Curse

Winterclaw · Nov 02, 2008, 05:36 PM // 17:36

Question, does anyone play PvE with other gamers and not just H/H it? If you do play with others, do you ever pug?

Frankly, I haven't do PvE with others in ages. With the exception of helping someone I knew finish EoTN, the last time I can remember playing with others is pugging to finish the last two missions in NF the first two times I beat it.

Is there anything that can be done to make grouping with real people more attractive than the old Ursan?

fenix · Nov 02, 2008, 05:39 PM // 17:39

No.

End of thread.

The Red Messenger · Nov 02, 2008, 05:46 PM // 17:46

yes.

early prophecies missions can still be pugged. so can starter island nighfall and starter island factions. basically the ones that take 4 people in a party.

other missions can be pugged but take a long time to fill up normally

jiggles · Nov 02, 2008, 05:49 PM // 17:49

I have one guildie, and one ex guildie who i pve with sometimes. Mainly its h/h.

Xsiriss · Nov 02, 2008, 05:53 PM // 17:53

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Originally Posted by fenix

No.

End of thread.

Trolling,you're doing it wrong,alt+f4 pls.

I did a few of the prophecies missions with people and some of factions, since heroes came out I just used them. Use of players/PUGing is deeeeeead, bring on 7 heroes.

here to troll · Nov 02, 2008, 05:59 PM // 17:59

the only way people would start pugging(beside elite missions like uw or sync stuff like uwsc) is if heros got 99% less damage and healing and enchants and weapon spells last 99% less.

miskav · Nov 02, 2008, 06:03 PM // 18:03

not since 2 years ago.

Avarre · Nov 02, 2008, 06:03 PM // 18:03

I don't PvE unless someone asks me for help and I like that person.

fenix · Nov 02, 2008, 06:09 PM // 18:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xsiriss

Trolling,you're doing it wrong,alt+f4 pls.

I did a few of the prophecies missions with people and some of factions, since heroes came out I just used them. Use of players/PUGing is deeeeeead, bring on 7 heroes.

Hang on, did you just say I was doing trolling wrong? You must be new here.

Game is dead, no one does anything with people unless they're in a huge PvE alliance (lolbad).

Hell Raiser · Nov 02, 2008, 06:33 PM // 18:33

I still PvE, sure it's mostly with H/H, but I play with my guildies quite often too. But PUGs died a long time ago.

Musei Karasu · Nov 02, 2008, 06:36 PM // 18:36

I just PUGed Dzagonur Bastion only a few days ago. Most of Nightfall is still PUGable, and I think a good portion of EoTN is still PUGable too.

dilan155 · Nov 02, 2008, 06:41 PM // 18:41

most of my pve is done with h/h but there are some instances where i PUG, those are rare though. the early missions in noob islands can be done with pugs.

Yawgmoth · Nov 02, 2008, 06:41 PM // 18:41

I only PvE multiplayer... which comes to almost not PvE'ing at all.
I can H/H almost everything but I find that so extremelly boring that I can't get myself to do it. But when I have a chance to play with other people I'm happy to join (except when I clearly see the group is full of fail, obv).

I consider a good centralized LFG mechanism to be the single most important update PvE needs.
Without that people who want to play with others have no way to find each other. There's no single place a person who wants to do "vanquish an area in Tyria" or "do a HM dungeon" could go to find other people. They're sperad around the world, soloing or have quit the game long ago.

Owik Gall · Nov 02, 2008, 06:44 PM // 18:44

The campaign that makes multiplayer team most possible is the very first one, Prophecies. You don't get any heroes there and there are some regions where you may want help to get pass, especially the missions. I see that game as being the most people friendly of all games, not to mention that it's a classic.

Rhamia Darigaz · Nov 02, 2008, 07:11 PM // 19:11

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Originally Posted by fenix

You must be new here.

hmm...
i know i've seen this phrase on some other site before, but i can't remember where it was...

wind fire and ice · Nov 02, 2008, 07:20 PM // 19:20

Most people have quit PUGs,though theres still quite afew people in EoTN who atleast try to start/find them.

I myself only play pve with other people when its guildies/friends,but heroes are usually easier to work with,soo i prefer those.

Shayne Hawke · Nov 02, 2008, 07:24 PM // 19:24

At times, if I see someone in town that's absolutely clueless on some easy quest or mission, I'll do it for them out of boredom, and I also get to play a little bit these days with some friends of mine that are becoming slightly reinterested in GW. Unfortunately, those experiences feel for the most part that I'm just doing stuff in a party of 3, 5, 7 and that the other person is just a third wheel or something.

For stuff I actually cared about, like in HM, I did everything on my own, aside from missions such as Eternal Grove or similar missions, and the first few times I vanquished was with some random people I met during a vanquish weekend who, again, mostly came along for the ride.

In PvP, I PuG for just about everything except if I can find someone to sync games with. Even then, I usually meet and play with someone I don't know.

Solution to PuGing: an easily accessible system for advertising and joining guilds. I haven't done anything significant with guilds in my entire history because none of them seemed to clearly state what they did, and I'm sure most of the people joining them had apathetic attitudes towards the guild as well. A system similar to Party Search built specifically for advertising, recruiting for, and joining guilds would allow players to more easily find a guild that suits them, encouraging them to play with players of that guild.

Of course, that's not going to happen, so plan B is to just shoot 90% of the playerbase that has bad ideas on how to play the game and hope that we can get along with the remaining 10%.

Zidane Ortef · Nov 02, 2008, 07:31 PM // 19:31

Get a better guild I play with humans all the time. Surround yourself with better players and you will H/H less, Slowly working on titles and most everything ive done has been with humans makes the game fun and makes HM even more of a joke with humans compared to the joke it is with H/H. Better players = better groups.

Aera Lure · Nov 02, 2008, 07:31 PM // 19:31

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Originally Posted by Winterclaw

Question, does anyone play PvE with other gamers and not just H/H it? If you do play with others, do you ever pug?

It used to be my favorite thing about the game. Up through Factions I played in PUGs all the time. I got 12 Protectors titles across six characters that way (Prophecies and Factions). I used to haunt various mission locations and monk there just for the fun of it. I rarely ever experienced the massive failures described by many that are now said to be indicative of all PUG play. Might be that way now, but back then, if you recruited or joined wisely, the party usually did just fine. There were so many groups forming anywhere you went.

Shortly after Nightfall came out a lot of that went away, and I retired the first time not too long after that. I came back, though, joined a new guild and with my guild leader we H/H Legendary Guardian and MotN. I had a great time, and at least that wasnt full H/H. Some great fun was had to be sure. My favorite thing though is a fully human group, be it a guild group or a PUG group. I havent really any desire to come back now given much of that is gone.

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Originally Posted by Winterclaw

Is there anything that can be done to make grouping with real people more attractive than the old Ursan?

No. Much of the problem now is perception, although possibly also population count. People seem to forget that up through Factions, that was the way the game was largely played - all-human teams, be they PUG or guild groups. Few wish to make that effort anymore. There's been a shift away from team play with humans and I dont see a way back.

maraxusofk · Nov 02, 2008, 07:57 PM // 19:57

if u want to pug with other players, expect the group to be for masters only.