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sindex · Sep 22, 2008, 07:53 AM // 07:53

I think there are those who see that HoM will be a “gold mine” for GW 2 and others like myself who actually expects it to fail in every possible way. Come on people this is A-net we are talking about here, in which their reward system is pure and under crap. Plus I don’t expect any info on GW till it actually is just out of it’s beta phase in probably early 2011. No, I doubt in the next two years we will remotely see anything new on GW 2 except for the past information that was handed down to us. They probably have yet to implement half of the features they have mentioned in the past articles yet. I blame their lofty goals, which they set for themselves.

the lesser · Sep 22, 2008, 08:15 AM // 08:15

from what i have heard (wiki i think i saw it on), destroyer weapons and tormented weapons will be available for use on your gw2 character, i dont believe all of them will, seeing as you can put alot on display, you will probably be able to choose one set from your hom.

and watching the ending of eotn the other day i got the idea that your character will live on being that your gw2 characters will be descendants, which makes sense passing a sword an shield or something down your family line.

how this will work for non-human characters i can only guess. and notice this is just hearsay and speculation.

and btw, it always amazes me how some of you love to shit on a-net. stop playing guild wars then, talk about biting the hand that feeds you.

fireflyry · Sep 22, 2008, 09:42 AM // 09:42

Sure it would be nice to know as I for one can't be bothered with HoM at all.Knowledge of the rewards may motivate me to grind aspects of it....doubtful but maybe.

In saying it seems pretty obvious why they won't release info on it for a bit.

Would you grind out HoM for something you didn't want?

Exactly.

It's the mystery and lack of knowledge that keeps many players motivated to fill up the HoM, remove that and what the heck will they focus on for the next 18 months?

I'm betting the rewards will be a let down for the majority of those with full halls.Anyone would want to delay that QQ.

tmakinen · Sep 22, 2008, 09:52 AM // 09:52

ANet has quite clearly stated that all you'll ever get out of HoM is bling. Is there anything else that one should know? Like, is it quality bling? Does that matter, bling is bling.

Lycan Nibbler · Sep 22, 2008, 10:08 AM // 10:08

By the time GW2 is out, everyone will have the same bling anyway

Stuart444 · Sep 22, 2008, 11:17 AM // 11:17

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Originally Posted by Vilaptca

Its not unfair. Its smart.

When's GW2 coming out again? Oh yeah, we don't really know yet. Anything they tell us is theoretical, all of it could change. If they just stay silent they won't have to deal with all the backlash when players start yelling about broken promises and betrayal.

tbh, this is what I was thinking when I read the opening post.

Laughing Bat · Sep 22, 2008, 11:49 AM // 11:49

Seeing as gaile once compared the hom rewards to the 1st year hats I really don't see why its so important for you to know now. I'd like some gw2 info but hom is probably the least thing I'm worried about.

The thing I'm most looking forward to about the hom is all of the people who completely ignored anet's description of it and then get pissed off because they grinded 30+ titles or whatever and then don't have anything but a shiny hat to show for it in gw2. Should of gotten a real job, it would of paid better

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Stolen Souls · Sep 22, 2008, 11:56 AM // 11:56

Yeah, they aren't required to tell us anything. Everything IS still speculation. What I believe (MY speculation) is that maxing a certain monument will unlock a similar reward in GW2 (max the minipet monument in GW1 and get a special minipet in GW2, max the hero monument in GW1 and get a special sidekick in GW2, max the weapon monument in GW1 and get a special "/bonus" weapon in GW2, max the armor monument in GW1 and get a special hat/headpiece in GW2, max PvP stuff in GW1 and get an emote in GW2...etc.

Nothing will carry DIRECTLY over. (Putting your mini panda in the GW1 HoM will not give you the mini panda in GW2. You will not have all those Tormented/Destroyer weapons available in GW2, etc.)

I have a feeling a lot of people are gonna be really disappointed when GW2 comes out, in all honesty. But we shall see.

