally Posted by Obey The Cat

like: no resurrection, no automatical use of divine boon or comparable skills?

They heard about the smiter's boon nerf, and now they're afraid to use divine boon because they're afraid it'll get nerfed too.

A little something I've noticed, why is it that every time Anet fixes one bit about hero AI, another bit of it breaks? >.<

Kook~NBK~ · Aug 22, 2008, 01:16 AM // 01:16

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Originally Posted by Obey The Cat

anyone else noticed bad hero behavior after this update?

like: no resurrection, no automatical use of divine boon or comparable skills?

Yes. It seems like H/H can't handle support functions nearly as well as before. It makes H/Hing a bit of an ordeal. I posted a few observations over the thread about buggy A/I, since this one's filled with comments about skill changes. (Melee types seem to be working better, though)

Ruby Lightheart · Aug 22, 2008, 01:22 AM // 01:22

and the purpose of nerfing Disrupting Lunge was.....I mean come on..that thing barely worked as it was

Chilly Ress · Aug 22, 2008, 01:27 AM // 01:27

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Originally Posted by Ruby Lightheart

Ok Rampage as one just got an adjustment...making it USABLE . It used to cost 25 energy making it out of reach for a ranger after one death. Its now at 15.

It's still at 25. Uhhhhhhh, dlunge was to help nerf the thump smite build since the thumpers ran 3 interrupts and was a bit over the top.

Dr Strangelove · Aug 22, 2008, 01:34 AM // 01:34

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Originally Posted by Ruby Lightheart

Ok Rampage as one just got an adjustment...making it USABLE . It used to cost 25 energy making it out of reach for a ranger after one death.

4 billion rangers in PvP disagree. Remember that whole expertise thing?

Red Sonya · Aug 22, 2008, 01:40 AM // 01:40

Baw haw haw haw smiters boon got wack=a=moled hahahahah Bye bye 5 monks in GvG and other arenas I been watchin Lotta hero monks at that. It looked like the meta game had just turned into a monk bash hahaha oh well it's over now...now nerf rangers some more please glad to see they got hit a lil bit, but, would rather see them get hit a lot more.

Alleji · Aug 22, 2008, 01:43 AM // 01:43

So instead of saying "Ether Renewal'd" we can now say "Smiter's Boon'd"?

Magikarp · Aug 22, 2008, 03:00 AM // 03:00

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Originally Posted by Snow Bunny

In other news, I'm snow, I'm from N. Ireland, and I approve of the above statement.

If it comes down to a long, drawn out affair where Izzy will procrastinate the nerf and finally truly balance the skill, or a quick and rapid BOOYAH, I'd prefer getting rid of the skill in a hurry.

Izzy won't take the time to properly balance the skill, a skill that was poorly conceived anyway, so he may as well thoroughly annihilate it.

limiting the meta to having even more restrictions thanks to a tiny usable skill pool is creating the degenerative metas in the first place.

if you haven't looked around.. everyone plays the same 3-4 builds in its own respective arena, and just like it has been since NF, the game is STALE.

GourangaPizza · Aug 22, 2008, 03:03 AM // 03:03

Love the Icy Shackles nerf. It is so sickening to see water ele's everywhere spamming it whenever they have a chance, same thing as Blinding Surge pre-nerf ages ago. It's time to see some skillful play from them.

Now nerf Escape please.

Arutima · Aug 22, 2008, 03:03 AM // 03:03

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Originally Posted by Alleji

So instead of saying "Ether Renewal'd" we can now say "Smiter's Boon'd"?

i still prefer the "verata sacrifice'd"

sterbenx2 · Aug 22, 2008, 03:07 AM // 03:07

STOP CHANGING HEROES AI!

H/H Were even LESS intelligent after the last update to their AI! NOW after this morning "fix" they're outright stupid.

They've forgotton how to use rez! Three times today I have watched my life drain to zero while the Monk AI just stands there and looks around.

