Jul 25, 2008, 06:57 AM // 06:57
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#321
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Aussie Trolling Crew - Diplomatic Embassy
Guild: I Have Three Pennies [Pnny] - forever in my heart <3
Profession: R/
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People can bullshit all they want about weapon swapping, positioning, interrupt timing etc etc.
Whether they actually practise what they say is a different matter.
And at the end of the day, rank is a measure of how much you played, and the more you play, the more practice you are likely to have had at the aforementioned.
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Sep 21, 2008, 04:05 AM // 04:05
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#322
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Bubblegum Patrol
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Singapore Armed Forces
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Rank at least means you'll have skills unlocked, and if I have a slot with a specific skillbar (ie: a real build), then I don't want any 'I don't have that skill) nonsense wasting my time.
That's just on top of having experience on the maps and objectives.
This thread is kind of old but I don't really care since it's still valid.
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Sep 21, 2008, 04:15 AM // 04:15
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#323
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Guest
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Denmark
Guild: {MM}
Profession: Mo/
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Being ranked just means you have that level of experience in the area. Does not mean you have more "skillz" than the others, because you can still iway/sway/heroway and get the rank you want. When I am looking for a group I don't really care about what rank people have, although I do prefer a group that knows what they are doing which is what rank shows me.
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Sep 21, 2008, 04:33 AM // 04:33
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#324
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Major-General Awesome
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Aussie Trolling Crew HQ - Event Organiser and IRC Tiger
Guild: Ex Talionis [Law], Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] ̖̊̋̌̍̎̊̋&#
Profession: W/
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Pretty sure I've posted in here, but I don't care to look.
Rank = experience.
Rank was never really = skill, except in the Aus/Korean timezones. If you ever played then, you'd understand why I say this.
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Sep 21, 2008, 04:36 AM // 04:36
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#325
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Bubblegum Patrol
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Singapore Armed Forces
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fenix
Rank was never really = skill, except in the Aus/Korean timezones. If you ever played then, you'd understand why I say this.
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I've played with ranked [Law] members that were atrocious, and had no grasp of basic mechanics.
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Sep 21, 2008, 04:38 AM // 04:38
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#326
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Major-General Awesome
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Aussie Trolling Crew HQ - Event Organiser and IRC Tiger
Guild: Ex Talionis [Law], Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] ̖̊̋̌̍̎̊̋&#
Profession: W/
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Probably the OTHER Law... the scrubby ones who thought they were awesome.
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I came when I heard you'd beaten the ELITE FOUR.
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Sep 21, 2008, 05:14 AM // 05:14
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#327
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Jul 2006
Profession: P/W
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do i believe rank is a very basic way of knowing someone's xp? yes
do i believe that rank determines everything?
no
it's okay to make ranked groups, but after 3 it doesn't rly matter
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Sep 21, 2008, 07:55 AM // 07:55
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#328
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Grotto Attendant
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Rank =/= skill, but it means at least EXPERIENCE, knowing each map, and thats really important in HA. You can be skilled, but if you dont know the maps, you'll probably fail for the first few times. Thats why rank discrimination exist.
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Sep 21, 2008, 12:16 PM // 12:16
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#329
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: -... . .... .. -. -.. / -.-- --- ..-
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Doesnt mean anything. Except telling the whole world "I have a flash light show, enjoy"
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Sep 21, 2008, 12:39 PM // 12:39
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#330
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Dec 2005
Guild: Lucky Crickets[Luck]
Profession: N/Me
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On a scale of 1 to 10? Rank means 0 to me.
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Sep 21, 2008, 12:44 PM // 12:44
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#331
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Scotland
Guild: Type like an idiot, I'll treat you like an idiot
Profession: E/Me
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When I stop seeing people above rank 6 run horrible builds, die very quickly and bitch at their team, I'll believe rank has an important role to play.
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Sep 21, 2008, 12:49 PM // 12:49
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#332
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Malta
Guild: [CuTe]
Profession: E/
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Sorry dunno what the hell is wrong I keep double posting for some reason and its not on purpose :/
Last edited by DarkGanni; Sep 21, 2008 at 01:05 PM // 13:05..
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Sep 21, 2008, 12:53 PM // 12:53
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#333
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Malta
Guild: [CuTe]
Profession: E/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Taurucis
Rank does mean something to me. The higher one's rank, the less respect I have for the person.
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Lol this post is pure win.
Rank to me is grind. My only respect goes to those who worked hard for it and honestly and to the ones who don't go: I'M R12 EAT MY PHOENIX YOU NOOB
Mature ranked players have my respect, Jerks will never have it.
