Curse

nagmier · Nov 13, 2008, 04:57 AM // 04:57

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Originally Posted by Avarre

I don't see how he was 'harassing' or being impolite.

It was a rhetorical question based on the fact that he stated "I" never did this or that...

Star Gazer · Nov 13, 2008, 05:25 AM // 05:25

i was merely stating out of context to prevent people from saying 'OMG YOU WERE ONE OF TEH KIDZ DOIN IT'

no, i was not one of those "kids". I do think that players should be polite. the way she stated it in her post was just awful. you do not treat customers as children in your classroom. I am sorry, but my own mother doesn't speak to me like that anymore.

Konig Des Todes · Nov 13, 2008, 06:33 AM // 06:33

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Originally Posted by Star Gazer

i was merely stating out of context to prevent people from saying 'OMG YOU WERE ONE OF TEH KIDZ DOIN IT'

no, i was not one of those "kids". I do think that players should be polite. the way she stated it in her post was just awful. you do not treat customers as children in your classroom. I am sorry, but my own mother doesn't speak to me like that anymore.

Unfortunately, and luckily imo, people do not turn the other cheek. A lot of people will give ANet crap no matter what, if Regina just let it be, or asked nicely for people to improve, they wouldn't give a flying crap and would in fact act worse.

This is in part due to the whole anonymous thing of the internet, but, imo, moreso due to the fact that grade schoolers are constantly stuck either being bullies or getting bullied, and most teachers do absolutely NOTHING about it. With this, the bullies think they can get away with more and more, and the bullied want to get back when they feel like they can get away with things, even if they are not getting back at those who bullied them. As such, people, not just kids mind you, annoy others - including company staff - whenever they can.

And your attitude only proves Regina right in how rude people can act. If you're not one of the rude people, she isn't talking about you. Even though it can be seen as though people talk about everyone in a large group, they could very easily be talking about a small group within that large group. And that is the case here - pointed out by the "mix on that front."

If she was a devout christian, that is devout enough to follow the "turn the other cheek" rule, then the issue would just continue, spread, and overall get worse and it would probably never end unless there is immense banning.

pumpkin pie · Nov 13, 2008, 06:43 AM // 06:43

This actually reminds me of an incident during one of the guild organised events in Lion's Arch, ReginaB was very nice to take time to attend the function, and upon arriving, the organiser annouce that she's there as a guest and not on Arena Net time/work time, and tell the players to not ask any game related question, but there was one person, who continuously ask a game related question over and over and over and over and over over and over and over and over and over!

I think it is because players act like 3 years old, hence the only way to treat them is as if they are 3 years old.

Dami · Nov 13, 2008, 10:26 AM // 10:26

perhaps peeps should stop moaning about what should be nerfed./balanced/destroyed so much .... then updates wouldnt be quite so big and prolly would reach us in time

Arduin · Nov 13, 2008, 11:24 AM // 11:24

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Originally Posted by Dami

perhaps peeps should stop moaning about what should be nerfed./balanced/destroyed so much .... then updates wouldnt be quite so big and prolly would reach us in time

There wouldn't be any update then, other than the nerfing of an overpowered farming build or PvP gimmick.

Although if no-one whines about that particular farming build or PvP gimmick, there's no reason for Anet to change anything.

So whine = good

Abedeus · Nov 13, 2008, 11:27 AM // 11:27

Whining changes the world. Praising doesn't.

Fril Estelin · Nov 13, 2008, 01:23 PM // 13:23

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Originally Posted by Azazel The Assassin

Unlike most people on Guru, I am thankful for every single tiny thing you guys at ANet do, even if it hurts me and my playstyle.

No you're not alone, not at all, but most keep silent. And many "English" (I'm French :P) people are very polite and respectful people, but I've seen French districts and a good in-game friend of mine is German, and it seems that the CM's comments are true, the English-speaking community is in average crap (but I bet most people are not from an English-speaking country). And people should be polite, players or not, contrarily to what Star Gazer say.

And I must say that Aria's post was most rejuvenating, welcome back!

And also ty to Regina, Linsey, the devs and QA team for their hard word and keeping us informed.