^again, that is all just my speculation...

Taixen · Sep 22, 2008, 12:05 PM // 12:05

I am happy to wait for GW2s release to see exactly what we'll get for a full HoM.

Whatever the reward/benefit will be it'll be something that you'd have not otherwise had.

So, if people who WANT to waste so many hours of their lives complain, more fool them for not embracing the outside world more ^^

Thargor · Sep 22, 2008, 12:05 PM // 12:05

It really does not matter if they tell us anything or not.
There is only one thing that is guaranteed to happen when GW2 comes out, A LOT of QQ'ing.
They could give us nothing and people will cry, or they could give us a bag of everlasting plat and people will cry because they were to lazy to fill their hall.
QQ'ing is the one thing that is always guaranteed with the GW fanbase, no matter what anet does.

kratimas · Sep 22, 2008, 01:07 PM // 13:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucia

We all know that the Hall of Monuments (HoM) is the bridge between GW1 and GW2. Many players have played GW1 for years and are now stopping since they feel that they have "exhausted" the game. Many others are still playing and focusing on preparing for GW2 by expanding their HoM.

And now comes the problem. Blah blah blah............

Nevertheless, I think that it is unfair that Anet are taking their time to decide and notify players of the HoM capacity in GW2.

This statement made me LOL @ You!

Opinions?

This is a pretty stupid thread.

Who cares what you get? If you have nothing better to do with your time then "fill" your HoM then that is your choice. You are not going to get anything that gives you an advantage over other players.

So, if you feel that grinding for hours and hours and hours and hours and..... for a skin is worth using your time then have at it, but please stop creating stupid threads saying ANet needs to let us know blah blah blah. Its your choice "Make it and deal with it!"

It really is that simple!

Lucia · Sep 22, 2008, 02:02 PM // 14:02

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Originally Posted by kratimas

This is a pretty stupid thread.

Who cares what you get?

I respect your opinion, but jeez, can't you be polite about it?

You are entitled to believe what you like, others (including myself) may disagree with you, but I still won't call your post "stupid".

romeus petrus · Sep 22, 2008, 02:11 PM // 14:11

Clearly this thread is a matter of speculation. One thing is certain, NOTHING you put in HoM will give you any kind of advantage in GW2. That may (and should) very well include stuff you can sell as that will give you a clear financial advantage.

Think BMP-like stuff.

Stuart444 · Sep 22, 2008, 02:30 PM // 14:30

There is one thing we can all be certain of though, GW2 will have difference Races ^_^, I'm more excited about playing different races besides humans than anything related to the HoM >_>

Orange Milk · Sep 22, 2008, 02:32 PM // 14:32

Simple "Supply and Demand"

Currently by ANet not telling us whats going to happen they have created a "Demand" for a "Supply" that is not even know yet. And that, my friends, is what you want in business.

IF they tell us whats going to happen and some folks don't like or don't care about what the HoM leads to then they lose some of the Demand. Sure there is also a chance that releasing information will lead to a higher demand. But the "aura" of the unknow is a much greater selling point at this time.

Shadowmoon · Sep 22, 2008, 02:35 PM // 14:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laughing Bat

The thing I'm most looking forward to about the hom is all of the people who completely ignored anet's description of it and then get pissed off because they grinded 30+ titles or whatever and then don't have anything but a shiny hat to show for it in gw2. Should of gotten a real job, it would of paid better

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If they give the people with 30+ titles divine aura in gw2, i'd consider it time well spent. I understand it only cometic, but everything is this game is cosmetic. 400e e-blades have the same stats as the 100g blue swords. And that what i hope gw stays with functionality is cheap, and vansity is expensive.

*Darcy* · Sep 22, 2008, 03:02 PM // 15:02

How about a "Descendant of a Hero" title track? Max your HoM and you get rank 10 to flash around.

I think that is more the type of reward ANet will be giving to GW players. Anything else that is physical -- including customized minis, weapon skins, emotes, auras, etc. -- will cause huge amounts of screaming and "I wants" from the GW2 players.