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Sep 21, 2008, 01:10 PM // 13:10
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#334
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Oct 2006
Profession: E/Mo
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Every title in the game has negative value to me. Titles contributed to the destruction of the game.
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Sep 21, 2008, 01:23 PM // 13:23
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#335
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Krytan Explorer
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Does rank mean anything to me? Yes. It means that I'll never be interested in the PvP side of the game. Going through a form of screening process for an occupation is one thing. Going through a screening process to play a game leaves me completely disinterested in it. Rank is grind. Grind and titles screw up the game.
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Sep 21, 2008, 03:05 PM // 15:05
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#336
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Seoul, Korea
Profession: Mo/Me
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Rank means EVERYTHING to me. Having rank discrimination is a way to distinguish one with experience from one who lacks experience. Of course, there are some exceptions to this discrimination as we all know. These exceptions include high-ranked people who sold their accounts and continue playing on their noob accounts and those who are really good at GvG but just started in HA.
This problem is not new at all, really. It has been going on for almost 3 years now, ever since 1 - 2 months after Guild Wars started. If you have just bought this game, you will have very little chances of achieving successes in any competitive areas (HA or GvG). The game is 3-year old and it's about to die. My only suggestion to the newcomers in competitive play is to practice for PvP in RA or TA (maybe GvG if you have a dedicated guild) and wait for Guild Wars II to come out and try your skills there. Don't form a randomway in HA if you're not a high-ranked player... it is pointless, a waste of time, and you are giving free fame to the opposing team. Unless, you have nothing productive to do... You can ignore my advice and form one. See what will happen...
Anyway... Rank is everything so please stop asking these questions. If you can't find a group with your rank then it's your fault for not joining PvP early enough. We all know that we cannot trust a random person from HA ID 1 (except randomway). I do realize the injustice in rank discrimination toward the newcomers when I started this reply so if you feel that you're having difficulties joining a group in HA, just follow my advices in the second paragraph. It's not very detailed but at least it will give you an idea of where to start.
P.S. To those who grind their way to a certain rank, I want to congratulate those people on wasting their time. For those who say that this game doesn't require skills, you guys are wrong. We all know that you've gotten tired of this game and maybe you're a high-ranked player, please stop saying this or just stop playing the games so the newcomers can have their chances in competitive plays. With experience, people will develop certain skills to avoid the mistakes they made that caused their teams to lose. Therefore, we can say that experience is the same thing as skill and knowledge.
I apologize if my reply offends anyone, but this subject is tough to address!
Last edited by II Lucky Charm II; Sep 21, 2008 at 03:46 PM // 15:46..
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Sep 21, 2008, 03:17 PM // 15:17
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#337
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Urgoz Warren
Guild: Legion of Doom [LOD] Home of PWNZILLA http://PWNZILLA.guildlaunch.com
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Lol @ ^ ^
Rank is far from meaning everything, all it shows is the amount of time spent doing a certain activity in the game, i.e, experience. It has nothing to do with skill or knowledge.
This is clearly more obvious in PvE than PvP (although it includes both), I've seen so many GWAMMs with the IQ of a plant, and no clue on how to actually play the game.
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Sep 21, 2008, 03:22 PM // 15:22
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#338
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: -... . .... .. -. -.. / -.-- --- ..-
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I understand, rank for some veterans and hardcore pvp players means something. Rank for the majority (mostly new and pve players ) however means nothing. And sadly these questions will never stop they just quiet down for awhile then come back up again.
Last edited by Jumping Is Uselss; Sep 21, 2008 at 03:28 PM // 15:28..
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Sep 21, 2008, 03:52 PM // 15:52
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#339
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Hell's Protector
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Canada
Guild: Brothers Disgruntled
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Thizzle
I was the one that made the comment about the Zaishen because I usually get a laugh when someone uses /zrank to me. I have little patience for that stupid gamer mentality.
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I don't PvP at all, so I have no idea what Rank means what - if someone was to say they were "Rank2" I don't even know if that's high or low - so, no, Rank doesn't mean anything to me.
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Sep 21, 2008, 04:08 PM // 16:08
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#340
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Nov 2005
Guild: Zerohour Enterprises [ZHE]
Profession: W/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Avarre
Rank at least means you'll have skills unlocked, and if I have a slot with a specific skillbar (ie: a real build), then I don't want any 'I don't have that skill) nonsense wasting my time.
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Not true. I have 10 fame and am UAX. Granted, the majority of PvE'ers do not have EVERYTHING unlocked, some do
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no, rank means nothing. rank means you have the time to play, and have friends in game with the same mind set. i do not view it as skill.
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