Curse

EmptySkull · Aug 08, 2008, 05:00 AM // 05:00

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Originally Posted by UnChosen

Next up! Ursan sniper group LF 5 ursan snipers, 2 HB, and 1 Imbagon. Mesmers, sins, rits, dervs, and rangers need not apply because they are are useless during the down time.

Mesmers can come or anyone with /me

[arcane echo]+[echo]+[Ebon Vanguard Sniper Support]

UnChosen · Aug 08, 2008, 05:03 AM // 05:03

Lol it was sarcasm, but chances are I am not that far off. I am already seeing people not wanting classes out of the holy five in DoA

ThunderStruck · Aug 08, 2008, 05:03 AM // 05:03

I can't wait to try out Ebon Sniper Support.

As for the few of you that claimed Ursan is still viable and "just takes skill now." Umm.... yeah, that was ANet's goal. Their goal wasn't to make the skill completely useless. I mean, I don't like using Ursan, but I have nothing against those that do. ANet needed to cater to the players that aren't as hardcore-anti Ursan as guru... aka a large percentage of their playerbase.

/end rant.

Lycan Nibbler · Aug 08, 2008, 05:09 AM // 05:09

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Originally Posted by Azza

lol but i picture it more like this

to dumb it down for A-Net because i know there slow(they never take a hint on nerfs) if u keep nerfing the game ur not gonna have much of a customer line for GW2, i can name hundreds of people i talk to online that arent gonna bother with GW2 and each of them would know hundreds more

well simply said once i max out all my titles im quitting GW and buying WoW(they dont seem to nerf that)

Seems like someone who only sees nerfs and not buffs (glass half empty always?)

I also know a lot of people who QQ but then buy the next chapter so your point is?
I truly believe that very few people know what they will do until GW2 is a month before being on the shelves and we all have a better idea of what the game is about.

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Originally Posted by Azza

PvP and PvE always results in button mashing wether the build requitres skill or not.

That applies to every game, unless you have the telepathy interface on your computer.....

Age · Aug 08, 2008, 05:25 AM // 05:25

It is not as big as I thought it was going to be and Ursan didn't get hurt that much.I thought there would be some extra content it is not that bad.

EinherjarMx · Aug 08, 2008, 05:42 AM // 05:42

wtf?! no [intensity] buff?

eeks · Aug 08, 2008, 05:44 AM // 05:44

Ouch at Order of Undeath's.. insanely bittersweet "buff"? Weirdly, they go on about how it benefits PvP in the developer comment.. thing, but didn't utilise their big PvE/PvP split.

The other buffs look fun, though.

I like how they tried hard to nerf (and failed) the UW ecto run last update, but made it easier this update. They've sure got their thinking caps on~

Chthon · Aug 08, 2008, 05:59 AM // 05:59

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Originally Posted by eeks

Ouch at Order of Undeath's.. insanely bittersweet "buff"? Weirdly, they go on about how it benefits PvP in the developer comment.. thing, but didn't utilise their big PvE/PvP split.

I agree. They completely dropped the ball on that one. Completely.

Aside from a few overbuffs, the rest of the changes are OK, if not exactly inspired. But losing OoU ticks me off so much I'm going to have to call it a bad update overall.

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Originally Posted by slowerpoke

how did the update effect the perma sf uw farm? i know they removed the cursed riders (!?) and reduced the dmg penalty. does this make it easier than before?

The old farm works again, except it takes 3 times as long because you're lucky to be able to kill 2 groups at once, and you've still got the damage penalty, and and the mindblades have more HP, and the mindblades kept hexbreaker.

Lady Raenef · Aug 08, 2008, 06:01 AM // 06:01

Kind of upset that Unyielding Aura is no longer a good monk gimmick skill for PvE. Though, why it was left the same for PvP, I'm not sure why. The enchantment thing seems a bit weird, but no one would take a awesome hard res, right?

Has anyone had a problem with heroes having the tendency of running the opposite direction of you after you unflag them?

eeks · Aug 08, 2008, 06:09 AM // 06:09

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Originally Posted by Chthon

The old farm works again, except it takes 3 times as long because you're lucky to be able to kill 2 groups at once, and you've still got the damage penalty, and and the mindblades have more HP, and the mindblades kept hexbreaker.

Ah well, I found that if you sidestep a bit whilst they're in a line and wait, they bunch up as they would normally. Sure it took ages to get a hang of that, but I got 5e from the first four Dream Rider spawns.

I also died due to insomnia-induced stupidty (really the only way you can die in that run - stupidity), but that's quite efficient if you "master" the method, granted there were still nine Mind Blades left.

I don't think a slight slowdown's that bad, if one's still hoarding their ectos. Spam burning speed five times, and you've killed the MB's in three turns - energy's easily maintainable with Glowing Gaze. I think they're buggered with Chaos Planes regardless of what they do, if they wish to nerf it yet still play the fairness card.

They could easily just turn all the Banished into Cursed Dream Riders, but they'd have an angry mob of fire'n'brimstone hurling Assassins on their arses, which they seem to try to avoid yet fail every skill balance.

