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Zaris · Sep 09, 2008, 10:33 PM // 22:33

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Originally Posted by Esprit

In Fort Aspenwood and Jade Quarry you fight other players, you are pitted versus other players. Thus FA and JQ are PvP. Just a different flavor of it.

If you are saying they are PvE (Player versus Environment) then the Environment is other players, thus GvG would be considered PvE???

Somehow the logic of FA & JQ not being PvP does not compute.

Fa and JQ are counted for Cartographer thereby making them pve

Hailey Anne · Sep 09, 2008, 10:41 PM // 22:41

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Originally Posted by Zaris

Fa and JQ are counted for Cartographer thereby making them pve

FA and JQ can bring PvP only chars to them thereby nulifying your argument.

Esprit · Sep 09, 2008, 10:44 PM // 22:44

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Originally Posted by Zaris

Fa and JQ are counted for Cartographer thereby making them pve

Seems like a shaky reason, if any, to call either of those arenas PvE.

I feel that you need to give me a better reason to call FA and JQ PvE when you are fighting versus other players... also known as PVP!

Zaris · Sep 09, 2008, 10:45 PM // 22:45

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Originally Posted by Hailey Anne

FA and JQ can bring PvP only chars to them thereby nulifying your argument.

They can also be brought to the zaishen challenge but that doesn't make it pvp

Stormlord Alex · Sep 09, 2008, 10:45 PM // 22:45

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Originally Posted by Snow Bunny

Who cares? zzzzzzzz

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Bowstring Badass · Sep 09, 2008, 10:46 PM // 22:46

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Originally Posted by gerlin

, they should be in a separate class, like PvR : Player versus Randomness.

Think RA falls under that category to.

Honestly AB should be called PvWTFARETHESEDUMBIDIOTSRUNNING (yes this is making of bad builds in AB).

But seriously why are the considered PvP they have no PvP aspect aside from maps and killing something.

Nightow · Sep 09, 2008, 10:56 PM // 22:56

This picture should sum it up nicely...

captain_carter · Sep 09, 2008, 11:03 PM // 23:03

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Originally Posted by Nightow

This picture should sum it up nicely...

I think that most definately settles the argument.

Basically this is just an ambiguous weekend, it goes in the semi-regular ambiguous slot and takes up neither of the non-officially-existing PvE/PvP "slots".

Either that or it's both, and everyone gets the right to complain some more, yay!

Shadowmoon · Sep 09, 2008, 11:04 PM // 23:04

For those who think it just random, and not assigned on a balance look here:
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Weekend_events
Most weekend follow the pattern of one pve based weekend, and then one pvp based weekend. The deviations happen when special event are involved, these are based on RL date, but these are usually remedied by two pvp weekend right before or after. If you can fallow the pattern, it mean that anet considers competitive missions bonus weekend as a pve weekend. This pattern goes back to June 07, with the exception of two major events, the GW:EN preview/ launch weekends, and the Xmas promotion of GW:EN. Other than these two events, weekend events are not random and very predictable on the PvP side. The order is alwasy HA, GvG, RA/TA, HB, then AB. The only random element on pvp order is the double tournement rewards, but but the last 2 came right after HA weekend, so that might be it newly made order. THe only time there was ever 3 pvp weekend in a row was when competitive missions were in the middle of HA and tournement point weekends.
And this is what leads me to conclude that Anet thinks competitive mission are PvE, and not doubling the Balth faction as well as Alliance faction just supports my claim.
And the best cement for my claim is that I bet that next weekend will be GvG weekend. Wonder what all these people claiming it random would say if i'm right.

Bryant Again · Sep 09, 2008, 11:07 PM // 23:07

For the record: I'm not one of those saying "lol it's random", but "wow I never noticed that before".

Nonetheless, I don't think anything's really set in stone...

Shyft the Pyro · Sep 09, 2008, 11:53 PM // 23:53

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Originally Posted by DreamWind

I think every weekend should be a PvP weekend. Actually remove PvE from the game.

Please remove yourself from the game. Kthxbai.

Technically, you are already doing it. By playing only PvP - which is your game - you are removing youself from PvE - which is my game. Isn't it wonderful how Guild Wars gives you options? That's the reason this game was successful. People who ask for one part of it to be "deleted" are asking for ANet to shoot themselves in the head.

On topic: Weekend events are lame. I said it when I was a student with tons of free time and I'm still saying it now that I work a 4 to 12 job with a Monday-Tuesday "weekend." All they do is drive up play numbers in specific areas, which makes someone at ANet feel good about themselves.

If ANet really cared about the game (which, to me, means removing grind), they would make "weekend" effects permanent as Zinger suggests, so that people can once again play the game because they love it and not because of e-peens or HoM.

Lest121 · Sep 10, 2008, 12:13 AM // 00:13

Hopefully the skill update this month will make us forget about the crappy (weak)end event.

Hailey Anne · Sep 10, 2008, 02:54 AM // 02:54

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Originally Posted by Zaris

They can also be brought to the zaishen challenge but that doesn't make it pvp

I'm not saying it does.
I'm just saying your argument isn't a very good one about JQ/FA.

DarkNecrid · Sep 10, 2008, 03:03 AM // 03:03

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Originally Posted by Zinger314

ArenaNet should just make those things permanent.

Screw the weekends, they have money!

Is this an Abridged Series reference....

I hope it isn't because that will make me feel dorky if it is.

Also no there really isn't PvE/PvP weekend slots though it usually turns out that way and they wind up even, there has been double PvP weekends and double PvE weekends, so.

Star Gazer · Sep 10, 2008, 04:19 AM // 04:19

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Originally Posted by Nightow

This picture should sum it up nicely...

/closethread

Avarre · Sep 10, 2008, 05:21 AM // 05:21

This is the most pointless complaint I had ever seen.