Curse

Lest121 · Aug 29, 2008, 11:59 AM // 11:59

Never had a problem with runners.

To the OP You are dumb for waiting, if a runner tells me to wait and 5 mins later and hes not back I am GONE

Sir Owns Alot EP · Aug 29, 2008, 11:59 AM // 11:59

I think the real question is why would you need to be run through the last mission of Nightfall? Its one of the easiest in the game!

ScaryDrifter · Aug 29, 2008, 12:01 PM // 12:01

I am in customer service/sales IRL, and I have come across many people like the OP in my day. He will go to great lengths and think of any way he can to justify skipping out on a payment.

I wonder - if a runner goes beyond his expectations, does he tip? Experience says the response is no, the runner did what he said he would and isn't owed anything more.

This is the kind of guy I would group with. Once.

glacialphoenix · Aug 29, 2008, 12:20 PM // 12:20

What I don't get is why you stayed for the entire hour. You could have found another runner, in which case you wouldn't have had to pay for what you considered a 'bad run' since, y'know, you'd have cancelled it. But you did stay for the entire hour, which implies that you didn't mind, because chances are anyone who minds would already have left (and the runner has to be prepared for that, of course).

Then you refused to pay him after he came back and finished the run - which means that he did render his services after all, and you are the one who is refusing to pay for services rendered.

I mean, if you left before the run was complete and he continued to pester you, I can see a case for you... but you're just making yourself look bad with this post.

Ate of DK · Aug 29, 2008, 12:43 PM // 12:43

Don't use runners.

If you don't pay it's obvious that you get reported and your own fault.

I never use runners.

Abedeus · Aug 29, 2008, 12:59 PM // 12:59

Well, now you can just go with R/Mo Unyielding Aura hero and go anywhere you want, even some heroes.

Shursh · Aug 29, 2008, 01:14 PM // 13:14

i wouldn't report you only because it wouldn't make a difference. i would, however, think that you were a lazy cheap person for not paying a runner who did his job.
it's like being stiffed at a restaurant - when i used to wait tables, i would refuse service to people i knew don't tip/pay their bill. unfortunately, there are just too many people in-game to remember who the leechers are.

Numa Pompilius · Aug 29, 2008, 01:17 PM // 13:17

Pay for services rendered or be a scammer. What's hard about that concept?
I don't use runners, but to me it sounds like you're just looking for excuses not to pay. "Hey, you've got ugly pants - no money for you!"

If you don't like your runner, gtfo but DON'T wait until the run is over. Scammer.

SOF · Aug 29, 2008, 01:22 PM // 13:22

If a runner does what they have said they will do, even if it takes an age. Then pay. Common courtesy... Runner hasn't said how well they will do it, as long as what they have said they can do, is done. Then what's the problem?

Elder III · Aug 29, 2008, 01:26 PM // 13:26

if you agree to pay something and they complete it on the first try then you have no excuse to pay not pay.
If at some point you have a severe dislike for them or the style of running they are using, then you are responsible to shut up and ride it out or leave. Once again, if they succeed the first time you literally owe them to pay, as the original deal said.

If I am in a group and they take 2-3 times to accomplish it because of disconnects or other idiots in the group, then I will still pay them, but I'm just a nice guy who understands what it is like on both sides of that 8-ball.

AncientLord · Aug 29, 2008, 01:27 PM // 13:27

What a ego, sadisctic people are here ..... Oh you are all perfect i see... If runner makes a mistake, he make it. Try to run instead of him, will you be beter ? I doubt, i even asume youl make more mistakes.

Try this:

Go play l2, try such ego things there. I garantie you 99% That people will delevel you to lvl 1.

Such people who like to be top ego and try to avoid paying, shoud be perma banned.

It's true, sometimes runner are way to dumb, but this you can see when enter. Not in the half way done.

"Nobody is perfect"

januscht · Aug 29, 2008, 02:00 PM // 14:00

all of your excuses to scamm the runner are lame and make me sick, you have proved how dishonest you are, since when is "cool" (i think some of you feel like that reading your commentaries) to steal from people only because you dont like them, i bet you are not much different irl.

thieves, and feel proud of it? lol?

Zebideedee · Aug 29, 2008, 02:08 PM // 14:08

Maybe there should be % off run prices for each failure, like DP

I remember when I just started I heard everyone talking about being run to Drok's for max armour and I just assumed that the only way to get there was by running, so I paid a "PRO Running to Droks 1.5k"

He failed 5 times!

Cale Roughstar · Aug 29, 2008, 02:24 PM // 14:24

I always pay my runners the price agreed upon. If some kid comes to mow your lawn and does a bad job, you still pay him for it. They are providing a service for you to be lazy as hell, so you might as well pay them. No point in being a lazy and cheap bastard at the same time is there?

Even if they are running for tips, I always make sure to pay them some token amount (i.e. 500g). They can die a lot, cuss when they die and need a res, but they are still doing something for me that I dont want to do myself. Therefore I owe them some money.

Ctb · Aug 29, 2008, 02:43 PM // 14:43

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So you want people banned because they have an ego?

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It all comes down to morals.

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thieves, and feel proud of it? lol?

In related news, competitive online video games still attract, primarily, males in the age range of 18-25 because they're the ones with the biggest cross-section of spare time and income.

As an individual who was once an 18-25 year old male who was friends with many other 18-25 year old males, I feel I can categorically say that 18-25 year old males are, mostly, childish idiots. The only thing that prevented most of us from being arrested or killed during this developmental period was the presence of law enforcement and the threat of effective social ostracization, neither of which exists on the intertubes, hence things like this thread, the OP, Theus, etc.

Dumb, selfish, and immature people abound in online gaming (well... "online" in general, really). It was ever thus, it ever will be. Get over it and get used to efficiently managing your ignore lists.

Lycan Nibbler · Aug 29, 2008, 03:09 PM // 15:09

What made me kind of laugh was that you were so bad at the game that you had to wait an hour for a runner to finish the game rather than you being able to do it yourself.
I have no doubts you ran around afterwards shouting "I've beaten the game" too.....
/facepalm

Chaos_Earth · Aug 29, 2008, 03:15 PM // 15:15

Along the lines of people comparing runs to service at a restaurant:
If the service and food are bad (at most places) and you raise your concerns about it, you can get a free meal. From the restaurant's stand, you could become a repeat customer and give good or bad reviews to your friends. The quality of your experience is their main concern. From the consumer's stand, one should be able to expect a certain level of professionalism and quality if one is paying for a meal.

Likewise, runner who are still not comfortable in their runs should only ask for tips. I think that if you're paying for somebody for a run (and they accept your money rather than doing it out of the goodness of their heart), then they should have their sh!t together enough to do it w/o a major mishap. But that's just me.

I support the message of the topic poster but... reporting does work. I've done it. I've seen people banned. Normally, it helps if you get an entire party to do it but you never know.

Commander Ryker · Aug 30, 2008, 05:14 PM // 17:14

Everything that can be said has been said, at least twice or more.

closed