Huff. I threatened to use Unyielding Aura on a friend just before the skill "balance"... Damnit!

Fairly placid with UB's change, as I only ever used it in Blood Washes Blood. It was fun while it lasted, even if I was stupidly aggroing crap on my survivor.

Incandecree · Aug 08, 2008, 06:11 AM // 06:11

of the unthinking Ursan carrier not noticing they were resurrected by Unyielding Aura and then dying immediately when they hit Ursan and it removes UA. *sigh*

zwei2stein · Aug 08, 2008, 06:13 AM // 06:13

Interesting: Anet "buffed" PvE skills without actually buffing them. And reduced point of grind somewhat. Perfect Illusion.

Plus they basically added 41 elite skills to game.

And ursan nerf.

Me happy.

Timotheos · Aug 08, 2008, 06:18 AM // 06:18

Omg Willa The Unpleasant got nerfed

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zwei2stein · Aug 08, 2008, 06:21 AM // 06:21

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Originally Posted by Chthon

I agree. They completely dropped the ball on that one. Completely.

Aside from a few overbuffs, the rest of the changes are OK, if not exactly inspired. But losing OoU ticks me off so much I'm going to have to call it a bad update overall.

Its not like anyone used OoU seriously (did you?). Skill was unwieldy and required making bad compromises to use efectivelly (i.e. usage of vamp horrors, you couldn't afford to use BoTM without monk attention or self heal).

This introduces new interesting way to play necromancers: as pet class. We have enough MM stuff already.

Queenie · Aug 08, 2008, 06:22 AM // 06:22

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Elementalist

* Heroes are less likely to use Lightning Bolt on stationary foes.
* Heroes use Shock Arrow more efficiently.
* Heroes use Glowstone more efficiently.
* Heroes use Glowing Gaze more efficiently.
* Heroes are more likely to use Glowing Ice on targets suffering from a water hex.
* Heroes no longer use Blinding Flash on casters or Blinded targets.
* Heroes are less likely to use Blinding Surge if only a single target will be affected.
* Heroes use Mind Blast more effectively.
* Heroes will use of Flare on targets regardless of their remaining Health.
* Heroes use Invoke Lightning more efficiently.
* Heroes use Chain Lightning more efficiently.

Mesmer

* Heroes are less likely to use Lightning Bolt on stationary foes.
* Heroes use Shock Arrow more efficiently.
* Heroes use Glowstone more efficiently.
* Heroes use Glowing Gaze more efficiently.
* Heroes are more likely to use Glowing Ice on targets suffering from a water hex.
* Heroes no longer use Blinding Flash on casters or Blinded targets.
* Heroes are less likely to use Blinding Surge if only a single target will be affected.
* Heroes use Mind Blast more effectively.
* Heroes will use of Flare on targets regardless of their remaining Health.
* Heroes use Invoke Lightning more efficiently.
* Heroes use Chain Lightning more efficiently.

Special.

12charz

garethporlest18 · Aug 08, 2008, 06:22 AM // 06:22

I like the Way of the Assassin buff. Keke.

eeks · Aug 08, 2008, 06:28 AM // 06:28

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Originally Posted by zwei2stein

Its not like anyone used OoU seriously (did you?). Skill was unwieldy and required making bad compromises to use efectivelly (i.e. usage of vamp horrors, you couldn't afford to use BoTM without monk attention or self heal).

This introduces new interesting way to play necromancers: as pet class. We have enough MM stuff already.

We do, but it was still fun secretly using it in pugs, and watching the party cruise through a mission without them knowing you were dishing out quite a bit of the DPS with sub-par minions.

I think Anet assumed it was an underused skill due to the intense popularity of Flesh Golem. That was their goal this time around, wasn't it? Buffing underused elites?

Besides, I always found my health pretty easy to maintain.

Oh well, it's easily adaptable. Sorry to say it, but I'm a fairly casual player (nowadays), and the changes aren't angering me. It is a shame for others who used it a lot, though.

Also, it's pretty amusing how all the mesmer hero buffs correlate to their usage of elementalist skills. You'd think they'd catch on to that little problem.

I think we should all give Izzy a patronising pat for his peculiar perks.

Targuil · Aug 08, 2008, 06:30 AM // 06:30

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Originally Posted by Timotheos

Omg Willa The Unpleasant got nerfed

!

Maybe he/she/it is FINALLY pleasant.

sindex · Aug 08, 2008, 06:31 AM // 06:31

Speaking of Heroes, has anyone noticed how aggressive the AI has become? Every Hero and a few Henchmen seem to want to take on anyone, which are out of their aggro range. It is starting to get my nerves. I mean I know a few heroes used to do this (like Margrid), but now it’s pretty much all of them. They do this in guard mode and I know this is something they are not suppose to be doing even in attack mode (stay within the aggro bubble when no ones attacking).

ALICE WInterLand · Aug 08, 2008, 06:32 AM // 06:32

i think ANET did a good JOB they Buff up ELITEs that we think werent too useful in the beginning......ELite are suppose to be Better then normal skills so a buff at those elites are a wise choice....It should have been done a long time ago.now with debuffing of ursan i guess.Builds finally matter!