Dogmire · Nov 13, 2008, 01:25 PM // 13:25

I just feel that if these programmers are being over worked and missing deadlines and keeping Halloween decorations up for who knows how long that it’s not their fault. I think it’s ANET’s fault for not hiring enough people to do what needs to be done. It’s hard times out there people need jobs hook em up! You need them they need you its win win.

Star Gazer · Nov 13, 2008, 04:51 PM // 16:51

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Originally Posted by Fril Estelin

And people should be polite, players or not, contrarily to what Star Gazer say.

Reading Comprehension 101. Please take before spouting crap out of your mouth.

When did I say that it was ok to harrass ANYONE, regardless of who they are? I never said that. Those kids who do that need to take Maturity 101 (with a co-requisite in Reading Comprehension 101) and grow the hell up.

My post was about how Regina had to come out and say that it actually happened. The people who were there saw that. The people who were there are used to it. But for her to come out and say GERMAN + FRENCH > ENGLISH is just garbage.

Please kids, get your facts straight.

PS: I am VERY thankful for everything ANet has done in game. This is by far the best game I have ever played. The Community Relations department could use another reworking, however. I propose for Gaile Gray to come back.

Supervillain · Nov 13, 2008, 05:44 PM // 17:44

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Originally Posted by Star Gazer

Reading Comprehension 101. Please take before spouting crap out of your mouth.

When did I say that it was ok to harrass ANYONE, regardless of who they are? I never said that. Those kids who do that need to take Maturity 101 (with a co-requisite in Reading Comprehension 101) and grow the hell up.

My post was about how Regina had to come out and say that it actually happened. The people who were there saw that. The people who were there are used to it. But for her to come out and say GERMAN + FRENCH > ENGLISH is just garbage.

Please kids, get your facts straight.

PS: I am VERY thankful for everything ANet has done in game. This is by far the best game I have ever played. The Community Relations department could use another reworking, however. I propose for Gaile Gray to come back.

I LOVE how you moan that Regina treats people like "they are in 3rd grade" but then call people kids

. Way to go!

"PROTIP: dont talk to players as if they are in the 3rd grade."

Avarre · Nov 13, 2008, 06:00 PM // 18:00

What you people obviously seem to not grasp is Regina is a professional, whereas Star Gazer is intentionally being condescending because of how thick some people are.

RotteN · Nov 13, 2008, 06:18 PM // 18:18

The comment about english vs spanish/german players made me smile.

Making just a comment as PR person is just stupid. Yeah, i'm realy sorry i called Regina stupid, but honestly, it best describes how i feel about it. I would've expected a proffessional spokesperson to chose her words better.

MikeThePsycho · Nov 13, 2008, 06:34 PM // 18:34

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My post was about how Regina had to come out and say that it actually happened. The people who were there saw that. The people who were there are used to it. But for her to come out and say GERMAN + FRENCH > ENGLISH is just garbage.

Ugh, Regina never said French+German > English. She simply stated fact: French and German speaking people were behaving much better than English speaking players. Though she is being a bit captain obvious, since English speakers (read: Americans) are always way too rude and obnoxious in GW at any event. But even so, there was nothing incorrect about what she said.

Hell, the very fact Regina always says what she has to say makes her my hero and favorite Anet employee. Fail less and don't be so sensitive please.

Vaal 84 · Nov 13, 2008, 06:37 PM // 18:37

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Originally Posted by Abedeus

Whining changes the world. Praising doesn't.

QFT... unfortunately

Phaern Majes · Nov 13, 2008, 06:40 PM // 18:40

If you act like 3 y/o's then you deserve to be treated like 3 y/o's... welcome to mob mentality.

beserk · Nov 13, 2008, 07:08 PM // 19:08

WOOOOOOOOOOOO, new ways to get SS/LB!! sick of that damn wurm run.

Konig Des Todes · Nov 13, 2008, 07:13 PM // 19:13

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Originally Posted by Star Gazer

Reading Comprehension 101. Please take before spouting crap out of your mouth.

When did I say that it was ok to harrass ANYONE, regardless of who they are? I never said that. Those kids who do that need to take Maturity 101 (with a co-requisite in Reading Comprehension 101) and grow the hell up.