Remember BMP - how it was only for people who spent a certain amount of real world money in the online store? Remember the screams from the people who didn't fulfill the requirements? Remember the solution? Anyone can buy the BMP.

The only way to avoid the same type of situation in GW2 over the HoM reward is to make it something that cannot be separately reproduced for the wannabes. While at one point last year, it was mentioned in an interview that HoM rewards would have a cutoff date (within months of intro of GW2) and future HoMs would not give any reward in GW2, I take that with a grain of salt.

But as long as the same amount of effort has to be expended, I won't care.

4thVariety · Sep 22, 2008, 03:11 PM // 15:11

Players now hunt for items to display how unique they are and that they are better. Check out my armor, I'm cooler, check my emote, I'm better, check my title I grind harder. All that will get reset upon the release of GW2 and nothing you can quick import by means of the HoM will restore those street-credits. New loot and stuff will do that! Things which are not connected to GW1.

Having said that, the HoM is an incentive for people to buy GW2. In order for that incentive to really work it will be most likely be granted to as many people as possible. It will also be something that takes reasonable time to develop. Anet will most likely not carry 1000 skins over into the new game.

Players will get their unique visual reward as promised in interviews past. The meaning of that should be obvious to anyone. There is one set of equipment for the veteran players. One special armor, one special skins set for weapons, one minipet one hero and/or pet and maybe some green text below your name. Beyond that anything is a waste of time. People should play GW2 for its rewards, not for the reward you import from the old game. The HoM items in GW2 will neither make you wealthy nor will they grant you any more respect (which they are also not doing right not, regardless how long you idle around in towns showing off.)

Skyy High · Sep 22, 2008, 03:12 PM // 15:12

I still think they'll be shooting themselves in the foot if they reward, for example, a minipet monument filled with nagas and vizus in the same manner as one filled with devourers and trolls. Individualized rewards may not be feasible, but there needs to be some hierarchy of rewards based on the rarities and value of weapons/armor/minis/titles placed in the Hall. Without such a hierarchy, it's really not a way of transferring your accomplishments from GW1 to GW2, as they said it would be...it's just a generic "Did you play GW1? Grats, here's your mini." unlock mechanic, which is certainly not as epic as they've implied it would be.

Ravious · Sep 22, 2008, 03:33 PM // 15:33

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Originally Posted by Skyy High

I still think they'll be shooting themselves in the foot if they reward, for example, a minipet monument filled with nagas and vizus in the same manner as one filled with devourers and trolls. Individualized rewards may not be feasible, but there needs to be some hierarchy of rewards based on the rarities and value of weapons/armor/minis/titles placed in the Hall. Without such a hierarchy, it's really not a way of transferring your accomplishments from GW1 to GW2, as they said it would be...it's just a generic "Did you play GW1? Grats, here's your mini." unlock mechanic, which is certainly not as epic as they've implied it would be.

I have three things:

1. A hierarchy would be nice, but I doubt its going to happen. If you flatline everything (e.g. every mini is worth 1 point, every hero is worth 1 point, every title is worth 1 point) then you will get it as fair as you can. People will complain, but much less than if you tried to attribute some distinct value to everything.

2. Knowing a little about game development (not much though), they probably have some concrete ideas for the rewards, but that concrete is likely no where near setting yet. Things change. Sure, GW1 minis might give GW2 minis easy enough, but it seems like ANet is building up towards a heaven-shaking, plasma light beam hadouken of information for GW2, which leads me to:

3. I think ANet understands their business model really well. Unfortunately this arcane voodoo of marketing makes no sense to the more hardcore, but they are nearing 6 million sales. An ace in the hole is definitely the transfer of epeen across to the sequel. When they drop the bomb I expect servers and sales to spike. If it just leaks slowly out as they have the information re HoM... well I think marketing thinks/knows that the sales spike will not be as great.