Curse

scheme · Oct 13, 2008, 05:59 AM // 05:59

Recently there have been several guilds I have seen that have been farming champion points by the following method:

They buy several champion-point range guilds, and they go on different accounts have these guilds play each other. However, the lameness does not end there. If they find out that their own guilds are not playing each other, they just exit the game before loading, resulting in the guild not losing any rating (because nobody loaded). I believe this is unacceptable, but I wish to hear the opinions of everyone else in the community.

These are some guilds that are owned that are partaking in this ladder manipulation:

Not Another Reform [NRF]
Idiot Savant [iQ] (not the real [iQ], there is no "s")

fenix · Oct 13, 2008, 06:14 AM // 06:14

The only thing that makes this bad, is the quitting before loading bit, and not losing rating. Aside from that, everyone will know who the farmers are, so it's not like they'll suddenly get into top 5 guilds due to champ rank, or win an mAT...

undeadgun · Oct 13, 2008, 08:13 AM // 08:13

If there is a system, you know people are going to abuse the sh*t out of it no matter what.

FoxBat · Oct 13, 2008, 08:39 AM // 08:39

If they do it smartly, they can just win-trade the two champ guilds eternally. They won't ever need to buy any other guilds again.

That seems pretty freaking broken.

fenix · Oct 13, 2008, 09:16 AM // 09:16

But there IS a limit to how many times you can rated GvG against someone in a 24 hour period, so that would mean they'd need to buy a whole lot of guilds....

zwei2stein · Oct 13, 2008, 09:28 AM // 09:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by fenix

But there IS a limit to how many times you can rated GvG against someone in a 24 hour period, so that would mean they'd need to buy a whole lot of guilds....

Or be ... gasp ... patient?

pumpkin pie · Oct 13, 2008, 09:42 AM // 09:42

Earlier I posted a reply to this thread which was me laughing my heart out at the next level of players EXPLOITING THE GAME MECHANIC to gain advantage over other players. I was laughing because this thread just proof to Arena Net that Synching is getting to become a serious problem and they have to look into it. partly laughing because players stoop so low as to think of syching as an alternative to winning. Partly laughing because this may trigger Arena Net to do something about synching.

It was also partly because the other thread's discussion has already made me suspicious that players actually might/would try to sync in other PvP area. In fact it has been on my mind further then the Random Arena Synching Discussion. I just didn't want to mention it, because if it is not a known "fact", the chances of players imitating the method will be significantly lower since it is not known.

Now I might as well say it. I also suspect HA players to have been synching. Sometime upon entering a HA battle, at the begining, you find there's only one player on the opposing group, appears to be an AFK-er, I say AFK-er, because, prior to this last one leaving, you see another 2 names "has left the game" having only one players left we thought might as well get rid of them, and surprisingly they left also, so we got free win. off course everyone is happy, but THE PROBLEM IS: what was the other group doing? why has they left? Synching immediately came to mind when I stumble upon group that left at the beginning of a Hero's Accent's game a thrid time.

I apologize if I did not explain my ROFLMAO in the previously deleted post, it was with an intent and does have something to do with this thread.

Players sync in Alliance Battle as well if you want to know.

Synching in Guild Wars has become an irritating factor that Arena Net must look into and come up with a good solution. It does not affect me if you think I want to whine, okay, maybe a little, but that's over, I've already abandon Random Arena. I'll only go back to that "Arena" when it is a FAIR Arena.

upier · Oct 13, 2008, 09:42 AM // 09:42

Thanks for the tip!

Where do I sign up?

Luminarus · Oct 13, 2008, 09:51 AM // 09:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by zwei2stein

Or be ... gasp ... patient?

NEVER... havent all the gw2 QQ threads taught u anything?

OT... sounds like a glitch in the game (leaving and not losing rating). Would be a good way to make money, selling champ points, but it should be killed asap coz champ is like the only title left with prestige attached.

Killed u man · Oct 13, 2008, 10:37 AM // 10:37

GvG after NF is srs bsns guys!!!

The Arching Healer · Oct 13, 2008, 10:57 AM // 10:57

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Originally Posted by Killed u man

GvG after NF is srs bsns guys!!!

Hey, you are not allowed to leave the gladiator forums

Well I'm sure this tactic gets owned by r-spike easily.

Shayne Hawke · Oct 13, 2008, 11:46 AM // 11:46

So, is there a title with any good reputation left?

fenix · Oct 13, 2008, 11:54 AM // 11:54

No. But that was inevitable.

ALF71BE · Oct 13, 2008, 12:00 PM // 12:00

Ladder manipulation? In MY GvG?

No wai!

Quote:

Originally Posted by undeadgun

If there is a system, you know people are going to abuse the sh*t out of it no matter what.

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10325586

It's sad, indeed. But at least we got Gamer.

Lykan · Oct 13, 2008, 12:07 PM // 12:07

Welcome to 'Title' Wars, I mean Guild Wars.

Uzul · Oct 13, 2008, 12:46 PM // 12:46

This has been happening forever. Now it's champion points, back then it was rating itself - sooner or later it will be fixed, only to have a new "exploit" emerge.

Damn am I glad that I retired from the "srs bsns"... There are more foul apples in the pvp basket than ladder manipulation (for rating or champion points) and syncing into RA/HA/AB/...

Shasgaliel · Oct 13, 2008, 12:55 PM // 12:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by ALF71BE

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10325586

It's sad, indeed. But at least we got Gamer.

Lol so they not only farm points which in theory should not be farmed but also got a lot of ingame money from that.... I wonder when this services will appear on Ebay or such. Hope then Anet will notice it finally.

makosi · Oct 13, 2008, 01:20 PM // 13:20

The reason that the Hero title is so trashy is that people are desperate for the rank, emotes and crystallines. People will try any lame, exploitative method of farming fame and holding HoH.

Now that GvG offers title points, shiny cape trims and subsequent financial prosperity, it is the subject of abuse from greedy people.

I don't want to say that rewards should be removed because the genuine players shouldn't have limitations imposed upon them as a result of 'cheats'. Just do something about guild selling and champ farming.

Those [eF] guys in Kamadan make me puke as they flaunt their bought trim.

Dronte · Oct 13, 2008, 01:29 PM // 13:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by ALF71BE

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10325586

I dont even feel like doing gvg any more.. disguisting. WTB perma-ban for abusers.

payne · Oct 13, 2008, 02:01 PM // 14:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by makosi

Those [eF] guys make me puke as they flaunt their bought trim.

corrected that for you ^^

anywho since when do titles show skill or achievement? noobs have also exploited the loop-holes in the game and that will never change...

titles are worthless - quality of the title is in the eye-of-the-beholder ONLY - s(he) is the only one that the title will be impressive to...as every title can now be bought (exception of gamer - long live those sad-acks with nothing better to do....go you) the title will only remain impressive to the person who has rightfully ern't their title...

example being leg guardian for me - never used ursan (even when it was all the craze) that gives me a sense of achievement that I managed it without the cookie-cutter builds....

summing up:
titles are only impressive to the player that ern't them...
so regardless of how broken the system is and how unfare it may seem *cough*! noobs will always exploit things for cheap gain where-as skilled players will NORMALLY earn them!

BIGGEST POINT: there at last...
EVEN IF THESE BAD PLAYERS BUY THERE TITLES (as highlighted in some other posts above this) they will instantly be found out when they apply for a top20 guild...as they will be no-were near good enough for them....
greed and lust won't get them far in a good guild - neither will infitite amounts of cash...

nuff said