Just please.. we know you think you're making them better.. it's ok, just leave them alone now.. change them back to the way they were last week and forget it. please..

Arkantos · Aug 22, 2008, 03:15 AM // 03:15

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Originally Posted by Alleji

So instead of saying "Ether Renewal'd" we can now say "Smiter's Boon'd"?

I was thinking of this earlier. I do believe smiters boon got hit a lot harder than ether renewal did, so yes.

HawkofStorms · Aug 22, 2008, 03:27 AM // 03:27

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Originally Posted by sterbenx2

STOP CHANGING HEROES AI!

H/H Were even LESS intelligent after the last update to their AI! NOW after this morning "fix" they're outright stupid.

They've forgotton how to use rez! Three times today I have watched my life drain to zero while the Monk AI just stands there and looks around.

Just please.. we know you think you're making them better.. it's ok, just leave them alone now.. change them back to the way they were last week and forget it. please..

Agreed. Guildmates are having similar expieriences. These "improvements" often make them significantly dumber.

Kumu Honua · Aug 22, 2008, 03:35 AM // 03:35

Yep, they ruined hero AI.

My minion bomber stops casting ANYTHING after combat is over.

He will not maintain infuse condition anymore, he will not attempt to keep Jagged Bones on low health minions, he will not cast death nova on any low health minions, and most importantly. He will instantly stop summoning minions if not in direct combat.

It doesn't matter if he has zero current minions out of 10 available, full energy, and standing on top of 5 unexploited corpses.

If I attack an enemy nearby he will jump into action though.

This extends to ALL heroes. While not in combat they simply refuse to cast anything.

My ritualist is not dropping life everywhere she stops, she is not maintaining Protective was Kaheni. The list goes on.

pumpkin pie · Aug 22, 2008, 03:38 AM // 03:38

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

"Ranger
• Disrupting Lunge: recharge time increased to 20 seconds."

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

GRRRRRRRRR

Lady Lozza · Aug 22, 2008, 04:04 AM // 04:04

I'm not sure if this has been mentioned yet, but the mAT is next week (I think). It takes weeks, even months at times to balance skills. In order to get it out of the mAT this really was the only feasible solution.

Despite the Dev notes, I think it would be reasonable to assume that they will look at it (Smiter's Boon) at some stage in the future, whether in terms of "balancing" or changing the skill description. But for the immediate future (mAT) this was the best possible solution - instead of trying something like Glimmering Mark, which they are stilll fiddling with.

badfish34668 · Aug 22, 2008, 04:55 AM // 04:55

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Originally Posted by Kumu Honua

Yep, they ruined hero AI.

My minion bomber stops casting ANYTHING after combat is over.

He will not maintain infuse condition anymore, he will not attempt to keep Jagged Bones on low health minions, he will not cast death nova on any low health minions, and most importantly. He will instantly stop summoning minions if not in direct combat.

It doesn't matter if he has zero current minions out of 10 available, full energy, and standing on top of 5 unexploited corpses.

If I attack an enemy nearby he will jump into action though.

This extends to ALL heroes. While not in combat they simply refuse to cast anything.

My ritualist is not dropping life everywhere she stops, she is not maintaining Protective was Kaheni. The list goes on.

i agree with all of the above.

in addition, rangers wont rez pets unless in battle.

anet, stop "fixing" things please, you do more harm than good.

icedwhitemocha · Aug 22, 2008, 05:15 AM // 05:15

People who are complaining about the skill being overnerfed and izzy not doing his job are completely missing the goddamn point

DarkGanni · Aug 22, 2008, 06:15 AM // 06:15

Monk
• Smiter’s Boon: recharge time increased to 90 seconds, Energy cost increased to 25, duration reduced to 5 seconds.

This isn't skill fixing^

My suggestion:

Change the skill function completely.

The way it is now it became from popular to forgotten.

- Ganni

fenix · Aug 22, 2008, 06:56 AM // 06:56

So many people are missing the fact that the Smiter's Boon change is PvP only, so why are you all crying about it?

Seriously.