My post was about how Regina had to come out and say that it actually happened. The people who were there saw that. The people who were there are used to it. But for her to come out and say GERMAN + FRENCH > ENGLISH is just garbage.

Please kids, get your facts straight.

PS: I am VERY thankful for everything ANet has done in game. This is by far the best game I have ever played. The Community Relations department could use another reworking, however. I propose for Gaile Gray to come back.

Stop being a hypocrite please. You said you're not one of those who she mentioned being rude, but yet you are being very rude, and trolling, on here. I'm sure that if you were actually there, you'd be part of the group that was rude.

Sure, she could have been nicer about it, like Gaile would have been, but really I think that it's better to give the rude players a slap in the face every now and then (I personally would have suggested a temp ban to them for "insulting ANet - don't like the company don't play the game." Of course, I'm not a person who really cares about profits, give me enough to live and I'm good.)

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Originally Posted by MikeThePsycho

Ugh, Regina never said French+German > English. She simply stated fact: French and German speaking people were behaving much better than English speaking players. Though she is being a bit captain obvious, since English speakers (read: Americans) are always way too rude and obnoxious in GW at any event. But even so, there was nothing incorrect about what she said.

Hell, the very fact Regina always says what she has to say makes her my hero and favorite Anet employee. Fail less and don't be so sensitive please.

Thank you for pointing out the French part.

Also, you insult me with narrowing the rude "English speakers" down to just Americans. There are more English speakers then just England and America you know, try a majority of the world. In this case, it would be just about anyone who didn't speak German or Spanish better then English were a part of the English community here.

Please don't simplify a rude part to just Americans - sure there are a lot of rude Americans out there (I can be one at times even, I admit it), but there are more rude people then just Americans. If this was not your intent with the (read: Americans), I apologize, but it sounded a lot like that.

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Originally Posted by Dogmire

I think it’s ANET’s fault for not hiring enough people to do what needs to be done.

Basically, you are saying: "It's ANet's fault for having Guild Wars a no monthly fee game." Because with a monthly fee for three years from about 6 million accounts, would mean much more money, which would mean being able to hire more people, which means GW2 coming faster, and more content in GW1.

For the benefit of paying no pay to play fee, I think a slower release date for GW2 and less content in GW1 is worth it, although I can say a better scheme of releases for the Guild Wars franchise.

MikeThePsycho · Nov 13, 2008, 07:47 PM // 19:47

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Please don't simplify a rude part to just Americans - sure there are a lot of rude Americans out there (I can be one at times even, I admit it), but there are more rude people then just Americans. If this was not your intent with the (read: Americans), I apologize, but it sounded a lot like that.

Um, lol?
Of the English speaking population on Guild Wars, by and far the vast majority are Americans and British, maybe a discernible amount of Canadians. While I am American, and I hate stereotyping, even I can see the blatantly obvious. Any major event, the vast majority of rude crap going on is coming from, guess what? Americans. Let me give you an example.

Remember back when they changed the district system to where North America could visit Europe and vice versa without having to modify your account? I was on when that happened. And of course, it was all new and shiny, so you saw a bunch of people of each territory go to the other.

Well, I happened to be in Lions Arch the first hour for trading, and I noticed two things. First off, I cannot recall any rude thing a European said, of any language. They were nice, cordial, and all smiles. Americans on the other hand, were often typing in AOL-speak, often in caps, very disparaging things, profanities, statements like "GFTO Euro Trash" and such, and other things I won't post because of this forum's annoying Go Red ENgine censoring system.

So I head to Europe district to say hello. Once again, most of the people in the Euro English district were nice. The Americans, were speaking of how this is the first step of America's conquest of Europe, among other things. There were a few Brits and others getting ugly at this point, but it pretty much all backlashing against the Americans who suddenly filled their districts and starting non-stop BS.

So When I say something that sounds like a stereotype or broad generalization, I say it from repeated first-hand experience, not from moronic preconceptions.

DarkNecrid · Nov 13, 2008, 07:47 PM // 19:47

btw they are adding Tolkano to the AB mode and probably all the modes, HUZZAH.